URGENT HELP NEEDED!! I AM IN BIG TROUBLE!!

[Shrikrishna]

 
PLEASE PEOPLE HELP ME HERE, I AM IN URGENT NEED OF HELP..... ok let me gimme my short intro... I am a 20yrs old guy... my parents got separated from each other when i was just 10yrs old... from then onwards i live with my mother.... i have no contact with him since then but my parents have are not divorced... now the real problem starts here.. my father is into black magic for over 10 yrs now... he is cursing us our whole family now for more than 10years..... i have lost hope in life... we tried our best to sort out this problem but nothing is helping us... he has carried out all kinds of black magic upon us but don't know how we have survived till date.... it looks like a miracle to us.... we are very much emotionally disturbed....now i feel me and my family's only chance to get out of this is Astral Projection... do u think it is advisable for me to learn this astral projection in this type of situation?? also till date i had many out of body experiences ... not to mention that once i saw my father in graveyard at around 3.00am with another person doing nasty things targeting us.... so my question to u is should i go for astral projection? will i have any problem there , because i have read many books on astral projection and i am scared that because of my vibrations i many end up in lower planes, this is what is scaring me from trying to do it.... so people please help me, please serious genuine replies only.... sorry for a long post .... Thank you.

[Tiny]

aw i wish i could help. I'm going on a retreat the next couple of days (starting today) to refine my astral techniques and stuff, maybe I can help then.

Remember, in times of peril, love energy is strongest, it'll make you invincible spiritually.

I'll send you strenghtening energy in the meantime.


kind regards,

Paul

[Shrikrishna]

thats sweet of you Tiny! but please help me answer my question should i go for astral projection or not??

[Xanth]

PLEASE PEOPLE HELP ME HERE, I AM IN URGENT NEED OF HELP..... ok let me gimme my short intro... I am a 20yrs old guy... my parents got separated from each other when i was just 10yrs old... from then onwards i live with my mother.... i have no contact with him since then but my parents have are not divorced... now the real problem starts here.. my father is into black magic for over 10 yrs now... he is cursing us our whole family now for more than 10years..... i have lost hope in life... we tried our best to sort out this problem but nothing is helping us... he has carried out all kinds of black magic upon us but don't know how we have survived till date.... it looks like a miracle to us.... we are very much emotionally disturbed....now i feel me and my family's only chance to get out of this is Astral Projection... do u think it is advisable for me to learn this astral projection in this type of situation?? also till date i had many out of body experiences ... not to mention that once i saw my father in graveyard at around 3.00am with another person doing nasty things targeting us.... so my question to u is should i go for astral projection? will i have any problem there , because i have read many books on astral projection and i am scared that because of my vibrations i many end up in lower planes, this is what is scaring me from trying to do it.... so people please help me, please serious genuine replies only.... sorry for a long post .... Thank you.

Hi Shrikrishna!

Welcome to the Astral Pulse.

The first thing to realize is the section of your post that I bolded and underlined.  It's probably the most relevant and important towards your own happiness.  Realize that YOU control your own destiny and nobody else has that power.  You say that "YOU" have lost hope... I don't think this really has anything to do with anything anyone is doing "to you".  Stuff like "Black magic" (or whatever you want to call it) can only affect you if you give it the power to do so.

Choose to have hope.
Choose to believe.
Choose to be happy.

In my opinion, that's the cure. 

I wish you all the good luck in the world.

[NoY]

I have entity's using black magic against me all the time
They do only really have power if you let them

I think astral projection for you would be a good thing.it would show you what you was capable of and also reduce much of your fears

try this method for removing any negative links you have with your father or anyone else
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/help_for_beginers-t32612.0.html

Good Luck
:NoY:

[Shrikrishna]

thanks a lot everybody .... but still i am expecting more replies to this post ....

[+Explorer+]

Shrikrishna, the only way to solve this problem is to dissolve your fear. Always remember that you have control over your own reality. When you dissolve your fear, you will be able to astral project much easier and face your fear of "black magic". If you let your fear control you, then your subconscious will associate this with "black magic".

I advise you get rid of any fear that you may have of black magic. You can face all of your fears through astral projection if you are able to achieve it.

Remember, You always have control over your destiny,

+Explorer+

[CFTraveler]

PLEASE PEOPLE HELP ME HERE, I AM IN URGENT NEED OF HELP.....

