URGENT HELP NEEDED!! I AM IN BIG TROUBLE!!

[Naykid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKGAdE6wwTM

I know it seems repetitive, just go with it. 

Are YOU doing well?...

[Naykid]

The purpose of my proposal was to cause Shrikrishna to have a centered mind. Shrikrishna is afraid of the "black magic". By doing some on self, the fear is cancelled out. There are paranormal effects of it too, but they should follow that same pattern. Its the paranormal version of reverse psychology.

I'm doing well, and you? 

Shirkishna is going to feel whatever he feels...be it "black magic" or not. 

Can you expound on the 'paranormal version of reverse psychology'?

It's so good to SEE YOU BEAVIS..it's been.....what?   Four or so years? 

[beavis]

I think I've confused people in this thread enough already.

[Naykid]

No, don't run away.  I was thinking you were going to acknowledge my existence.  Tis all.

I was just having a go at ya.  Gov'ner, 

[testing]

PLEASE PEOPLE HELP ME HERE, I AM IN URGENT NEED OF HELP..... ok let me gimme my short intro... I am a 20yrs old guy... my parents got separated from each other when i was just 10yrs old... from then onwards i live with my mother.... i have no contact with him since then but my parents have are not divorced... now the real problem starts here.. my father is into black magic for over 10 yrs now... he is cursing us our whole family now for more than 10years..... i have lost hope in life... we tried our best to sort out this problem but nothing is helping us... he has carried out all kinds of black magic upon us but don't know how we have survived till date.... it looks like a miracle to us.... we are very much emotionally disturbed....now i feel me and my family's only chance to get out of this is Astral Projection... do u think it is advisable for me to learn this astral projection in this type of situation?? also till date i had many out of body experiences ... not to mention that once i saw my father in graveyard at around 3.00am with another person doing nasty things targeting us.... so my question to u is should i go for astral projection? will i have any problem there , because i have read many books on astral projection and i am scared that because of my vibrations i many end up in lower planes, this is what is scaring me from trying to do it.... so people please help me, please serious genuine replies only.... sorry for a long post .... Thank you.

Hi

I think you shouldn't do it until you can stop being afraid.. You being so afraid will undoubtedly cause you to have a negative experience. Since you believe so much in this dark magick it will only you make it even more real. You will start to curse yourself with your own beliefs. Do whatever you can to help yourself believe that you are stronger than this darkness. Believe that Vishnu will protect you & your family & make it so.

[Pauli2]

Shrikrishna,

1. When you feel anything bad and suspect a self-conscious entity, say something like: "Go away! I don't want you here and you don't belong here. Go now! You, who causes me trouble, go away!"

2. When you rest and think of your father, send your feelings of love to his heart, that will stop most of the bad effects.

3. If you OBE, ask for a guide, and if the guide shows up, ask what to do.

[CFTraveler]

Those are good ideas.
Shri Krishna, I do think that there is black magic and that there can be effects from it, but when I read your initial description of events, I do think Xanth is correct in saying that your problem is that your father is using psychological intimidation on you- and it is working.
One of the most powerful countermeasures in any psychic self defense is the knowledge- absolute knowledge that you really can't be harmed physically.  Anything else is cream at the top of the pie, so to speak.
If you approach this with fear, you need to convince yourself that you are not in physical danger.

[Shrikrishna]

Well, then I'm sorry... but, at the very least, I can't help you as long as you retain that particular belief.  My apologies.

As several people have already said to you in this thread... you control your own destiny.  Not someone else.
However, you have to choose to accept this as your reality.  What you're doing now is simply giving in.

hm...... its ok Xanth,, no problem .... i agree to what you say...

[Shrikrishna]

I suggest you read this book right here: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Psychic-Self-Defense-Handbook/dp/1571746390/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1293936043&sr=8-9

The above link is the book that will be released on Feb 1st
An older edition is: http://www.amazon.com/Practical-Psychic-Self-Defense-Understanding-Influences/dp/1571742212/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=IVHSQ1WWPJD1Z&colid=2APRMECRK9J88

thanks dude i am looking forward to buy that book 

[Shrikrishna]

Shrikrishna, the best way to solve your paranormal problems would be to keep your mind centered and not resist those things you're afraid of. I'm not the first to say something like that, but I don't think that's practical for you since its been happening for so long. So instead, I'll tell you something I just thought of now designed to cancel out such things. You say the guy is really good at his "black magic". I don't like the word "magic" because it means theres no way to explain how it works, but I know what you're talking about. If you try to do the same thing back to him, you'll just make it worse, and I doubt you would expect it to have much effect since he's had so much practice at it. Instead, try dealing with the problem at its weakest point, which is: Why do the effects of his "black magic" go toward you instead of somewhere else or lots of places at once spread out and ineffective? Its targeted at a specific thing. If you don't look like that thing any more, it would go somewhere else, regardless of how powerful it is. So this is what I recommend (and I've never done this before, but I know enough paranormal things in general to predict what it would do)... Create a voodoo doll of yourself, which is simply a mental association of the doll and yourself that is strengthened over time. Make the connection really powerful until you get the feeling that if something happened to the doll it may be more likely to happen to you a little. Then burn and destroy the voodoo doll of yourself. Try to make all the bad things coming from that guy do their stuff to the doll of yourself. From what I understand about paranormal stuff, I'd expect that to reverse that guy's view of you and whatever he is doing. The bigger they come, the harder they fall. At least in theory.

