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[Quiet Storm]

Adam: I have read a prediction by Mabus stating that the USA will be nonexistant by sometime in 2005...
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Welp, looks like hurricane Frances is heading Florida's way, this time it's going to land on my side of the peninsula unfortunately according to the media they are encouraging the people to take the forecast track as a very serious and alarming situation because it is pointing to our direction (southeast florida) yet saying there is still much uncertainty as to whether it's going to follow that path or not.

I think it won't at least not directly. I am anticipating a shift more to the north which would keep me and my area at least in a safer light since this is one powerful hurricane. One thing that is significant that I noticed about Frances that I noticed the same thing with Charley is that that bands of rains that the hurricane is producing looks very unusual compared to what I have seen in past hurricanes. The bands look all wavy, they have some sort of ripple like effect as if caused by some sort of low frequency 'seismic-like' waves, or electro-magnetic fluctuations. Some news reporters here have taken their time to explain sensations people may feeling because of the 'pressure fluctuations' the hurricane is bringing.

This hurricane definately looks like nothing I have ever seen before, it's power is very noteable. Have these cyclones evolved or is there another peice of the puzzle that is not being mentioned in the mass media?

Read the following article about hurricane Charley for a possible peice of this puzzle and you decide:

Charley - Scalar Electromagnetics Used?
By Michael Edward
World Vision Portal.org
8-30-4

First, a brief background regarding Scalar Electromagnetics and how they effect weather and the human mind.

The key discovery made by Tesla in the late 1800,s was that the earth itself reverberated with a pulsing electrical current in the low ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) range. Tesla had also discovered the exact frequency at which the earth normally pulsates. These natural waves are created as a result of electrical activity in the atmosphere. Collectively, these waves are called The Schumann Resonance. These are quasi-standing [SCALAR] ELF waves that naturally exist in the earth´s electromagnetic cavity, the space between the ground and the Ionosphere.

By causing many towers [HAARP, GWEN, etc.] to pulse with the exact ELF frequency of the normal earth pulsation, scientists have learned how to not only create, but also how to maneuver and direct storms. Tesla,s discovery can duplicate almost every single phenomena of nature, from cyclones to tornados; and now, with Solar Power Satellites used in conjunction with land based towers, weather Control is just that simple.

GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network) transmitter towers bathe the entire U.S. in an artificial magnetic field which can rise from the ground to 500 ft, but also goes down into the ground as deep as a normal basement. Everyone can be affected and mind-controlled. This entire artificial ground wave spreads out over North America like a spider,s web.

The natural earth ELF waves are identical to the frequency spectrum of our human brainwaves, and it has been proven that the use of an ELF bombardment - at the same frequency as the human brain - can change a person´s thoughts or emotions. In the early 1960,s, Dr Andrija Puharich discovered various mental effects of ELF, specifically that 7.83 Hz (the earth´s pulse rate) made a person feel good, producing an altered-state; that 10.80 Hz caused riotous behavior; and that 6.6 Hz caused depression. It has since been discovered that 10 Hz puts people into a hypnotic state.

In speaking with everyone I can who survived the direct path of Hurricane Charley, I have begun to see a definite pattern in their stories. At first, it appeared that this was the effect of rapid barometric pressure changes that accompany powerful hurricanes. But people were not just describing the pressure they felt in their ears or the other physical signs of rapid pressure changes. Rather, they were describing extreme mental and mood changes they could not control.

About an hour before the center of Hurricane Charley passed over, survivors have described how they became very tired, depressed, and lethargic. While an approaching hurricane would depress just about anyone anticipating its arrival, the depression every survivor has described was not the anxiety depression such anticipation would typically invoke. This was an overall mental and physical depression that even affected them with general body aches and a widespread feeling of non-wellbeing. Almost all said it was as if they were drugged with a pain killer, but without the "goofy side effects. They could do the things they needed to do, such as get mattresses into their bathrooms to huddle under, but their thinking seemed "surreal.

When the eye passed over, they described feeling "numbed, both mentally and physically. While a few took a look outside to see if it was all over, most said they just didn,t have a thought to do anything other than sleep and not move an inch from where they were.

When the backside of Charley came, the same numbness as in the beginning again overwhelmed them. But what is most interesting is what they all described after Charley had finished its fury, from 1 to 3 hours later. Stupor, hypnotized, trance, under a spell, and zombie were the most common descriptions. Even though they were aware that the hurricane had passed, they were mentally not able to do anything. Some knew it was all over, but they just wanted to sleep. Nearly all just stayed put and didn,t bother to check their own surroundings. Nothing made sense, it was hard to get words spoken past a mental thought, and there was no fear or care about anything.

Personally, Charley was the third hurricane direct hit I have lived through, yet I never felt the same symptoms with the first two as I did with Charley. I experienced the same as all those who survived this hurricane with me. We all felt the exact same way before, during, and after, and we all agree that it was very odd the way we felt mentally and physically for those few hours. Moreso, those of us who have lived through previous hurricanes all agree that we never felt like this during our previous experiences. Our experience with Hurricane Charley was unique and different.

