Courtney Brown's Announcement for 15th March

[Astral-Trea]

I thought someone said that he said it wouldn't involve aliens. But I hope it does

[Stillwater]

What if it involves our new alien overlords... maybe some sort of animate sentient cloud people?

[shadow.pulsar]

Folks over at Zeta Talk mentioned this on Feb 8th and 22nd. Seems relevant.

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/08fe2014.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/ning/22fe2014.htm

[Lionheart]

 Well part 1, (yes it seems there is 3 parts to the "announcement), is a infomercial for Remote Viewing. Using words like "cutting edge science" and showing how they saw (through Remote Viewing) how the Egyptian Pyramids were constructed, stones moved and by whom.

I was really hoping he was going to say something I didn't know, lol. Maybe they should hire me! 

Near the end of the video he went into some pretty good detail on the process in general though.

Just reading the comments under his video will tell you what the people that were awaiting a significant, undeniable, provable "revelation" really think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUQfyY0IZPI

[Astral-Trea]

Well part 1, (yes it seems there is 3 parts to the "announcement), is a infomercial for Remote Viewing. Using words like "cutting edge science" and showing how they saw (through Remote Viewing) how the Egyptian Pyramids were constructed, stones moved and by whom.

I was really hoping he was going to say something I didn't know, lol. Maybe they should hire me! 

Near the end of the video he went into some pretty good detail on the process in general though.

Just reading the comments under his video will tell you what the people that were awaiting a significant, undeniable, provable "revelation" really think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUQfyY0IZPI

Is it time to call LAME on this yet? I am not going to be the first to say it here lol... I want to but I am giving the honor to someone else... Say it!! You know you want to! 

[Lionheart]

Is it time to call LAME on this yet? I am not going to be the first to say it here lol... I want to but I am giving the honor to someone else... Say it!! You know you want to! 

Well the idea behind the "announcement" was LAME.

But I did enjoy his "Implications Posts". I thought many of them were spot on.

...and not everyone knows the truth about the Pyramids. So I'm sure he will open some people's eyes with this.

[Astral-Trea]

Well the idea behind the "announcement" was LAME.

But I did enjoy his "Implications Posts". I thought many of them were spot on.

...and not everyone knows the truth about the Pyramids. So I'm sure he will open some people's eyes with this.

Yeah that's what I meant.. His countdown and making it all dramatic. Queue sad trombone sound effect lol

[Stillwater]

Lol I knew it was lame before it happened, just from the lame art style he employed.

I mean remote viewing is real, and gets real data, but they made this out to be something it wasn't.

Extraterrestrials could very well have helped build the pyramids as he claims... but... two dudes remote viewing it does not "conclusive, incontrevertible proof" make. He is a phD, so he should know enough about psychology to know that once a person has an idea in their head about what they are seeing, and it is something they have seen before, they will bring their own ideas to the table. That is why you can remote view a place like Suriname in South America you have never been to and have no expectations about, and why remote viewing Paris is MUCH harder. You have all sorts of concepts in your head about what Paris is that you will mingle with data you might be getting from outside yourself. As soon as you see giant pyramids in the desert, you know where you are, and a lot of what you might see is what you expect to see. Brown spent literally 30 minutes in that video making an emotional appeal to us that what he did was "science". If it was, he wouldn't have had to tell us so hard it was. It was interesting, but it wasn't really proof lol.

[Volgerle]

Lame and disappointing, to say the least. And nothing new either.

I say this regardless of how exciting or intriguing (and maybe 'real') the results are. Remote Viewing is not recognised by the mainstream and hence, as this seems to be the only "proof" there is no generally accepted "proof" nor any kind of 'disclosure' at all. Moreover, as I already suspected in my initial post, he just wants to sell his DVD or online movie. All about money again. Sad. That's not the way we change humanity.

Moreover: it is not really anything "new", channellings and geological / archeological / mythological / text- or artefact-based speculations like this existed. Now I'm gonna go watch Ancient Aliens again ...

Darn. Been duped again.

[Volgerle]

... two dudes remote viewing it does not "conclusive, incontrevertible proof" make. He is a phD, so he should know enough about psychology to know that once a person has an idea in their head about what they are seeing, and it is something they have seen before, they will bring their own ideas to the table. That is why you can remote view a place like Suriname in South America you have never been to and have no expectations about, and why remote viewing Paris is MUCH harder. You have all sorts of concepts in your head about what Paris is that you will mingle with data you might be getting from outside yourself. As soon as you see giant pyramids in the desert, you know where you are, and a lot of what you might see is what you expect to see.

Don't want to defend him (not at all) and I also did not watch the announcement yet (too disappointed) and if he explains there how he did this RV project. Generally however it is so that they are not being told about the target they view. I watched another documentary by him where he explains things and there were also two RVers who were not told about the target. Normally they get a number or sth. So it is two different people coming up with Egypt and pyramid building and aliens, etc. without having this concept in mind before. As said, not defending his capitalist marketing ploy, just the metodology, which normally allows not for the preconceptualisation you talk about. So this would still be amazing if both of them (or only one) came up with the target (ancient egyptian pyramids) in the first place despite the fact that they were not told about it. And according to him this is how it worked in many other RV projects (see his website for this).

