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Aileron

(always was weird)

Read the same thing, and it doesnt surprise me. I think its beginning to hit mister sticks to his guns (monkey butt son of a....)that there are certain things that are eternal in any social infrastructure, such as, opposition to majority opionion. There will always be someone to oppose the other. ALways....unless there is hands down proof for everyone, every religion and culture, that a certain decree of united belief has potential....and personally, I think that will only come with a messiah.


Also, why is oazaki leaving?

He is like one of the more integral issues that continually comes up in these forums. Keeps the playing field full if you know what I mean.
St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"

Quiet Storm

Yea Bush and the repiblicans in the convention are starting using "double-speek". Bush and those republicans are good liars and are starting to let the truth out while still hiding their motives because they are speaking about the memes (look up what memes are) that they present to follow.

Both candidates Bush and Kerry are having 'fun' playing polarizing games with these 'sheeple'. (tee hee) It is so obvious. I can see it in their demeanor. They have been so contradictive in their statements.

Bush said: The war on terrorism is a quote "catastrophic success". He says: "We are winning the war on terrorism, and we are going to win the war on terrorism". And now he is saying that it is "unwinnable". he said all those lies within a 72 hour period!

This whole republican convention is one literal JOKE of democracy!

All the Kerry lies: How many have been revealed 15? 20?

Bush and Kerry are 2 sides of the same coin. They are both in the Skull and Bones society and they know (or at least I'd like to think they know)  exactly what they are doing.

no_leaf_clover

quote:
Bush and Kerry are 2 sides of the same coin.


I think thats true with a lot of the elite members of our society that belong to different parties. No matter which one gets elected the corruption isn't going to come to any end. If Nadar got in there things might not be so bad within the executive branch at least, but of course, as we all know (including Kerry and Bush).. that's not going to happen.
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

Jenadots

Oddly enough, I do find myself agreeing with Quiet Storm on this one...two rich guys from Yale.

I know it takes a lot of money to run for office, but it seems that people from more humble backgrounds get shut out of the opportunity even if they have the desire and the interest to.  

And I often wonder why even those in Congress who do come from more modest means seem to be so rich after they leave office.  Maybe its the speakers fees.  

Anyway, in the next election I would like to see some candidates that didn't inherit or marry great wealth but had to work like the rest of us.  Oh, I know John Edwards comes from humble beginnings, but class action lawyers are notorious for getting very rich and very quickly and seem to end up with most of the settlements.

I have to agree, it is getting pretty wierd out there.  Maybe it is just the full moon! [;)]

Aileron

Honestly, I personally dont think it matters anymore whether someone has made the money themselves(though they will have a better chance of controlling it and their background will be less hegemonous)or whether they inherited the wealth/power.

Its becoming somewhat clear that there are less and less of those in such a status actually using their finances for anything abridged of self-assurity(ie toys and the like), power(position), and renown.

Dont get me wrong, I do believe there are those very few who do do some good, but they are numbered.

I have gotten into a lengthy debate about whether we even exist in a heirarchal soceity, especially in the U.S.
That although there are a numerous amount of people attached to fame, the status of actual power and wealth are becoming a cliqued lot. Those few who have it, flaunt it with all the rest, even those who supposedly they oppose.

I have no doubt whether Bush or Kerry wins(Though within the shipwreck that is my heart, I know it to be Bush), it will ultimately be the mass majority who lose.....whoa, that sounds familiar.

"Whoever wins.....we lose."

Its time to tip this f**king pyramid over and climb atop the bodies of those who had dangled above us all!



If I wasnt so patient in my knowledge, with all the certainty of a being with passionate conviction, I know I would be leading a revolt right now in some way or another against the supposed democracy that has become a tyranny.


Then again, I think people here are with me when I say, if we can't beat em, we can watch em topple over after they self-destruct on their own.
St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"

Quiet Storm

Usually I don't watch TV but nowadays what's being shown is just getting really interesting. I was just watching the Conan O Brien show just now and he made jokes about the tyranny going on, the security, the protestors the political misspeech, and the biased-ness. The 'spin' they had on that show was incredibly surreal. This guy was speaking the truth but since it was a 'comedy show' the people just laughed and clapped about it but there still is that eery silence at the end of the joke and the vibe sometimes even the comment about the vibe that just makes the audience wonder "why are we laughing about this? something is wrong here.."