If ELF Scalar Electromagnetic frequencies were used, this would account for what I have described above. But more than that, if such Scalar EM was present, then this may also account for the rapid change in Hurricane Charley,s direction. Scalar mind and weather manipulation are accomplished in the same ELF range, and that is not just an unproven theory: It is a proven scientific fact.

When Charley was approaching Jamaica, the oddest thing took place. It was following a direct line path through the center of Jamaica, but suddenly it made a perfect arched curve to the south, and ended up back on its original course after it had swung around the island. That was just as odd as the sudden right-hand turn it made into Charlotte Harbor. There,s no doubt that since hurricane paths have been recorded over the past 200 years, no hurricane ever acted like Charley did or had ever followed such an erratic path. This was one of the biggest reasons Tampa was the predicted landfall area.

There are lots of unanswered questions about Charley, but one strong possibility is that it was manipulated using ELF Scalar methods. The symptoms we all experienced and the erratic behavior of Charley itself seem to lend credibility to this likelihood. For those like Tom Bearden and others who have far greater knowledge about Scalar, GWEN, HAARP, and ELF, I invite your comments. All of us would like some answers.

Michael Edward

http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?p=467#467
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Last week when I was monitoring this hurricane I told my dad I had a feeling about this hurricane. Wasn't a 'good' or 'bad' feeling but it was definately unusual. What do I think about this hurricane? I definately think it is being influenced in variety of means. []

One of them being for political reasons which I don't want to get further into right now, but one thing is for sure: the market and the gas companies are definately benefitting from the consumers preparing like there's going a y2k event. Security measures have been stepped up, Jeb Bush declared the whole state of Florida under emergency. I read a thread on a forum linking to an article that suggests Martial Law is going to be declared by Monday ... but I am anticipating that it won't at least not for my area.

The media was being sensational about this hurricane earlier during the week and really hinting 'prepare' with their media coverage of local supermarkets and harware stores like Home Depot because they supposedly want to monitor how people are reacting to the hurricane and asking them questions. And I'm sure alot of people like the cameras too and might wanna be on tv... heheh.

This hurricane looks as if it can more of a punch than hurricane Andrew but since my home went through Andrew back in 92 without a scratch I think it won't be siginificantly damaged if at all. I'm still anticipating the hurricane turning to more to the north though, and I'll see how that goes. []

[Jenadots]

Dear Quiet Storm...if they tell you to leave..leave.  I was traveling there during Andrew and was in a hurricane in the Bahamas.  This one looks nastier than either one of those and they were awful.  Never been so scared in my life.  The wind got so bad that we thought the shelter was going to be blown away.  

So for your own safety, go to a shelter if they tell you to....
I know it is a hard thing to do, but your life is more important than any stuff.  Hope you will be safe.

Jena

[Aileron]

Yeah, if this does hit its more than likely gonna be dissapating over the US continent which means that it will just basically hang out over florida and the SE states.
It has a good chance of turning into a lvl 5 hurricane, and this will be the first time the states were hit like this.
The only other time I believe was in 58 with two hurricanes six weeks apart, but they were only lvl 3's, both of em.

[Adam]

Interesting stuff QS.

It's certainly not stuff you'd find in the mass media, eh? []

I'd imagine they'd be useful at distracting people, and creating havoc, so as people are preoccupied. Maybe they use it to target an area that are showing signs of awakening? Who knows?

[BirdManKalki]

"Let me be clear on this. I was offering advice, to ANYONE who was getting frustrated. I was not speaking specifically to you."

Alieron I apologies for my mistake it just seemed to me, at the time that this was pointed in my direction, my mistake. I also didn't aim the suggestion that YOU yourself were being deceived but I can see why you would have assumed that it was aimed at you.  

"But perhaps I am a fool"

I think we are all fools I know I am.

Interesting view Palehorse.

I know this isn't exactly on topic but its just one post.  

Now back to Jesus.

Before you read the following I would like to say that I know that everybody has their own interpretations of the bible and I am not here to enforce my views, however the question has to be asked what is meant by the term generation?

"This generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."

I think that it is safe to assume that Jesus thought on a different level then most people. He would have had to communicate simple abstract truths to people of a lower understanding. With this in mind some of the things he said can take on different meanings.

Now what could he have meant by the term generation? We can take the road that generation implies all the people that were born around that time however I think this term implies something slightly different.

It is likely that Jesus saw everything as one. This being so the term generation would be implied to the whole of mankind and not just to those alive at the time. I think it is also likely that he saw the bigger picture and therefore how he could set events running in the desired path.

What if the term generation refers to the generation of man, what I mean by this is the present cosmic cycle. Therefore when Jesus said

"This generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."

This would mean that all these things must happen before we return to source.

Now I shall explain how I view Jesus actions.  

In orthodox view Jesus had already upset some powerful people before he arrived in Jerusalem. When he arrived he went to the temple and drove out people who were buying and selling he flipped over the tables of the moneychangers and the stools of those selling pigeons. He knew that this would annoy a lot of powerful people. This act made sure that he would attract the attention of the authorities. Having been arrested and then proclaiming before their eyes himself the sun of god sealed his fate. As already mentioned Jesus was an intelligent person who thought on a higher level of understanding if he wanted to he could have talked his way out of this situation so why didn't he? The only explanation is that he knew and possibly the priests knew that he wasn't just setting up his crucifixion but something else that has been completely overlooked.