Of course, it does not change anything that it is no "tangible" proof of ancient aliens or whatever.  

[Stillwater]

Don't want to defend him (not at all) and I also did not watch the announcement yet (too disappointed) and if he explains there how he did this RV project. Generally however it is so that they are not being told about the target they view. I watched another documentary by him where he explains things and there were also two RVers who were not told about the target. Normally they get a number or sth. So it is two different people coming up with Egypt and pyramid building and aliens, etc. without having this concept in mind before. As said, not defending his capitalist marketing ploy, just the metodology, which normally allows not for the preconceptualisation you talk about. So this would still be amazing if both of them (or only one) came up with the target (ancient egyptian pyramids) in the first place despite the fact that they were not told about it. And according to him this is how it worked in many other RV projects (see his website for this).

I follow what you are saying, and I do realize that the method they used didn't provide the name of the target or its qualities to the RV'ers but that doesn't remove all the issues. The way I see it, it could well be that the RV'ers tapped into actual data which led them to accurately identify the target, but after the identification was made, their minds added in a lot of superfluous extras that weren't actually there. That is the thing about RV... even for the best, while they are obtaining information that can be verified, they come up with a lot of things that are just patently untrue. If you are dealing with a talented RV'er, you are getting a set of accurate facts intermixed randomly with falsehoods, at around a 1-1 ratio. This is great for many applications: if you are looking for something that is missing, an indication that this thing may very likely be at location A or X is significantly more information than you had to start. On the other hand, if you are doing something like military intelligence (where a lot of RV'ers were once and may still be employed), if you told your curator that you saw the Russians had a facility at X, and they might have a planet-destroying weapon there, or they might be storing salt there, you can see the frustration that would cause, if it couldn't be tested by other means, and the information had to be acted on.

This is one of the latter situations. I have no doubt that a RV'er could identify the target correctly. Our work here makes the reasons for that clear. My issue comes in when Brown tries to claim anything specific they say about that site is incontrovertible, when there is no way to verify it at all. If they had 5 RV'ers, and they all gave a very specific detail like, "The aliens were from the second star in the Orion constellation, and they used ships that relied on an exotic reaction of a mercury alloy", that would be very substantial, since even if there is no way to verify it, the fact that they all provided this unlikely data point is corroborating. From the first video, it is all mundane things, like "there were aliens, and they made the blocks fly". An 8 year old could have said that. In fact, ask 20 different 8 year olds who made the pyramids, and a handful of them will all say aliens made blocks fly.

The data they provided was neither verifiable or highly specific. I believe Brown showed us two talented RV'ers, but I don't believe for the reasons listed we can take his exuberant claims at face value.

[Volgerle]

Let's ignore the marketing and also in order to be fair, let's quote Courtney himself about the methodology, from the documentation on his website now:

Blind Conditions for all Remote-Viewing Data: All remote viewing for this project (as with all projects conducted at The Farsight Institute) was conducted under totally blind conditions. The viewers were told nothing about the project or specific targets while they were conducting their remote-viewing sessions.

http://www.farsight.org/demo/Mysteries/Mysteries_7/Mysteries_Project_7_ryuseg.html

This being acknowledged I still would have found it even more convincing if more than two RVs would have been involved. Make it ten next time! Still, given the fact that both of them had no info except for the numbers, the results are interesting. (This also applies to the other experiments' results about which you can read on that site in a similar way):

http://www.farsight.org/demo/Mysteries/Mysteries_7/Mysteries_Project_7_Sessions.html

Again: I appreciate his work, but not his public relations.

[Volgerle]

@Stillwater: read you post only after I finished my last above.

Yes, indeed, it could still be a tapping into a kind of belief system by both of them or an alternative / astral reality or whatever. Who knows, it is all not finally and conclusively provable in the physical plane. I do not understand why Courtney did not employ more RVers. The more the better and it would give it more substantiality. It is still amazing to me what they found out and how they corroborate each other (just skimmed the two different results per target and I think there are some details). More work would need to be done.

[Lionheart]

Unfortunately his plan has backfired and he is doing more damage than he is good.

No main stream media is going to announce this on the basis of a Remote Viewing expedition. It's also not going to get scientists in general to take a better look at it.

Now he has a whole bunch of people ticked off and the next time someone attempts to make a "serious" statement, they will get attacked for it.

Looks like the "Boy has cried Wolf again".

I am surprised that he didn't see this backlash beforehand. Is he really that much in the dark?

Sometimes when these attempts seem so blatant, I question the real motive here.

[Volgerle]

No main stream media is going to announce this on the basis of a Remote Viewing expedition. It's also not going to get scientists in general to take a better look at it.

Exactly. That is so unfortunate about it.

Actually, in my naiveness, I had hoped for a mix of Remote Viewing and digging up of some artifacts or a location that proves sth (Hall Of Records) orwhatever. First, it would have again proven the effectiveness of RV to "find" things hidden. Second, it would have produced sth 'tangible' and physical in the Now.