Hi Shri Krishna.  I have some questions.

ok let me gimme my short intro... I am a 20yrs old guy... my parents got separated from each other when i was just 10yrs old... from then onwards i live with my mother.... i have no contact with him since then but my parents have are not divorced... now the real problem starts here.. my father is into black magic for over 10 yrs now... he is cursing us our whole family now for more than 10years.....

Where did you get this information?  How do you know that he is cursing your family, and how do you know this is working?

we tried our best to sort out this problem but nothing is helping us... he has carried out all kinds of black magic upon us but don't know how we have survived till date.... it looks like a miracle to us.... we are very much emotionally disturbed....now i feel me and my family's only chance to get out of this is Astral Projection...

Why do you think Astral Projection is going to help with a curse?  What is the mechanism of this curse?

do u think it is advisable for me to learn this astral projection in this type of situation?? also till date i had many out of body experiences ..

If you are a spontaneous projector, then I do think it's advisable to learn to control your experiences.  However, if you are consumed by fear, you may project your fears into the experience.  But then again, I suspect you are already doing this, so you may have (no, you will have) to learn to separate your projected fears from the real fears.  The fact that the only damage done has been to you so far is emotional, speaks volumes.

not to mention that once i saw my father in graveyard at around 3.00am with another person doing nasty things targeting us....

Why were you in a graveyard at 3am, or did this happen in a dream?

so my question to u is should i go for astral projection? will i have any problem there , because i have read many books on astral projection and i am scared that because of my vibrations i many end up in lower planes,

Ok, I will say something completely controversial, that will bring much argument into this thread- but I suspect your vibration is not going to send you to any lower planes, but your fear will create scenarios that are designed to terrify you and make you understand that you cannot be harmed.  You will continue to go through these until this fact comes home to your mind- that you cannot be harmed physically, and the mental damage you are suffering is due to your fear and belief.

this is what is scaring me from trying to do it.... so people please help me, please serious genuine replies only.... sorry for a long post .... Thank you.

There are various techniques on learning projection- but in your case I think you need mental discipline and meditation, and if you have a religious persuasion call on the God of your understanding, so that you overcome this fear, and start to be proactive about your situation.

I hope this helped.
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[Shrikrishna]

thanks for concern CFTraveler and +Explorer+ .... yes we have seen and experienced the effects of black magic to a very large extent... my father himself cursed me so that that i become mad be get admitted to a mental hospital... we met many spiritual people , many curse removers may be which you people call them as witches they all tried their best but all failed.... after removing the curses and hexes and other black magic things we used to feel better for some days but we were back at the same old story.... there are some things i have seen in my life for which i have no words to explain , i believe even science cannot explain those things and trust even you won't believe(no offence please)...
as i said earlier i saw him in graveyard but i forgot to mention that it was in a dream but actually i feel it was my projection because i felt a falling down from e big height sensation , i usually project at night during sleep , sometimes also during afternoon night... just two dayz back i had a nightmare... In the dream the ghost was holding my left hand tightly was unwilling to leave me... that scared the **** out of me... i screamed a lot but was unable to get out of the dream state, this screaming was heard by my mother too... she tried to wake me up

but was unable to do so.... the witch we had consulted was telling us that our father has put up the soul of a dead pregnant woman after us to cause accidents to us and other physical loss.... my sister who is married and is residing in US is experiencing the same thing .... she met with two accidents first a major one and then a minor one... mostly at night i have many spontaneous projections ,,, i also see myself visiting a snake temple again and again and also see many snakes in pond... too many not just one...they don't bite me but they are just there... i also see many people visiting that temple .... i talked about it to many people but they tell us nothing to worry about it since they don't bite but some said that its the created of my father,, my mother knew all my father's wrong doing even before i was born, that he was into islamic black magic.... still today he has been ... by the way we are hindu by religion and a bramhin by caste..... i am very sorry if i am hurting anybody's religious sentiments but friends please don't get me wrong.. this is the truth what i am telling you..... so my request to CFTraveler is that when you project yourself do see my current condition and the pain we are going through if its possible for you .... sorry again for a long post ... thanks again for those points u mentioned

[CFTraveler]

I am trying to understand some of the things you are talking about, and I still don't understand.

How do you know your father cursed you and the rest of the family?

And why would he do this?  What is his purpose, what would he gain if something bad happened to you or your sister?

[Shrikrishna]

I am trying to understand some of the things you are talking about, and I still don't understand.

How do you know your father cursed you and the rest of the family?