Now what could be this something else?

Jesus knew, just as we know now, that the temples had power and had become corrupted. What in this case is meant by corruption? Now suppose we take the term corruption to mean an inevitable shift in mans consciousness towards materialism. This would mean man over identifying with form and man forgetting his spiritual self (God).

Now if we take the term mans consciousness to be Gods consciousness in form (inhabiting form). This would be the same but opposite consciousness of (God). God not inhabiting form, being formless. However God the formless and all knowing, knew this and it not being beyond his power had already planed he would incarnate using the form of Jesus this is why Jesus is Gods Son.

Now when Jesus awoke he became God realized. This meaning he realized he was one with all, including God. Having realized this he would know both Mans consciousness and God consciousness. This would mean that God (Formless) would have become conscious while in Mans consciousness (form) or to put another way God-incarnate.        
       
Jesus, now being god realized (God Incarnate) would now know what God knew (The inevitable fall into corruption) due to the melding of God consciousness. The inevitable fall into corruption would mean man forgetting himself and turning away from a spiritual Life. Which would lead to man forgetting himself and worshipping false idols this being foreseen by god the farther and by Jesus (being god realized, a son of God, one of Gods children) it would have been understood that there was need to intervene without the consciousness of man, consciously knowing, then to plant events that would save man from unconsciously sinning and ultimately helping man to find himself at the right time. When God intervenes without man consciously knowing it is what is referred to as a changeover. A changeover is when God intervenes without man having any idea.  

"He flips the projectors, movie keeps going and the audience doesn't have any idea"

Now due to the inevitable fall into corruption Jesus knew that it was set for man to forget himself. This would mean that in time man would forget his connection with God the unformed. This would lead to idol worship and unconscious sinning and punishment of the masses, which was to be avoided without man consciously knowing. Jesus knowing this and loving us all took a plan of action that would remain unnoticed by mans consciousness.

However Jesus knew all this. By knowing this he knew the way to stop man from permanently forgetting himself. Because Jesus was in the know he saw the bigger picture, he knew that man had already begun to forget himself. Jesus knew once he had been crucified man would forget himself and consequently those in power the leaders would fall into materialism and because of their ignorance and the unknowing mismanagement of the basic instincts would unconsciously lead the masses into false idol worship and therefore unconscious sinning of the masses. However Jesus knew what to do.                    

Jesus guaranteed his crucifixion by purposely upsetting ignorant religiously powerful people by making them look foolish in front of many people.  Jesus also upset the authorities at the temple in Jerusalem as already mentioned. Jesus also knew that man had already begun to forget himself for some of the Priests had become corrupted (shifted to materialistic ideals) and the people under their guide would follow.

"Luke 16

13" No servant can serve two masters. Either he will hate one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both god and money."
14 The Pharisees who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15 he said to them, "you are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but god knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in gods sight"  

"Luke 20        

45While all the people were listening, Jesus said to his disciples, 46"beware of the teachers of the law. They walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted in the market-places and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor and banquets. 47They devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Such men will be punished most severely."  

The above passages verify some of the priest's corruption. However not all where corrupted. That year Caiaphas the high priest had prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation and not just the Jewish nation but for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one.  It is said that Caiaphas did not say this on his own. What follows is an important passage that is often misinterpreted. We shall do are best to translate this passage.

"John 11
       
45Therefore many of the Jews who had come to visit Mary, and had seen what Jesus did, put their faith in him. 46But some of them went to the Pharisees and told them what Jesus had done 47Then the chief Priests and the Pharisees called a meeting of the Sanhedrin.
"What are we accomplishing?" They asked. "Here is this man performing many miraculous signs. If we let him go on like this, everyone will come take away both are place and our nation."
49Then one of them named Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, spoke up, "You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people then that the whole nation perish." He did not say this on his own, but as high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, 52and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one 53So from that day they plotted to take his life."          

Why is it Caiaphas did not say this on his own?
What does the term Jewish nation mean?

What does the term-scattered children of god mean?

In what context is the word perish used and what does this mean?
 
These questions shall now attempt to answer.

On Caiaphas

First we must examine the statement about Caiaphas. Caiaphas as the high priest would have had wisdom (meaning he understood the connection of all as one) and been untainted by corruption. Having been untainted he was able to translate Gods word and see clearly what was to be done. What could the statement mean that reads "he did not say this on his own" Now this is an important misinterpreted statement. Before we decide on the meaning of this statement we should first determine the meaning of the statement prophesied. In the dictionary the word prophet is described as follows,

N. Person supposedly chosen by God to spread his word; person who predicts the future. – Prophetic adj. - Prophesy n. prediction; message containing Gods will – Prophecy v. foretell.