I saw a similar thing on the Jay Leno show. And then the RNC. The audience claps and cheers for things they can't even begin to think about.

The term "blanket creations" really comes in handy when describing that one thing that folks in these audiences are really hanging on to.

Adam

They all know something is not quite right underneath it all, don't they? They can feel the delusions and lies that have been passed off as reality and truth. But it seems like most of them are just afraid of breaking away from the herd mentality that keeps them under control, because it provides a blanket form of security (that damn blanket word again!).

Lately I've been feeling so amazingly angry (anger doesn't describe the intensity of it well enough!) at these controlling forces. I continue to get more and more disgusted at how overt their control is... but does the mass consciousness break away? No.

One thing I want to see more than anything else in this world, is their complete and utter annhilation. And I know that is just around the corner, thank god! [:(!] [;)]

Adam

So Quite Storm... when do YOU get this is all coming?

BirdManKalki

It should be noted that this reply was intended for the Awakening Thread, however this thread was locked. The reason why I post this message is that it is relevant to Oazaki's claims.

"Aileron said
I'd like to point out that any public psychological profiling done on someone tends to reinforce and encourage those habits of which you speak of".


I'm sorry if you considered the words an attempted psychological profile. The words spoken were the words of the Mind and therefore Truth,  

"Aileron said
I'm not telling anyone to not reply, I'm saying, if you are truly frustrated by this situation in which you believe that Oazaki needs to listen to you and come around, realizing that you are right, don't hold your breath."


We write to ask questions within the mind in order for all to learn. You are being deceived, I speak not because I wish to degrade Oazaki or because I want to convince him that I'm right but because he blasphemes, because of this I am obliged, just as you all are to defend the lord. Recently a new revelation has unveiled itself to me, a revelation that slightly changes the view that the message was rejected.  

The best way to learn is to ask for answers. Now not straying from the topic. Considering we have Some Oazaki believers here, this may seem like silly question. But to determine who is awake and who asleep we must ask the simple following question.

Lets see, could any of you tell me how it is that Jesus died for our sins? Think before you answer.

If nobody gives a foolproof logical answer that everybody can see the logic in, may I asks if it is acceptable to post another ancient forgotten take on this question?      

Matthew 13:13
"This is why I speak to them in parables: "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

Anyone figured out what a changeovers is?


BIRDMAN
" I say nothing and look at YOU"

Quiet Storm

quote:
So Quite Storm... when do YOU get this is all coming?


I'll say this: Those web bot predictions are close to the truth.

September will be a great month. [;)]

Adam

I bloody well hope so mate... it's been too long coming.

Got anything more specific than just 'September'? ...which can include feelings, premonitians, etc.

I am basing my timescale on an entirely internal perspective - ie. what's happening inside myself.

Quiet Storm

Well I think this week will definately a historic week for the republicans.[:D]

As for 'feelings' or experiences: I'd say September is going to be a really cool month for some.

Quiet Storm

REP. NAT. CONVENTION: WHAT THE WEB BOTS SAY:
If I'm not mistaken(!!?), web bots is what I would call "wisdom of the masses"... kind of a stock market where not one individual possess all the knowledge, but the amalgam of all the people brings the truth.JMHO

RNC Outlook: Health Issue & Confrontation

As the Republican National Convention gets underway today, we're sitting back with a different take on what will transpire this week, thanks to the web bots of www.halfpasthuman.com. We are specifically looking for a series of events including:

The "takeaways" that the bots suggest we'll have next week might include a widespread recognition that the RNC meeting will be highlighted with a revelation (or revealing act) "Indeed, a failure at multiple levels. As the data set indicates, (all/any)[movement] results in (bound/constrained/frustrated)[desires/goals/efforts]. This is apparently all due to a single instance of the widespread perception of [insincerity]. or [sincerity] that is (inconsistent)."

We'll also be on the lookout for some talk of disease at a high level "Rather what we have is a lexical structure with words such as [evil], [vile], [foul] and [stagnant] also contains some references to disease. In fact, enough such references to disease appear that the lexical aspect takes its name from that subset. However, this is apparently all about a single [prominent/powerful/public] person being (struck down) by [disease] within the framework of the convention itself. This [disease] subset is cross linked back to (no movement)[facilitates/improves] which suggests that the disease is not something that is treatable."