And why would he do this?  What is his purpose, what would he gain if something bad happened to you or your sister?

dude, this is long story short what i had told you....we stay in house which belongs to him and i mean that its registered in his name.. we
don't have any other house to live in .... he wants to stay with us to teach us a lesson it seems.... in 1983 year he took the power of attorney from my mother  of which my mother was not aware of then... ( in India its a rule that when a power of attorney is given to another person, then that another person has complete control over the belongings of the other person from whom it is taken) since then about 10 years ago he left our house with all the money which he had and he could have since then our sister looks after us.... then he started spreading grapevine that it was done by us purposely for the money thing.... again i must tell you that before all this happened we were Millionaires ...we did a project in Real Estate which was very much liked by the Indian Institute of Architecture (IIA) and we also received award for that... in our locality people fear him, they say his mind works like that of a small child.. always in a mood to fight with everyone... he has lots of extra marital affairs... his name is VISHNUDAS... many days earlier he used to sleep at his shop which is near to our home... then used to wake up at around 2.30am with something in his hand which he used to bury in the ground near our house...just outside our compound gate... all these 10 years we had lots of quarrels and fights in our house.... whenever we were thinking of doing any work or day today activities itself were taking lots of time.... he also got the black magic stuff reach my stomach due to which i started to grow thin and for sometime my mind stopped working but then it was removed and i am back to normal now.....he has also written letters stating clearly that he has killed so and so people from black magic from our own colony/society!!! we still have those letters... he has spread the news everywhere that today or tomorrow we will come to him begging for money and asking for forgiveness.... i want to know as to where he goes and does all this black magic things .... to me AP seems to be the only answer to stop him... by the way the most shocking thing to tell you is that he is 67yrs old!! but i am still confused whether to go AP or not because he has cursed us with so much of black magic that when as soon as i project i am not sure which ghosts or whose dead soul i am going to meet up there.... this is what is stopping me from doing  it. Won't the black magic have any effect on me in the astral plane? obviously it is going to have a bad effect, right??

[cyborg]

I cannot help you much. But I will suggest you do yoga and meditation.

While black magic may exist, but like other members here have already said, the more you fear - the more the effect of these black magic may be.
Also, you said that you already had OBEs, and if you were not harmed during those OBEs, then why are you so scared now?

BTW, where in India are you from?

[Xanth]

dude, this is long story short what i had told you....we stay in house which belongs to him and i mean that its registered in his name.. we
don't have any other house to live in .... he wants to stay with us to teach us a lesson it seems.... in 1983 year he took the power of attorney from my mother  of which my mother was not aware of then... ( in India its a rule that when a power of attorney is given to another person, then that another person has complete control over the belongings of the other person from whom it is taken) since then about 10 years ago he left our house with all the money which he had and he could have since then our sister looks after us.... then he started spreading grapevine that it was done by us purposely for the money thing.... again i must tell you that before all this happened we were Millionaires ...we did a project in Real Estate which was very much liked by the Indian Institute of Architecture (IIA) and we also received award for that... in our locality people fear him, they say his mind works like that of a small child.. always in a mood to fight with everyone... he has lots of extra marital affairs... his name is VISHNUDAS... many days earlier he used to sleep at his shop which is near to our home... then used to wake up at around 2.30am with something in his hand which he used to bury in the ground near our house...just outside our compound gate... all these 10 years we had lots of quarrels and fights in our house.... whenever we were thinking of doing any work or day today activities itself were taking lots of time.... he also got the black magic stuff reach my stomach due to which i started to grow thin and for sometime my mind stopped working but then it was removed and i am back to normal now.....he has also written letters stating clearly that he has killed so and so people from black magic from our own colony/society!!! we still have those letters... he has spread the news everywhere that today or tomorrow we will come to him begging for money and asking for forgiveness.... i want to know as to where he goes and does all this black magic things .... to me AP seems to be the only answer to stop him... by the way the most shocking thing to tell you is that he is 67yrs old!! but i am still confused whether to go AP or not because he has cursed us with so much of black magic that when as soon as i project i am not sure which ghosts or whose dead soul i am going to meet up there.... this is what is stopping me from doing  it. Won't the black magic have any effect on me in the astral plane? obviously it is going to have a bad effect, right??

Hi Shrikrishna,

It's really unfortunate what has befallen you and your family.  I can tell you one thing though, none of which has happened to you is due to black magic.  This man has just really got into your head in a very psychological way... that needs to be cut off.  I don't believe the Astral Plane isn't going to help you here.

Basically, he's just being a complete jerk... but from what you say, he's doing it well within the limits of the law.  Unfortunately.
You'll need to find a more "physical reality" solution to your problems. 

I'm sorry we couldn't help you more.