With the above terms kept in mind the term prophesied takes on a new concept.  Also if we included the statement "he did not say this on his own" we can come to the conclusion that a prophet prophesies, and that God chooses a prophet due to his ability to prophesize (Interpret Gods Will). So when it is said that Caiaphas prophesied it means that he successfully interpreted Gods will. Caiaphas knew that Jesus was to be killed and he knew why. The statement "he did not say this on his own" verifies that Caiaphas was working with God and had to interpret Gods will, not only this is verified it also verifies that the other priests agreed with Caiaphas. This would mean the majority of priests were believers and if the priests were believers so were the people.  

On The Jewish Nation

Now we should interpret what the statement Jewish Nation means. We know that the term gentiles refers to non believers atheists, would it not then seem logical that the term Jewish Nation refers to the believers, those who believe in the lord. And that it isn't as thought by the masses, just to do with blood? This would mean that the term Jew in the bible symbolizes a believer, and not just a person of Jewish ancestry. It is also said that the Jews are Gods Chosen People, now if we take the term Jews to mean in this case believers, then if we take a believer to be a person that believes in God, that would mean all those who believe in God are Gods Chosen People, which is an obvious statement.    

On the Scattered Children Of God

Now we should interpret what the statement-scattered children of God means. It is said that Caiaphas also prophesized that Jesus would die not just for the Jewish nation but also for the scatted children of God and that he would bring them together and make them one. Now if we take the statement-scattered children of God to refer to the masses that were to populate the earth and forget they were Gods children due to the (inevitable fall into corruption). Then this would mean the Gentiles (Atheists) who have forgotten they are Gods children will become One Nation again with the Believers, via understanding the message. When the other Priests use the term nation they too are referring to the Nation of believers. They were worried about being destroyed not as a nation of Jewish ancestry but as a Nation of Believers and the believers were to Perish due to the inevitable fall into corruption via unconsciously sinning. The Priest were debating whether or not Jesus was the Prophesized Messiah if they had been wrong about Jesus then man would have unconsciously sinned. However they weren't wrong.            

"50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people then that the whole nation perish."

It needs to be asked what this statement means. We shall do this by first displaying in what context the word nation is used. We shall assume the priests knew of the Inevitable Fall Into Corruption and why Jesus was to be sacrificed due to Caiaphas successful Prophesizing. This being so the term Nation in the above statement refers to the entire Nation Of Believers, Gods Chosen People or in one short term Jews. Now we shall display what context the term perish is used in the above statement. It must be remembered that due to the Inevitable Fall Into Corruption, God would not have been worshiped and that false idols would, and have been worshiped. This being the case The Nation would have been unconsciously sinning and would thus have to Perish. Unless a changeover took place.

Why save Barabbas?

Now I have written enough information for it to be understood why Barabbas was freed.  As we know now, the church is corrupt however who's image do its followers worship?

This is why the Jews screamed for Barabbas to be set free, this is why the Jews are said to have plotted to kill Jesus. This is why Pilate was confused because they wanted to kill their own Messiah. This is why Jesus refused to answer the priest's accusations. This is why Jesus rode in on a donkey why he flipped the tables, this is why the people loved him this is why Jesus loves you. It's all one big changeover.                  

Having really understood the meanings of the statements Generation, Changeover, Jewish Nation, Scattered Children of God, and the Inevitable Fall Into Corruption the answer as to why Jesus Loves you will come to you.  

Your comments anyone?

"You know nothing at all! 50You do not realize that it is better for you that one man die for the people then that the whole nation perish. He did not say this on his own, but as a high priest that year he prophesied that Jesus would die for the Jewish nation, 52and not just for that nation but for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one "  

Reread Revelation and see.

Hey it can't rain all the time.

With this understood Download if you want, Johnny Nash (I Can See Clearly)

"My son, do not make light of the lords discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the lord disciplines those he loves, and punishes everyone he accepts as a son"

"Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is, a virtue in her shape how lovely"


BIRDMAN

[Adam]

Really should start a new thread for this... []

Why the mods decide that it's in our best interests to keep locking threads here, I don't know.

Just because people don't necessarily see eye to eye, and the conversations aren't necessarily all lovey-dovey doesn't mean they need to keep being locked!! Bloody hell [!]

[halfphased]

heh, I know it's funny that when someone wants to be certain that a point is clarified and  the other someoen doesn't give an answer that fully clarifies and the first someone again asks for clarification in a different way so that perhaps the person who's comments are in dispute will better be able to clarify it is seen as running in cirlces.  I guess we are just to read comments without critically thinking about them and we are to write comments in the same manner and not be responsible for what we say.  heh

But back on topic or we'll be welcome to nice shinny padlock.

[Quiet Storm]

12:35 PM EDT Update

Clinton Hospitalized: Web Bots Right - Again

With the report that Bill Clinton has been hospitalized today for an emergency triple bypass operation - we note that in our Monday web bot summary we forecast: (link to forecast)

"We´ll also be on the lookout for some talk of disease at a high level "Rather what we have is a lexical structure with words such as [evil], [vile], [foul] and [stagnant] also contains some references to disease. In fact, enough such references to disease appear that the lexical aspect takes its name from that subset. However, this is apparently all about a single [prominent/powerful/public] person being (struck down) by [disease] within the framework of the convention itself. This [disease] subset is cross linked back to (no movement)[facilitates/improves] which suggests that the disease is not something that is treatable."