We'll also expect that there will be someone involved with the protests, who will arise out of the protester's efforts, perhaps who will be subject to obviously excessive force by authorities - perhaps standing up to authority after being injured ala Tiananmen Square - who will be thrust into the public consciousness: "Rather, there will arise an individual *most hints at this stage suggest a female, youngish - say 20's* who will become the 'poster child' of the (solidarity/cohesive) American resistance movement. The data would suggest some nasty moments for this individual, but in spite of suggestions of a (frail frame/waif-like appearance/vatta-body type), the flesh shall endure and the spirit will triumph in a totally (unexpected/unbidden/not sought) (rise) to [prominence/pinnacle]."

There's a lot more to it, of course, but to get it all, we recommend that you ante up the $30 and click over to http://www.halfpasthuman.com/HPHSUBSCRIPTION_INFO.htm for details. Our purpose in putting these few snips out is to place some predictions on the record well in advance of events.

We also note that Secretary of State Colin Powell is not planning to attend this year's event. While most commentary suggests something is akimbo within Republican ranks, what most observers won't tell you is that it has little to do with politics, but more likely everything to do with succession plans. The worry (although by the bots not justified) is that Powell should be well out of harms way in event of a WMD attack on the convention.

Then there's the RNC playing on the WTC tragedy for political ends: Rudi Giuliani will say:

"Winston Churchill saw the dangers of Hitler when his opponents and much of the press characterized him
as a war-mongering gadfly.

"Ronald Reagan saw and described the Soviet Union as 'the evil empire' when world opinion accepted it as inevitable and belittled Ronald Reagan's intelligence.

George W. Bush sees world terrorism for the evil that it is and he will remain consistent to the purpose of defeating it while working to make us ever safer at home."

What would surprise us least? We can already judge the flavor of the event by reading advance comments at http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040829/nysu027_1.html Because there will be lots of playing on images of the WTC disaster, one thought is that might backfire and may be part of what the bots pick up as "insincerity".

Our plot for a perfect run? A Tiananmen square kind of event, a top official revealing untreatable health problems, and a general "backfire" from what we're supposed to see as an emotional event.

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm

Quiet Storm

This was at surfingtheapocalypse:

the web-bot prediction came true!
I've been listening in to the live broadcasts from New York City. Two unrelated individuals, two separate reports, each phoned in to the broadcasters, who were then streaming this report to me.

Each of the two separate eye-witnesses reported the same, almost perfectly matching, descriptions of the following incident that took place there this evening....

'....a young woman, and a 5-year old child trying to perpendicularly cross one of the many streets of protest there, getting caught between a chanting group of demonstators and the onslaught of a group of attacking police officers. One policeman, reportedly, threw this woman backwards to the pavement where she lay for sometime assisted only by a demonstator, and as her 5-year old child wept aloud, police officers were screaming at the demonstrators, and also this child to, "Get Back!", "Get Back!" over and over again.'

Reportedly she had nothing to do with the demonstrations taking place, and she and her child were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time....

'Many minutes passed before a back-board and several people came to assist her, apparently strapping her onto it and evacuating her to a hospital.'

There were no further eye-witness reports regarding what had become of her child. It sounded horrifying to hear this but then, in addition to having heard this report coming from two separate individuals, I remembered the post made here at STA by, "victo18" today. You can link to it below. Here is a snip from it that may have indeed pertained to events which then followed the web bot's predictions.

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(snip)

We'll also expect that there will be someone involved with the protests, who will arise out of the protester's efforts, perhaps who will be subject to obviously excessive force by authorities - perhaps standing up to authority after being injured ala Tiananmen Square - who will be thrust into the public consciousness: "Rather, there will arise an individual *most hints at this stage suggest a female, youngish - say 20's* who will become the 'poster child' of the (solidarity/cohesive) American resistance movement. The data would suggest some nasty moments for this individual, but in spite of suggestions of a (frail frame/waif-like appearance/vatta-body type), the flesh shall endure and the spirit will triumph in a totally (unexpected/unbidden/not sought) (rise) to [prominence/pinnacle]."

(end snip)

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Fairly accurate and true to what actually took place later in the day don't you think. Perhaps, this woman will indeed become, along with her 5-year old the "poster children" of the American resistance movement as the web bot predicted. Time will tell.

