Astral Stocker

[Grimoires]

Greetings.

I have been practicing AP for many years, since I was 16, and on regular basis since age 17. I'm 25 now and there has not been a single week in the last 8 years in which I didn't have a successful oobe. I write them all down in my notebooks.

I started using Robert Bruce's rope technique from the moment I read his Treatise a few years ago and saw how amazingly easier it is, and I haven't used any other technique since. These days I can project in less than 10 minutes. And needless to say, in that period of time I've had my share of amazing 'out of this world' experiences... generally I consider myself very much experienced when it comes to AP.

I've never shared my experiences with anyone besides my older brother, who is a doctor and thinks I'm a total nut case, but he loves me anyway so its all good and our monthly chats about my 'crazy fantasy' stories has become a fun and solid part of our relationship (although I offered many times to provide him with proof, he chooses not to take it, he has his reasons and I respect that) so anyway, I'm not writing here to share experiences, I have an issue I'd like to get a couple of opinions about, maybe an advise.

About three months ago, weekend was approaching and I was getting ready for what I call exploration-style projection, meaning for me: I was practicing pranayama yoga all week, accumulating energy, getting in top shape for very long oobe where I can feel free to explore without getting pulled back to my body on a short notice.

Out of body, and without wasting any time went Hyperspeed. Since I didn't have a specific destination in mind, I randomly stopped a couple of times and kept going, I was intent on finding something alltogether new. And when I stopped that time, I stayed. I was standing in what seemed to be a huge tomato field, only everything was white. The ground, the tomatos and also the sky. Everything was white without any outlines and I was puzzled as to how I was even able to recognize every tomato from the other, for they were all the exact same pure white, it felt very artificial including the sky, like I was in a huge room. Although seemed to be interesting at first I was now getting rather bored, no matter how far I went, the field was endless. I went Hyperspeed... no use, I was still there. I then went for maybe the longest Hyperspeed stretch I ever tried, no good. Going upwards turned out just as useless. I was very annoyed and thus forced myself back to my body, oobe was over. I wrote it down and went to sleep.

A couple of days later, back from work, time to sleep, always time for a little pre-sleep oobe. So out I went. Through the wall - out of my house. Standing infront of my house door is a demon, looking straight at me.

I'm a very confident 'projector' and I've seen more than a few astral beings of various types, some looked scary some were just plain ugly monkey looking things, some have wings, and I've seen a couple of demon-looking creatures as well, the horns being the only reason I call them demons since none of them had wings, and neither did the one standing outside my house. If seeing one of them, I ignore and so far I've always been ignored. But this one is looking right at me. He is my height, my size, brownish skin color and two large horns. Fear crept into me, we just stood there for a while, I started going away from my house, he adjusted himself to face me, as I kept walking he followed behind, I stopped he stopped. However he doesn't really walk, more like floats, you can see his legs kind of move, but I guess not as much as they should, I don't know how to call it, but he's definitely not regular walking. My fear went away for some reason, I do not feel threatened by him, he doesn't look mean/angry or anything like that, he just looks at me all the time, his expression stays the same. When I try walking towards him he just floats backwards, If I try to speed up and gain on him he moves just as fast, the distance between us is always about the same ~4 meters. I try to talk - he doesn't answer, never speaks a word.

The next day, sure enough he waited outside my house, I said hello he didn't answer, and off we went, looking for another astral projector, I didn't find anyone that day. - The next day I found a sleep walker of sort, someone that is just walking without any idea what he's doing or where he is, I don't know if these guys are dreaming or something, but they are usualy acting very strange when you 'wake' them up, I knew I had to act fast, I talked to the sleepwalker and he woke up confused, I told him "Hello, can I ask you something, do you see that demon?" and I pointed at the demon, he answered "What?" I asked again and he said "No? where?" and 'feel asleep' again. I tried that another time the following week with another one, about the same result. I do believe this demon is only seen by myself.

He is always there, for the past 3 months since the white tomato field, I am almost 100% sure he has to do with the field. Was I tress passing or something? I have no idea how to get back there or if that would make him go away. To be perfectly honest, I don't really mind him that much anymore, he's just there, watching, but I guess its none of his business.

Any ideas?
Thanks.

 Grimoires

[knightlight]

Have you told the "demon" to go away?  Thrown a rock at him?  What I am getting at is have you tried everything you can think of to get his attention or make him responsive?  Maybe your not communicating the way it wants to communicate.  Maybe it isnt what it looks like.  It could be a watcher of some kind, meant to keep an eye on you, but you project the image of the demon onto it because you dont know what else it looks like... or maybe it projects the appearance itself.  Lots to ponder.  I dont know necessarily if it has anything to do with the tomatos but I would try to go back to that place and see if the demon follows you there.

[Grimoires]

Very strangely took me a few days and many attempts to have a successful oobe, I can't remember the last time I failed so many times... although I don't feel any less confident than usually, but I think maybe I am starting to mind having him around.

knightlight: that's an interesting idea, but would require a Lucid Dream which I rarely have, I wonder if he would appear in it as well. I would love to go back to the field to see if he'd follow me there, but I can't think of a way to get there again.

runlola: yes I practice at least 30 minutes pranayama every day.

[Grimoires]

A few nights ago, as I went out of my body, I was glad to find my beloved dog (his name is Kiba) was already out of his body and was waiting beside my bed. He does that sometimes, just follows me around  its very sweet (he can't travel fast, so when he's around I walk in normal speed).
We went outside, and there was the demon waiting, but the very second Kiba saw him (finally someone can see him, because so far no other astral traveler/being did) he sprint towards him! (like I said, the demon is always moving along with me, so that he's always about the same distance from me) but when Kiba run towards him he did not float backwards he didn't move at all, and when Kiba was almost in touching distance the demon disappeared!
I was shocked. Kiba seemed very proud, wagging his tail faster than ever we walked around the neighborhood for a while and there was no sign of the demon, he did not come back the entire projection.
I had another two obe since then, without Kiba, and the demon is still nowhere to be seen! I think he's actually gone.
I realize now how much he disturbed me, although I thought he didn't, I feel a great weight lifted off me! I hope he doesn't come back. Dog is indeed man's best friend

[Astralopithicus]

I was wondering if your 'demon' may have been your guide ? They say that our fears can overlay benign or even loving spirits with frightening features so that even your dear old spirit granny might appear like something nasty as she tries to reach out to you. Or it could be another human projector trying to make contact ? The little I know about low-order negs leads me to believe they need you to be frightened and if you are not they can't stay around much. The fact that it seemed benign would lead me to believe it was not a neg but your fears imprinting on something or someone wanting to make contact. Could be you missed out on a message or something meant for you. I don't have a solution, maybe just squaring up and forcefully demanding to know it's true identity or form might have done it ? Who knows, interesting experience anyway.

[Grimoires]

I tried forcefully demanding its identity more than enough times, if it was a guide of any kind he had more than 3 months to say something, and I doubt it would be so scared of a dog. The fact that I feel relieved that he's gone also means something, I think if he was a guide or some help-full being I would have felt different about him gone, like I missed something or even guilty, which I don't feel even one bit.

I'm not however saying he was a negative force, just not a help-full one either. I didn't think he was harm-full at all. Now that he's gone the only thing I can think about him is that maybe he was lost and couldn't find his home, maybe his home was the white tomato field, and maybe he felt an energetic signature on me from the field and just followed me around in hope of leading him back home. If only he had say something... anything. I had absolutely no idea how to get there again anyway. Well its just a thought.

[Vilkate]

Maybe he liked you, but was too shy to confess! XD