While the "within the framework of the convention" is a bit off, we have to note that this is the final day and Clinton is above all else, a political figure. We wish Clinton a speedy recovery, but note that artery problems are not specifically "treatable". Our prayers that he recovers speedily."

http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm
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This is cool technology. [8D]

[MJ-12]

I would hardly classify that as a "hit." The prediction was very vague and there are thousands of high level political figures.

[Palehorse]

Yeah, I wouldn't consider that a hit either.  With so many high level political figures running around, the vast majority of which are old men over 50, you're bound to have a lot of health problems between them.  That said, I probably *would* consider it a hit (or at least pretty damn close) if not for the prediction that the diseased official would come within the framework of the RNC.  The only thing this really does concerning the GOP is that it takes Clinton out of commission for a while so he can't campaign for John Kerry.

That said, I just wonder if these web bots are inadvertently sabatoging their own predictions.  We've all heard about how it may be that making such predictions actually changes the future... So, what if this *was* going to come true, but since the web bots mentioned and publicized it, the events took place in a much less obvious way?  For instance, when those predictions were made, I'm sure all heads immediately turned in Cheney's direction, the condition of his heart and his old age making him the most obvious candidate.  So, the circumstances which had to manifest, did so in a much less obvious way... though Bill Clinton.

Just more fun stuff to think about.

[Adam]

I'd imagine this link would be right up your alley, Quiet Storm.
[]

http://boards.ethericfreedomfighters.com/eve

Basically people who have united to fight the nwo/illuminati/reptilians/etc. by knocking out their mind control towers with orgonite-based devices. I've been looking into organite-based stuff myself, and I think I'm going to order a couple of HHGs (Holy Hand Grenades) and see how they fare at my house.

[Walk-In]

The tragedy that is the Russian school incident has been likened to the US 9/11 and has activated the awareness of the Russian people.  Could this be the web bot "hit" we've been watching for?

[Adam]

... and oh yeah... notice how other threads in here have been quietly deleted? Like that guy who kept talking about the demon war... can't remember his name... but yeah. Don't like it. [}:)]

[Quiet Storm]

Walk-in: I dont think thats a hit.

About the hurricane: There is way too much coverage in the news about the hurricane. All local news stations have been watching Francis since last week and they all talked like they "knew" it was coming this week, and were getting everyone to prepare for it. This has never happened before in south florida and I've lived here all my life.

So they started covering this hurricane too early, not only that the governor declared all of Florida in a "state of emergency" way before it looked obvious the hurricane was going to come, so that gave him the power to let FEMA (and homeland security?) manage the security and let them do whatever they think should be done.

In the past with many other hurricanes the local media started covering them when they were much much closer and when it was OBVIOUS that it was going to it Miami. Francis is now hitting Central Florida (just like Charley did) and now they are all just covering this storm like it's "reality tv" and not just in Florida but all across the US  heard. The hurricane is NOT THAT BAD. Just a category 1 hurricane, and for some reason I think it may even be less. My area did not even get a power outage. It's a good thing we didn't spend money on preparations for this hurricane. It really DID make that shift to the north.  []

Either the media and the government are using new policies or they actually FELT Francis was going to come onto shore way before it came and thought they'd want to anticipate his arrival.

In the past with many other hurricanes the local media started covering them when they were much much closer and when it was OBVIOUS that it was going to it Miami. Francis is now hitting Central Florida (just like Charley did) and now they are all just covering this storm like it's "reality tv" and not just in Florida but all across the US  heard. The hurricane is NOT THAT BAD. Just a category 1 hurricane, and for some reason I think it may even be less. My area did not even get a power outage. It's a good thing we didn't spend money on preparations for this hurricane. It really DID make that shift to the north.  []

South Florida's people all have been talking about this hurricane since last week. They were all 'hurricane crazy'. The people around my area got prepared, they bought gas like crazy, there was lines and people had to wait an hour before getting to the pump because of the gas lines. And earlier this week when they were still waiting for this hurricane and Bush urged everyone to stay home when the hurricane was still 2 days away people began to think it was not coming and just wanting to get it over with so they can move on.

So why all the unnecessary coverage? Seriously there are way more important issues that are getting around but the many news stations are just not talking about at all. Are they trying to direct attention to the hurricane to direct attention away from all the latest revealing 'developments' and the RNC?

Now hurricane Ivan and some people might not take it seriously. Those who already have prepared for Francis may want to use that stuff for Ivan if he comes ashore.

and I might want Ivan to come... but not without weakening some. Category 2 or 3 is just about right, my apartment would definately survive that and it wouldn't be too strong for other buildings as well (except maybe trailer homes) yet would 'disrupt' normalcy.

ah... I'm done ranting.

[Jenadots]

I agree, QS - there has been absolutely nothing on TV but the hurricane for at least 24 hours - and I am in the midwest.  

I think the media enjoys doing everything it can to stir up panic - and to justify all their expensive crews hanging around beaches and buildings just waiting for some kind of disaster.  All of CNN and Fox News, CBS, ABC and NBC seem to be there along with some locals from here - standing in the rain, hair all a-blowing, and claiming "ain't it awful" and nobody is here except us who have so much macho that we can take it....Did you see Geraldo in his storm outfit...any disaster and he is there.