You can still link to the live streaming audio from my post today entitled, "REPORTS OF POLICE ABUSING DEMONSTATORS - LISTEN LIVE"

the link for those reports and so you can listen to them:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2004/310804policeabuse.htm

Aileron

(rubs brow)
god its so easy to just mistake things people say for something else unintended.

First off, Birdman, I dont really want to get into this, especially on this topic within a thread that isnt conversing on said topic, so after I reply for no other real reason than my mannerisms require of me graceful verification of one who is speaking to someone, thats it, Im done talking about this.

quote:

"I'm sorry if you considered the words an attempted psychological profile. The words spoken were the words of the Mind and therefore Truth,"


good for you. obviously, still a profile. Nothing you can do about it, when you speak of someones mental and emotional status, you are profiling them whether you believe it or not. Dont really care.

quote:

""Aileron said
I'm not telling anyone to not reply, I'm saying, if you are truly frustrated by this situation in which you believe that Oazaki needs to listen to you and come around, realizing that you are right, don't hold your breath."

We write to ask questions within the mind in order for all to learn. You are being deceived, I speak not because I wish to degrade Oazaki or because I want to convince him that I'm right but because he blasphemes, because of this I am obliged, just as you all are to defend the lord. Recently a new revelation has unveiled itself to me, a revelation that slightly changes the view that the message was rejected."

Let me be clear on this. I was offering advice, to ANYONE who was getting frustrated. I was not speaking specifically to you.

You think me decieved?
Your opinion, dont care.

I am not a follower of Oazaki, nor do I side against him. Rather I hope I can offer friendly and sage advice administering tips towards those who may or may not be vulnerable toward the information he gives, and to offer a quietness for those whose minds are rattled by the sometimes delinquent behaviors he has since modified (I hope.)

Quote:

"The best way to learn is to ask for answers. Now not straying from the topic. Considering we have Some Oazaki believers here, this may seem like silly question. But to determine who is awake and who asleep we must ask the simple following question.

Lets see, could any of you tell me how it is that Jesus died for our sins? Think before you answer.

If nobody gives a foolproof logical answer that everybody can see the logic in, may I asks if it is acceptable to post another ancient forgotten take on this question?

Matthew 13:13
"This is why I speak to them in parables: "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand."

Anyone figured out what a changeovers is?"


Irrelevant.
You think that by anyone answering these questions, youll find out who is awake or not?
By citing bible passages, and yet asking as if you do not understand, how Jesus died for our sins.
Thats confusing and least of all relevant to gaining any understanding of someone else pertaining to whether they are "awake" or not. At least to me, but perhaps I am a fool.

As I said, you can reply all you want. Thats it for me though. Im done. The issue has been kicked around enough with no closure in sight for anyone but time itself.



St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"

Aileron

and just so ya know, anyone who saw fight club, knows what a change over is.
St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"

Palehorse

quote:
Lets see, could any of you tell me how it is that Jesus died for our sins? Think before you answer.


As a (decidedly unorthodox) Christian myself, I have been wrestling with this question for quite a while now.  The only solid conclusion I have reached thus far is that I reject the traditional idea of substitutionary atonement.

My current train of thought on the subject has to do with the literal definition of "sin" itself -- "to miss the mark (of God's intent)."  Simply put, man has consistently missed the mark of the divine ideal, in effect creating the "veil" between God and man.  By nailing (no pun intended) that mark perfectly throughout his life, Christ was able to rend the veil, reestablish the individual's ability to attain divine union freely without any intermediary, and provide a living example of how this can be done.  By "dying to self" and "putting on the new man in Christ," we can join with him in his life and death, so that we too can say in all truth "I and my Father are one."  In that sense, it can be said that Jesus died for the sins of mankind, but only so the Christ could rise, taking all of us with him. (John 12:32)

quote:
Matthew 13:13


This reminds me... the whole synchronicity thing with numbers seems to have started for me as well; I seem to be seeing 13's EVERYWHERE.  The other day especially sticks out; I noticed four together.  My first impulse was to add them up, which made 52... the number of weeks in a year.  If there's anything to this number stuff, and my first impulse about what they could mean is correct, then a year from 8/30 might be something to keep an eye on.  Also, in addition to the post I made about my experience on the "day out of time" before that last thread was locked... it recently struck me that there could be some heavy symbolism involved in my being literally shaken awake on the eve of the Mayan new year.
Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."
    --Gospel of Thomas, saying 10

