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NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 02:07:13

alright! this is for everybody who has a great desire to AP!
Calling all newbies like me! we need to learn more about the vibratory state and how to access it, so any newbie who have a desire to learn you came to the right thread!

Please somebody, ANYBODY tell us how to access vibration! i have had an obe before in my sleep, but i have never before done it conciously! so i ask you: HELP

Veccolo · February 14, 2005, 02:21:09

1. Wake up ~2 hours earlier than usual
2. Stay awake for 15-30 minutes
3. Go back to bed
4. Relax
5. Wait

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 02:23:13

OK! sounds like a plan! i will set my alarm clock now!

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 02:23:59

so does it just all of a sudden start to happen? or do you have to "activate" it?

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 02:25:21

and are you supposed to stay "awake"?

Veccolo · February 14, 2005, 02:52:30

> so does it just all of sudden start to happen

Well, to me, it always happened suddenly. Others might experience it differently.

> and are you supposed to stay "awake"?

If you want to see what the vibrations are like, you'll have to stay conscious, yes.

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 02:54:24

OK that helps a lot, thank you

Andali27 · February 14, 2005, 03:10:05

Newbie, need the same help and I'll try what's posted!

Joerii · February 14, 2005, 05:24:38

Alright, i feel the need to post a reply again. Don't worry Major Tom

Whenever i try that " waking up early " trick, i just feel terribly hungover, and when i go sit on the couch to try to get into a trance i just feel cold and uncomfortable and i just want to go to bed. I feel like an idiot so i just go back to bed. Maybe it works for some people, but definitely not for me....

Here is what works best for me.

When my girlfriend works an early shift and i work a late one ( we are both working in a hospital ) she always wakes me up to say goodbye. I'm usually in my last cycle of sleep anyway, so most of the time she wakes me up in the middle of a dream.

So here it comes : When i go back to sleep, i just picture the last place I've been at in the dream VERY CLEARLY when falling asleep. Most of the time I'll dream the same dream again, but this time with more consciousness, or lucidity, whatever you call it. I can then control my dream. Then i simply increase clarity ( just by asking or demanding, works fine ! ) and I AP.

I don't always have vibes, and I'm not sure it's an actual projection every time or if it's something internal. It is always very cool and very easy to do, though, so i try it a lot.

Best results so far !

Have fun ! -Joerii

Super Sonic · February 14, 2005, 11:42:00

i'll try Veccolo's then Joerii's i hope these methods work for me!

Veccolo · February 14, 2005, 12:03:02

Don't expect any method to work on the first tries. You might have to use them for weeks until you get results. Just don't let it demotivate you, because eventually they will work.

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 19:50:15

i tried to do veccelo's but something went horribly wrong!

i made very sure to set my alarm clock, and i did, but when i got up it was so weird! my clock read 2 hours and 28 mins early and the alarm had changed, so i was late instead :s

Veccolo · February 14, 2005, 20:07:11

Hehe

If 2 hours earlier is ... well, too early, try 1 hour, or 1 hour and 30 minutes.

Even if you fall asleep while attempting to get to the vibrational state, you will still have a much higher chance (25 to 50 percent, afaik) to get normal lucid dreams, which you can also turn into a projection.

Andali27 · February 14, 2005, 20:23:33

Ooo! That's what I did the very first time I got the vibrational state (ages ago and I haven't gotten it since), I was falling asleep and it just happened! Well, I'm glad I finally realized where I went right!

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 20:26:34

i thought up another way to do it!

when you go to bed tonight go on as if you were to sleep, but keep your mind concious, and it just might work

Andali27 · February 14, 2005, 20:29:45

nah, I move around too much before I go to sleep. Won't work with me

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 20:30:38

well it might...you never know...

EnderZ · February 14, 2005, 20:32:04

Quote from: NeoSaturni thought up another way to do it!

when you go to bed tonight go on as if you were to sleep, but keep your mind concious, and it just might work

lol neo, you hit it on the head.

-En

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 20:34:27

that actually works? hot digidy damn!

EnderZ · February 14, 2005, 20:55:21

At night is when alot of people AP,
this trick is just staying awake instead of just falling asleep. But its not exactly that simple. I'd recomend you buy RB's book Astral Dynaimcs. It is worth the money and covers many, many things.

-En

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 22:30:37

i would love to buy that, but I'm broke... when you're 15 and have no job you work with what you can

Andali27 · February 14, 2005, 22:34:09

I know how you feel, I'm 17, no job either and I'm constantly wanting to buy stuff. Grrr. I hate being moneyles!

Andali

NeoSaturn · February 14, 2005, 22:40:42

i am looking for a job at a grocery store but my hair is "too long" for a produce clerk, yes i am a dude.

Back to the topic:

any other suggestions?

EnderZ · February 15, 2005, 00:00:43

Google is your best friend.

So is this forum.

But honestly, Astral dynamics is the way to go. Ask your parents to buy it for you, its a book, and you are learning. It will answer I bet 99% of the questions you have.

-En

NeoSaturn · February 15, 2005, 00:21:43

OK sounds like a plan, where would i buy it? possibly at chapters?

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