I am sure there is a lot of damage to houses and landscapes and flooding and it is sure no fun being in a massive storm for days, but you are right, the news people seem to be in panic mode - far more than the people like yourself who actually live there.  

It is almost like they are said that hundreds haven't died or been injured last night.  

I am a news junkie, but is it really news that trees get uprooted and roof tiles blow away and streets flood during a hurricane?  Not that I don't care about helping the people who have lost everything - I do, and I make a contribution to the Red Cross whenever I can -- but the news people need to be run off those beaches and find something else to do with themselves instead of waiting for someone to get hurt or killed and then asking the stupidest question of How does it feel?

Glad you are doing OK...hope this is the last hurricane of the season, but it probably isn't.

Stay dry if you can.....JD

[Quiet Storm]

I don't have cable tv, only local channels, so no I didn't see Geraldo on Fox TV. I learned that the hurricane was being covered nation-wide from someone else.

The news reporters like to suggest emotions as well as assure federal security and law on live tv. They are like puppets.

Funny how during a much more powerful and much more deadly hurricane: Charley was not as covered as Francis was, and also not as covered up. I have read many stories from people saying that FEMA was purposely taking their time so that the people waiting for federal 'security' and 'nourishment' get all antsy and such. I also heard about coverups and the like.. such as hiding the total number of deaths and losses. The news reporters hardly ever mentioned the amount of tornadoes in the eyewall and outwards from that. Charley was really intense, and yet nobody over here gave a damn at least not as much as Francis.

Hurricanes are really interesting. I went through andrew as a child, and I don't remember much of it, but the thing that stands out to me the most was the ghastly howl of the sustained winds. And the howling went on for hours. I didn't get much scared since I was with lots of people in a big house which got no damage, but I can imagine the feelings it's possible that I can feel if I was in a house alone and just a ghastly howl going on for hours on end.

I think it's really cool though. I hope to be in one hurricane like that again, and definately reguarding the other people going through it. I think Andrew had alot of... character. That thing was ALIVE.. it was a monster. Way cool. [8D]


And now here comes Ivan...Im definately gonna see if I can weaken that storm before it makes landfall, to make it a bit easier for the people. []

[Anonymous]

I completely agree with you, Quiet Storm.  All I have gotten was a lot of rain and some fallen trees.  No big deal.  The coverage is ridiculous although the hurricane has turned around and is hitting my little town again.

I hope Ivan is a lot more powerful to justify the news coverage.

[Quiet Storm]

---Here Comes the Sun---


On Sept. 8, NASA´s Genesis mission is returning to Earth, bearing samples of the Sun. In a well-rehearsed midair maneuver, a helicopter will hook the spacecraft´s return capsule and bring it gently and safely to the ground. The capsule´s contents of solar wind may help scientists understand the origins of our solar system. The event, which takes place in the skies over Utah, will be broadcast live on NASA TV and the Internet.

http://www.genesismission.org/


´Spotlight: Here Comes the Sun Genesis is the agency´s first sample return mission since the last Apollo mission in 1972, and the first ever to return material collected beyond the Moon.´


´Spotlight: Genesis spacecraft returns to Earth
The Genesis spacecraft returns to Earth on September 8, 2004 in a dramatic mid-air capture.´
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*****The Genesis Reentry*****


On September 8th, a daylight fireball will streak across the western United States. It´s Genesis, returning samples of the Sun to Earth.

Meteors are unpredictable. You never know, not exactly, when one will streak across the sky.

Not so on Wednesday, September 8th. At precisely 8:52:46 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time (PDT), northwest of Bend, Oregon, a fireball will appear: a white-hot dot of light, brighter than the planet Venus, gliding across the blue morning sky.

This is no ordinary meteor. It´s a space capsule jettisoned by NASA´s Genesis spacecraft, returning to Earth with precious samples of the Sun, and we know exactly where it will go:

From Bend, traveling 25,000 mph (11 km/s), the fireball will streak across eastern Oregon, brightening as it descends into denser parts of Earth´s atmosphere. At 8:53:35 a.m. PDT it crosses the southwestern corner of Idaho and, moments later, northern Nevada not far from the tiny town of Elko. Finally, at 8:54 a.m. PDT, slowed to a near-halt by the capsule´s drogue parachute, the fireball will fade over Utah.

Sky watchers as far away as 100 miles from the reentry path could see the capsule glowing "10 to 100 times brighter than Venus," says meteor expert Peter Jenniskens of NASA´s Ames Research Center. For comparison, that´s about as bright as a fat crescent Moon. Jenniskens expects the fireball to be most luminous (visual magnitude -9) when it is over Nevada.


Complete article along with imaging & maps.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/03sep_genesisreentry.htm
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The Story of Genesis

Our solar system, with the Sun at its hub, holds a dazzling diversity of planets, moons, asteroids and other small bodies, which scientific theories say all formed from a giant homogeneous cloud of dust and gas called a "solar nebula." Intrigued by how this formation occurred, scientists sent NASA´s Genesis mission to sample the "solar wind" released by the Sun´s outer atmosphere.
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"Our spacecraft has logged almost 27 months far beyond the moon´s orbit, collecting atoms from the Sun."