Adam

quote:
Originally posted by Quiet Storm

REP. NAT. CONVENTION: WHAT THE WEB BOTS SAY:
If I'm not mistaken(!!?), web bots is what I would call "wisdom of the masses"... kind of a stock market where not one individual possess all the knowledge, but the amalgam of all the people brings the truth.JMHO

RNC Outlook: Health Issue & Confrontation

As the Republican National Convention gets underway today, we're sitting back with a different take on what will transpire this week, thanks to the web bots of www.halfpasthuman.com. We are specifically looking for a series of events including:

The "takeaways" that the bots suggest we'll have next week might include a widespread recognition that the RNC meeting will be highlighted with a revelation (or revealing act) "Indeed, a failure at multiple levels. As the data set indicates, (all/any)[movement] results in (bound/constrained/frustrated)[desires/goals/efforts]. This is apparently all due to a single instance of the widespread perception of [insincerity]. or [sincerity] that is (inconsistent)."

We'll also be on the lookout for some talk of disease at a high level "Rather what we have is a lexical structure with words such as [evil], [vile], [foul] and [stagnant] also contains some references to disease. In fact, enough such references to disease appear that the lexical aspect takes its name from that subset. However, this is apparently all about a single [prominent/powerful/public] person being (struck down) by [disease] within the framework of the convention itself. This [disease] subset is cross linked back to (no movement)[facilitates/improves] which suggests that the disease is not something that is treatable."

We'll also expect that there will be someone involved with the protests, who will arise out of the protester's efforts, perhaps who will be subject to obviously excessive force by authorities - perhaps standing up to authority after being injured ala Tiananmen Square - who will be thrust into the public consciousness: "Rather, there will arise an individual *most hints at this stage suggest a female, youngish - say 20's* who will become the 'poster child' of the (solidarity/cohesive) American resistance movement. The data would suggest some nasty moments for this individual, but in spite of suggestions of a (frail frame/waif-like appearance/vatta-body type), the flesh shall endure and the spirit will triumph in a totally (unexpected/unbidden/not sought) (rise) to [prominence/pinnacle]."

There's a lot more to it, of course, but to get it all, we recommend that you ante up the $30 and click over to http://www.halfpasthuman.com/HPHSUBSCRIPTION_INFO.htm for details. Our purpose in putting these few snips out is to place some predictions on the record well in advance of events.

We also note that Secretary of State Colin Powell is not planning to attend this year's event. While most commentary suggests something is akimbo within Republican ranks, what most observers won't tell you is that it has little to do with politics, but more likely everything to do with succession plans. The worry (although by the bots not justified) is that Powell should be well out of harms way in event of a WMD attack on the convention.

Then there's the RNC playing on the WTC tragedy for political ends: Rudi Giuliani will say:

"Winston Churchill saw the dangers of Hitler when his opponents and much of the press characterized him
as a war-mongering gadfly.

"Ronald Reagan saw and described the Soviet Union as 'the evil empire' when world opinion accepted it as inevitable and belittled Ronald Reagan's intelligence.

George W. Bush sees world terrorism for the evil that it is and he will remain consistent to the purpose of defeating it while working to make us ever safer at home."

What would surprise us least? We can already judge the flavor of the event by reading advance comments at http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040829/nysu027_1.html Because there will be lots of playing on images of the WTC disaster, one thought is that might backfire and may be part of what the bots pick up as "insincerity".

Our plot for a perfect run? A Tiananmen square kind of event, a top official revealing untreatable health problems, and a general "backfire" from what we're supposed to see as an emotional event.

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm



Don't tell me Bush is gonna... [xx(]

Quiet Storm

quote:
Now here's why Sistani's return has my complete and utter attention. From the most recent web bot run, there was an image of a "hermit" kind of fellow returning to the country (which we presumed to be Iraq):

"We note that the entities still show the 'return of a wise man/hermit/sage' to Iraq during this period and the 'rising' of the 'small' in support of the 'daring/adventurers' which will result in the defeat of the USofA army. Now, being a US citizen, and a lifer member of the US military, this is particularly unpleasant news to hear/convey. However, the courageous people of the American Military have been mis-used/wasted by BushCo greed and theocratic self-delusion. As such (nothing begun in evil can end in good), all resolutions lead to the defeat of the American presence in Iraq as it was, and is, mis-guided and a mistake at the behest of evil. So, since no good can come, one can take solice in that defeat/expulsion of the American military from Iraq will at the very least, end the nightmare and prevent Americans from dying for this evil years hence in the future (which is the basic *plan* of TPTB)."