[Shrikrishna]

I cannot help you much. But I will suggest you do yoga and meditation.

While black magic may exist, but like other members here have already said, the more you fear - the more the effect of these black magic may be.
Also, you said that you already had OBEs, and if you were not harmed during those OBEs, then why are you so scared now?

BTW, where in India are you from?

Hey Cyborg, I am from Goa, INDIA... but may i know the reason why you are asking??

[Shrikrishna]

Hi Shrikrishna,

It's really unfortunate what has befallen you and your family.  I can tell you one thing though, none of which has happened to you is due to black magic.  This man has just really got into your head in a very psychological way... that needs to be cut off.  I don't believe the Astral Plane isn't going to help you here.

Basically, he's just being a complete jerk... but from what you say, he's doing it well within the limits of the law.  Unfortunately.
You'll need to find a more "physical reality" solution to your problems. 

I'm sorry we couldn't help you more.

Yes i agree to what you have said in the second paragraph... but i don't agree with what you have said in the first one... dude black magic does exist and when its cast upon you , your whole life is turned upside down.... i have seen and heard the same thing from many people...

[Xanth]

Yes i agree to what you have said in the second paragraph... but i don't agree with what you have said in the first one... dude black magic does exist and when its cast upon you , your whole life is turned upside down.... i have seen and heard the same thing from many people...

Well, then I'm sorry... but, at the very least, I can't help you as long as you retain that particular belief.  My apologies.

As several people have already said to you in this thread... you control your own destiny.  Not someone else.
However, you have to choose to accept this as your reality.  What you're doing now is simply giving in.

[+Explorer+]

I suggest you read this book right here: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Psychic-Self-Defense-Handbook/dp/1571746390/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1293936043&sr=8-9

The above link is the book that will be released on Feb 1st
An older edition is: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Psychic-Self-Defense-Understanding-Influences/dp/1571742212/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=IVHSQ1WWPJD1Z&colid=2APRMECRK9J88

[cyborg]

Hey Cyborg, I am from Goa, INDIA... but may i know the reason why you are asking??

I was curious.
Anyway, I hope you are able to solve the problems.

[Naykid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

[beavis]

Shrikrishna, the best way to solve your paranormal problems would be to keep your mind centered and not resist those things you're afraid of. I'm not the first to say something like that, but I don't think that's practical for you since its been happening for so long. So instead, I'll tell you something I just thought of now designed to cancel out such things. You say the guy is really good at his "black magic". I don't like the word "magic" because it means theres no way to explain how it works, but I know what you're talking about. If you try to do the same thing back to him, you'll just make it worse, and I doubt you would expect it to have much effect since he's had so much practice at it. Instead, try dealing with the problem at its weakest point, which is: Why do the effects of his "black magic" go toward you instead of somewhere else or lots of places at once spread out and ineffective? Its targeted at a specific thing. If you don't look like that thing any more, it would go somewhere else, regardless of how powerful it is. So this is what I recommend (and I've never done this before, but I know enough paranormal things in general to predict what it would do)... Create a voodoo doll of yourself, which is simply a mental association of the doll and yourself that is strengthened over time. Make the connection really powerful until you get the feeling that if something happened to the doll it may be more likely to happen to you a little. Then burn and destroy the voodoo doll of yourself. Try to make all the bad things coming from that guy do their stuff to the doll of yourself. From what I understand about paranormal stuff, I'd expect that to reverse that guy's view of you and whatever he is doing. The bigger they come, the harder they fall. At least in theory.

But the best thing for you to do is stop resisting what he's mentally doing and let it pass through you without affecting you.

[Naykid]

I just thought Don't worry, be happy was a cool route to go. 

Does it feel like old times, Beavis? 

[Naykid]

Great!  Now I feel bad.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2e4NlnLr28

[beavis]

Naykid, yours is not a bad solution, but I don't think Shrikrishna has the state of mind that could do that right now, so I proposed something in the opposite direction and a double negation (on self instead of the attacker) to have the same effect as what you proposed.

[Naykid]

Naykid, yours is not a bad solution, but I don't think Shrikrishna has the state of mind that could do that right now, so I proposed something in the opposite direction and a double negation (on self instead of the attacker) to have the same effect as what you proposed.

Huh?....

[beavis]

The purpose of my proposal was to cause Shrikrishna to have a centered mind. Shrikrishna is afraid of the "black magic". By doing some on self, the fear is cancelled out. There are paranormal effects of it too, but they should follow that same pattern. Its the paranormal version of reverse psychology.