"The helicopter that does achieve capture will carry the sample canister to a clean room at the Michael Army Air Field at the U.S. Army Dugway Proving Ground"






On September 8, 2004, the drama will unfold over the skies of central Utah when the spacecraft´s sample return capsule will be snagged in midair by helicopter. The rendezvous will occur at the Air Force´s Utah Test and Training Range, southwest of Salt Lake City.

"What a prize Genesis will be," said Genesis Principal Investigator Dr. Don Burnett of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "Our spacecraft has logged almost 27 months far beyond the moon´s orbit, collecting atoms from the Sun. With it, we should be able to say what the Sun is composed of, at a level of precision for planetary science purposes that has never been seen before."

The prizes Burnett and company are waiting for are hexagonal wafers of pure silicon, gold, sapphire, diamond and other materials that have served as a celestial prison for their samples of solar wind particles. These wafers have weathered 26-plus months in deep space and are now safely stowed in the return capsule. If the capsule were to descend all the way to the ground, some might fracture or break away from their mountings; hence, the midair retrieval by helicopter, with crew members including some who have performed helicopter stunt work for Hollywood.

"These guys fly in some of Hollywood´s biggest movies," said Don Sweetnam, Genesis project manager at NASA´s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. "But this time, the Genesis capsule will be the star."

The Genesis capsule -- carrying the agency´s first sample return since the final Apollo lunar mission in 1972, and the first material collected beyond the Moon -- will enter Earth´s atmosphere at 9:55 am Mountain Time. Two minutes and seven seconds after atmospheric entry, while still flying supersonically, the capsule will deploy a drogue parachute at 33 kilometers (108,000 feet) altitude. Six minutes after that, the main parachute, a parafoil, will deploy 6.1 kilometers (20,000 feet) up. Waiting below will be two helicopters and their flight crews looking for their chance to grab a piece of the Sun.

"Each helicopter will carry a crew of three," said Roy Haggard, chief executive officer of Vertigo Inc. and director of flight operations for the lead helicopter. "The lead helicopter will deploy an eighteen-and-a-half foot long pole with what you could best describe as an oversized, Space-Age fishing hook on its end. When we make the approach we want the helicopter skids to be about eight feet above the top of the parafoil. If for some reason the capture is not successful, the second helicopter is 1,000 feet behind us and setting up for its approach. We estimate we will have five opportunities to achieve capture."

The helicopter that does achieve capture will carry the sample canister to a clean room at the Michael Army Air Field at the U.S. Army Dugway Proving Ground, where scientists await their cosmic prize. The samples will then be moved to a special laboratory at NASA´s Johnson Space Center, Houston, where they will be preserved and studied by scientists for many years to come.
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coincidence?

[Quiet Storm]

Not a bad track record last week:


How´d we do? Last Week´s Forecast Reviewed:

Last Monday, we forecast that by this week we would be looking back at the RNC this way - the events forecast are in black while the events and fits are in blue bold font:

The "takeaways" that the bots suggest we´ll have next week might include a widespread recognition that the RNC meeting will be highlighted with a revelation (or revealing act) "Indeed, a failure at multiple levels. As the data set indicates, (all/any)[movement] results in (bound/constrained/frustrated)[desires/goals/efforts]. This is apparently all due to a single instance of the widespread perception of [insincerity]. or [sincerity] that is (inconsistent)." In the media the focus was on President Bush saying to Matt Lauer on Monday (after our post) that the war on terror was not winnable - and then the White House spent considerable time the rest of the week doing the "what the President was really saying was..."

We´ll also be on the lookout for some talk of disease at a high level "Rather what we have is a lexical structure with words such as [evil], [vile], [foul] and [stagnant] also contains some references to disease. In fact, enough such references to disease appear that the lexical aspect takes its name from that subset. However, this is apparently all about a single [prominent/powerful/public] person being (struck down) by [disease] within the framework of the convention itself. This [disease] subset is cross linked back to (no movement)[facilitates/improves] which suggests that the disease is not something that is treatable." This was a shockingly close forecast: Bill Clinton saw a doctor on Thursday and was sent home because his symptoms were not immediately treatable. He then went to the hospital on Friday and will have bypass surgery this week. The remarkable thing about this forecast was that almost all the pictures that were shown of Clinton were of his appearance at the Democratic National Convention - thus our "within the framework of the convention itself" call was arguably quite good.

We´ll also expect that there will be someone involved with the protests, who will arise out of the protester´s efforts, perhaps who will be subject to obviously excessive force by authorities - perhaps standing up to authority after being injured ala Tiananmen Square - who will be thrust into the public consciousness: "Rather, there will arise an individual *most hints at this stage suggest a female, youngish - say 20´s* who will become the ´poster child´ of the (solidarity/cohesive) American resistance movement. The data would suggest some nasty moments for this individual, but in spite of suggestions of a (frail frame/waif-like appearance/vatta-body type), the flesh shall endure and the spirit will triumph in a totally (unexpected/unbidden/not sought) (rise) to [prominence/pinnacle]." Here is where the young female AIDS activist being dragged out of the RNC hall - and by some reports being kicked in the process - seems like the best fit. The body type is right and there´s been some suggestion that she may file a large lawsuit for the way she was handled.