Oh gee could this be it: http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=13010
93 PROMINENT MUSLIM FIGURES CALL TO RESIST US FORCES *PIC*
Call to back forces of resistance in Iraq

CAIRO, Aug 22: Ninety-three prominent Muslim figures opposed to US troops in Iraq called on Muslims around the world to support resistance to US forces and to the Iraqi government installed in June.

In an appeal received on Sunday from the offices of Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, the Muslim figures from nearly 30 nations, from Germany to Indonesia, said the aim should be to "purify the land of Islam from the filth of occupation".

The signatories included senior members of the Brotherhood, leading Qatari-based moderate Youssef Al Qaradhawi, Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah of Lebanon, Khaled Mashal of the Palestinian group Hamas, two Egyptian opposition party leaders, Sheikh Abdeslam Yassine of Morocco's Justice and Charity Group and Yemeni Speaker of Parliament Sheikh Abdullah al-Ahmar.

Others came from Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bosnia, the Comoros, Germany, India, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan and Tunisia...

"(The signatories) call on our Arab and Muslim peoples and all religious authorities and liberation forces everywhere to oppose the occupation and savage crimes in Iraq and Palestine, by providing all kinds of material and moral support to the honourable resistance ... until God's victory comes," it said...


I liked that last part of the article especially when it says: "and all religious authorities and liberation forces everywhere to oppose the occupation and savage crimes"

thats a big [;)][;)][;)]

aninfinity1717

QuoteOriginally posted by Oazaki

So I wonder what role Jupiter plays in all this?


Jupiter will become our 2nd sun! :( new planets inhabitable.

aninfinity1717

Then a war is raged, where all super powers die, with America split in half by the United Nations. I present to you, the NWO. Then microchips will be forced on us first by economic dependency and then law. We will be forced to sell our soul (mind controlled, soul changes thinking and so can thinking change soul) by accepting some microchip with a 3 digit base system.

get rid of the victimization mentality to affect our collective consciousness in a good way and finally change our future. No alien brothers will come to save us, because benevolent beings want us to grow as souls despite the physical and mental pains.

i am hypothesizing that a crystal skull can be found in the higher astral realms... with it, wishes can be made, truthes be known. But bad wishes reflect back to you, teaching you that sucking life enslaves you to suck more life, eg.

ask some good beings in astral.

aninfinity1717

I think the only serpent beings you can trust in astral are the ones in the upper planes, the Endorians (there is such a vortex at Wanaque, NJ). I doubt they will try to scare you or imbalance your chakra system.

The other serpent beings have not figured out how to break their curse- sucking fear. Figuring out how is the only reason why they are here. But they won't consider that.....

Quiet Storm

quote:
QuoteOriginally posted by Oazaki

So I wonder what role Jupiter plays in all this?


Jupiter will become our 2nd sun! :( new planets inhabitable.


I think the second sun would be planet nibiru.

Adam

Found this at http://ww-iii.tripod.com/cometquatrains.htm.

Interesting stuff.

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If a major event like a Comet striking the earth is supposed to happen, where are the references of this momentous event in the writings of Nostradamus? In his quatrain I.69 Nostradamus described this event without mentioning the word 'Comet' directly. Elsewhere, he used the word 'Comet' or 'Bearded Star' but avoided any direct reference to the comet striking the earth. But there are many quatrains spread all over his book, which describe the after-effects or side effects of the comet-strike, e.g. huge and sudden floods, earthquakes, "fire from the sky", falling of "red hail" etc. Many of these quatrains are usually interpreted as describing the use of nuclear weapons, but a closer scrutiny would reveal that these quatrains are referring to something more than a nuclear war. The summary of my conclusions arrived from analyzing various prophecies, including those of Nostradamus are somewhat like this:

1. The comet will appear suddenly during the World War III, changing the course of the war. At that time, an attempt would be going on to forge a peace treaty between the islamic coalition and the western coalition. But after the comet strikes, the Europe will be in ruins and the USA severely crippled, easterners will seize the opportunity to attack and conquer all of the Europe.

2. It will come to view for only one to two weeks before it crashes on earth. Scientists will not be able to detect its approach beforehand. There will be very little to do except to try to escape. Casualties will be in millions.