But the best thing for you to do is stop resisting what he's mentally doing and let it pass through you without affecting you.

hm...... ok thats a very good idea... i wonder why i didn't thought about it earlier  anyways thanks a lot

[Shrikrishna]

The purpose of my proposal was to cause Shrikrishna to have a centered mind. Shrikrishna is afraid of the "black magic". By doing some on self, the fear is cancelled out. There are paranormal effects of it too, but they should follow that same pattern. Its the paranormal version of reverse psychology.

i got what you said but i think its going to take sometime now ... may be a month or so.... so lets see how it goes for me.. but according to what you said earlier if there is a deadly spell is placed and if its not removed in time then i fear that it will affect both of us -the voodoo doll and me  is it? won't that create more problems? or is it that what i am thinking is wrong practically?

[Shrikrishna]

I think I've confused people in this thread enough already.

Nope... you haven't 

[Shrikrishna]

Hi

Believe that Vishnu will protect you & your family & make it so.

are you talking about my father or the Lord Vishnu?? 

[Shrikrishna]

Shrikrishna,

1. When you feel anything bad and suspect a self-conscious entity, say something like: "Go away! I don't want you here and you don't belong here. Go now! You, who causes me trouble, go away!"

2. When you rest and think of your father, send your feelings of love to his heart, that will stop most of the bad effects.

3. If you OBE, ask for a guide, and if the guide shows up, ask what to do.

i think thats the best thing i can do right now 

[Shrikrishna]

Those are good ideas.
Shri Krishna, I do think that there is black magic and that there can be effects from it, but when I read your initial description of events, I do think Xanth is correct in saying that your problem is that your father is using psychological intimidation on you- and it is working.
One of the most powerful countermeasures in any psychic self defense is the knowledge- absolute knowledge that you really can't be harmed physically.  Anything else is cream at the top of the pie, so to speak.
If you approach this with fear, you need to convince yourself that you are not in physical danger.

dude, trust me black magic exists in this world, if u deny it then the effects can be less but that doesn't mean that its going to stop working completely   

[Shrikrishna]

I wonder what must happening to those black/dark magic spell casters/practitioners .... in the meantime won't they create bad karma for themselves just because they are getting paid for ruining other people's life.? aren't they brought to justice by GOD?? 

[Xanth]

I wonder what must happening to those black/dark magic spell casters/practitioners .... in the meantime won't they create bad karma for themselves just because they are getting paid for ruining other people's life.? aren't they brought to justice by GOD?? 

I don't believe in karma or god...
So, per my beliefs... no.

They'll judge themselves when the time comes though.  Whether that act of self-judging means anything, we'll never really know. 

[testing]

are you talking about my father or the Lord Vishnu?? 

Lord Vishnu


Aren't you Hindu? What gods do you believe in.

[Shrikrishna]

Lord Vishnu


Aren't you Hindu? What gods do you believe in.

yup i am hindu, but for the tantras and mantras i mean for the dark/black magic subject only one god has the absolute power although others do have if you know and that he is Lord Shankar! but we do worship Lord Vishnu 

[Shrikrishna]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2e4NlnLr28

nice songs thanks for sharing   

[testing]

yup i am hindu, but for the tantras and mantras i mean for the dark/black magic subject only one god has the absolute power although others do have if you know and that he is Lord Shankar! but we do worship Lord Vishnu 

Ok, why don't you believe that Lord Shankar can protect you?

Do you practice magick yourself?

[Naykid]

I don't believe in karma or god...
So, per my beliefs... no.

They'll judge themselves when the time comes though.  Whether that act of self-judging means anything, we'll never really know. 

If there is no karma belief, than why bother with the self judgment? And why bother coming to this plane to begin with?  Do you believe in learning lessons, or are we here just to satisfy our own ego? 

[Xanth]

If there is no karma belief, than why bother with the self judgment?

I'm referring to someone else who might believe in such.

Do you believe in learning lessons, or are we here just to satisfy our own ego?

I believe we're here to simply experience in a different way than our natural state of being is.

I see it like this... as a spiritual being who isn't afflicted with any of the "physical reality" limitations that we have to put up with (survival, hunger, emotions, etc) how do you experience things?  How does someone explain what "hunger" is to an immortal spiritual soul?  The questions that arise out of answering that will feed a hundred more questions... while it's just easier to experience it. 

It's probably very much along the lines of why we tell people who come here asking for proof of astral projection that they should learn to experience it for themselves... cause explaining it just takes too long. 

Here's a thought...
Perhaps, as immortal spiritual beings... we're just really REALLY bored and live out these lives as a way to entertain ourselves.  LoL

[Shrikrishna]

Ok, why don't you believe that Lord Shankar can protect you?

yes we do believe in him and probably because of  that we still have survived  

[testing]

And do you practice magick yourself?