This is actually what another RV specialist and analyst, Stephen Swartz (http://www.irva.org/conferences/speakers/schwartz.html) is doing or has been doing. Employing RVers and then finding what they have seen. Here are some papers by him:

http://www.stephanaschwartz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Marea.pdf
http://www.stephanaschwartz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Eastern-Harbor.pdf
http://www.stephanaschwartz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Beaks_Cay-.pdf
http://www.stephanaschwartz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/caravel.pdf

That is what I call 'producing results'.

[Lionheart]

 This comment from a person on his Facebook page pretty wells sums it all up.

"Christian Payne
  Courtney, your audience is not the mainstream to begin with. Sometimes we are so passionate about our own talents and philosophy, we allow our ego to blind our path. Not out of lust, out of shear passion. You are falling on your own sword possibly from the fact you gave 4,000 + hope, then you flattened them with your truth which can not measure up to the truth the audience desired. Your not a bad guy, you just missed your mark from over hyping the crowd in your arena. Lessons learned."

[Astralzombie]

It will be a loooooong time before we find out what is really under the sphinx. The Egyptians are a proud people and are perfectly happy with the idea that they themselves built everything. Any study that wants to prove anything other than the Egyptians built the pyramids and sphinx will be outright denied and the team will not have access.

[Lionheart]

It will be a loooooong time before we find out what is really under the sphinx. The Egyptians are a proud people and are perfectly happy with the idea that they themselves built everything. Any study that wants to prove anything other than the Egyptians built the pyramids and sphinx will be outright denied and the team will not have access.

True, but ground penetrating radar has already shown there is indeed "something" there. But fat chance the Egyptians are going to allow anyone the permission to go digging for it. Unless of course there is a "great treasure" to be found. We all know how greed can wiggle it's ugly self into situations like this.
   
Does "Pride" still trump "Greed"? I certainly hope so.  

[Stillwater]

It will be a loooooong time before we find out what is really under the sphinx. The Egyptians are a proud people and are perfectly happy with the idea that they themselves built everything. Any study that wants to prove anything other than the Egyptians built the pyramids and sphinx will be outright denied and the team will not have access.

They can't really claim ethnic heritage though, because the people who now inhabit Egypt are absolutely not the same bloodline that was there 3-5 thousand years ago. They are no more Ancient Egyptian than I am Native American for living in the US. They can claim geographic occupation, nothing more.

[Lionheart]

They can't really claim ethnic heritage though, because the people who now inhabit Egypt are absolutely not the same bloodline that was there 3-5 thousand years ago. They are no more Ancient Egyptian than I am Native American for living in the US. They can claim geographic occupation, nothing more.

They claim the land though and as I remember the saying growing up "Possession is 9/10s of the Law"!

[Lionheart]

 Here is a recent radio/Skype interview that Courtney did. In it he talks about his "announcement" and the backlash caused from it.

His part starts at the 34:00 minute mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lyVXP-lSRU

[Astralzombie]

They can't really claim ethnic heritage though, because the people who now inhabit Egypt are absolutely not the same bloodline that was there 3-5 thousand years ago. They are no more Ancient Egyptian than I am Native American for living in the US. They can claim geographic occupation, nothing more.

I was going to mention that point but there is a sec that sill claims a bloodline to the pharaohs and the Egyptians did recently invent a device that can detect and cure both Hep C and the aids virus. This is every bit as miraculous as the pyramids themselves so I suppose they might have a little spark of the ancient ones still in them.

[Xanth]

Sadly, when it comes to remote viewing, there are simply too many variables involved that most people who do it don't understand.  It's as subjective and unique of an experience as Projection is.

In fact, it *is* projection.

[Astralzombie]

Sadly, when it comes to remote viewing, there are simply too many variables involved that most people who do it don't understand.  It's as subjective and unique of an experience as Projection is.

In fact, it *is* projection.

I agree that remote viewing is every bit a form of projection but people who only practice remote viewing do seem to not agree or at least not entirely. They are only interested in verifiable and objective targets in this physical reality.

I think that as a matter of training and practice, they stay away from the "how's" and "why's" because the subjective clouds their viewing in which they already freely admit has enough subjective "junk" as it is.

[Volgerle]

As a fun exercise, but also a little due to the need to "defend" C. Brown I wrote an assessment and overview - now in three parts. It's a long read and a lot of links to watch or read into. Anyway, I think it can be fun to watch some of it. I concentrated mainly on the levitation aspect, and only secondarily on the influence by higher intelligence and/or ETs. Anyone with interest in "Ancient High-Tech" or Alternative History and mysteries in general might like it.

I did this over at the AD forum (I'm Sinera there) and I won't copy it here due to its length.

It's three parts now even over there. 

Part 1: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?17046-Beware-the-Ides-of-March&p=127733#post127733

Part 2: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?17046-Beware-the-Ides-of-March&p=127734#post127734

Part 3: http://www.astraldynamics.com.au/showthread.php?17046-Beware-the-Ides-of-March&p=127797#post127797

Have fun (I did  )!