3. The Comet will break into several pieces due to the gravitational pull of the Earth. The biggest piece will fall on the ocean causing huge tidal waves. Some big pieces will fall on the land in southern Europe, releasing huge amounts of dust into the atmosphere and dimming the sunlight. It will also cause tectonic and volcanic activities in Europe and elsewhere. Although Nostradamus speaks about Europe only, it is a forgone conclusion that the damage will not be limited to Europe only. Due to the earth's rotating motion, pieces will fall all over the earth, including the USA. Somehow, the Arab countries seem to escape the destruction. Most of the damage, as described by Nostradamus, are concentrated within the northern hemisphere and within 40 to 50 degrees latitude.

4. For several days, smaller burning pieces, broken off from the Comet will plunge through the atmosphere in a continuous stream causing huge fires in various cities and forests, thereby destroying them. This is the 'fire from the sky". Waters in rivers and sea will be polluted as a result.

5. The comet will be red in color. This is the cause of "Red hail" covering the earth. I was surprised as to how a Comet can be red in color. However, a search of the internet revealed that there is a class of Comets called the "Centaurs" which are amazingly red in color. The first such comet which was discovered was called "Chiron". There are also comets in the Kuiper-belt which are even redder than the sun. The red color of the comet and its long tail will give the impression that it is burning, even before it enters the earth's atmosphere. Those interested in the scientific reasons behind the redness of these comets can read the papers:

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[IX.55] The horrible war which is being prepared in the West, The following year will come the pestilence So very horrible that young, old, nor beast (will survive), Blood, fire Mercury, Mars, Jupiter in France.

The attack against Iraq by USA, Britain and the western coalition forces, opposed by most Islamic countries, might turn out to be the precursor to the WW-III and will obviously be a war "prepared in the West". Nostradamus says that in the following year, (2004?) pestilence will spread. This may point to a possible terrorist attack on the USA and other allied countries in the following year, this time using Biological, Chemical or Radiological weapons of mass destruction. The attack is likely to be on a gigantic proportion, leading to deaths in thousands. Maybe Anthrax and/or other Biological Warfare agents will spread out of control, in such a manner that people - young and old and also animals will die. Anthrax infects human and animals alike.

However, if we go by the astrological configuration provided in this quatrain and interpret "Blood, fire, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter in France" as meaning that Mercury, Mars and Jupiter will be in the same constellation, then we can find that all these planets will be in Virgo in September 2004, Libra in November 2006 and Scorpius in December 2006. These planets will again be conjoined in Sagittarius in December 2008, in Capricorn in February 2009 and in Pisces in April 2011. So, this is by no means a rare conjunction and no specific time period can be derived from this quatrain alone, unless there is a different interpretation for the last line.

[II.62] Mabus then will then soon die, there will come of people and beasts a horrible rout: Then suddenly one will see vengeance, hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.

The question is who is Mabus? There are two interpretations doing rounds these days. 1. If we unscramble the word, we can write it as "Usamb" very close to "Usama bin" the actual pronunciation in Arabic of what we call Osama. It seems to indicate that Osama bin Laden will die, probably due to bombing or due to attack of ground forces or even by suicide after being cornered. He may never be captured alive by USA. 2. Some say, Mabus is Saddam (read backwards, it spells "sudam" after some alteration). The "horrible rout" of people as well as beasts indicate not death due to war but due to some disease. This might be the same event described in the IX.55, the death of people and animals due to Anthrax or other Weapons of Mass Destruction which will spread like wildfire. "Then suddenly one will see vengeance" - vengeance by whom? Most likely by the Islamic terrorists to avenge Osama's or Saddam's death and USA's war against terror in Afghanistan and Iraq. There will be another sudden and widespread terrorist attack. The nature of this attack is not mentioned [Sollog, the modern time controversial prophet said, terrorists will explode suitcase nuclear weapons in Israel (Tel Aviv), USA (Washington DC) and Europe (Rome)]. The repeated threats of Osama and Mullah Omar comes to mind. At the same time a comet will suddenly be seen in the sky, advancing towards the earth, and ultimately striking it, resulting in devastation. It is possible that "Mabus" is neither Osama nor Saddam but it might be the name of some important Muslim leader e.g. Mohammad ABU Salem or Mahammad Abbas (the new Prime Minister of Palestine) etc. who dies just before WW-III starts.

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