So what´s ahead this week? Nothing big (if the California quake and three more storms hitting the US - although it looks like one will be hitting a grape growing area - California? - until we get to Friday night through Saturday night. Sept 10th & 11th - the Anniversary of 9/11. That´s when we get in range of the assassination attempt or attack of an institutional type we mentioned last week.



About the only other thing on the horizon is part of the run that says authorities will get close to capture of Osama bin Laden, but that it looks like OBL and a number of associates will escape. Specifically,

"For instance within our Terrorists entity we find a lexical arm

suggesting that the [old/wizened/white haired] [man/leader] will be

(forced) by (circumstances of risk) to (take) to (hiding) (under) the

[veil]. Now, with recent blathering on the blathering-scope (TeeVee)

about the impending capture of O.bin Ladin, it could be that what

we are seeing referenced here are details about the escape in

which the ´veils´ or ´identity´ of a women are used to (confuse)

[thoughts] or to (apply) [confusion] to the [thoughts].



Apparently an attempt at ´restraint/constraint/capture´ will be

unsuccessful due to ´leaks´ from ´sympathizers´. These leaks will

lead to an ´escape´ of ´nine´ persons. They will be (driven) to

[ground] for [3 days] and will have [no food/sustenance/support]

during this period. Further, there are indications that while

[concealed/hidden] in a [hole/cave] with an attribute of [metal]

which may be suggesting a culvert sort of thing, one or more of

those fleeing will ´drown´ in the rain for (fear) of (raising/lifting) the

[head]. "

So if you´re in the mountains of Afghanistan or Pakistan and see 9 "women" walking in a rather unfeminine way taking cover in a culvert for three days while troops are in the area...that´d be what´s up. Full details of the run (Analysis #5) is available to www.halfpasthuman.com subscribers.



Again, we are very sorry that our forecast about the use of children as part of the terror war came to pass. Damn shame.



If you don´t understand web bots, you can either read my various explanations by wandering around the UrbanSurvival compound, or if you´re academically inclined, a bit more technical explanation from Cliff the virtuoso of c/perl/prolog (he´s the guy behind the curtain) at http://www.halfpasthuman.com/HPHRONGELOS_0521.htm

[Quiet Storm]

At the risk of having today´s report sound like the "Daily Bot Report", in the latest cut of the data there are two items to put on the calendar. One is a potential for an attack on an institution or person of significance here in the US:

"An entity arises which must reluctantly be named FoundationCrumbles. This entity represents what does appear to be a attempt at an [attack]. The lexical construct of the entity suggests an (attack) on a person, or in more singular language and so could be interpreted as an assassination attempt rather than a more general form of attack as we are doing here. The use of [strike](down) could apply to an attack of both a personal or an institutional kind.

Further, the clustering of lexical clues suggest that the most likely time for the attack is the night of September 10th. We have a clustering of our distance values for this entity arriving at that date within the modelspace. So the suggestion is the night of the 10th or the morning of the 11th. And of course, in so far as the western mind is concerned, using a solar calendar, this would be the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks of 2001. "

The other is what seems like a very large and damaging California earthquake which will take the southern part of the Golden State back to "a previous age" - suggesting that the event will come not as one, but two quakes with a pause between them - so when (if?) it happens, remember the first quake is the same or smaller than the second one that would be along shortly. You´ll know this will be the event when you get this to match:

"Other than the above, there are not a whole lot of meaningful references which come through. However we can note that there are specific references which suggest that a prison, or building housing a court will be seriously impacted. In the lexical structure it suggests that such a building will not be demolished all at once, but will (hang/suspend) its [crumbling/destruction] and that this will allow for some [entombed/trapped] individuals to extricate themselves."

http://urbansurvival.com/lastweek.htm#quakeforecast

[CaCoDeMoN]

Hmmm....
When this thread started I was very skeptical to predictions made by a web bot, but with those hits it is getting more and more interesting. I wonder how that bot works...
Thanks for posting this QuietStorm !

[Anonymous]

Yes, very good Quiet Storm.  Things are lining up quite well.

In response to Adam's suggestion of EFF.  That site is quite eliteous.  Very closed-minded indeed.  If you are not talking about orgone energy or refer to it as orgone energy then you are one of the enemy.  Quite rude I believe.

[Adam]

Yeah I noticed that, actually. They seem to be very quick at getting rid of people who don't think along the same lines as them. And even when people disagree with them... well! Chop-chop. But he does say it's a website for action so... *shrugs* guess they can do what they like. But I've still no clue as to how to get approval to bloody post! So how the hell can i even help?? [?]

edit: oops, just noticed I got approval. Guess I had to wait long enough eh... []

[Anonymous]

Exactly, Adam.  I got a approval and I was suspended the same day.  I was trying to get my feet wet and possibly learn something new but no.  Judging by their posts they seem to be quite paranoid.  There experiences seem to be dealing with FBI plots to kill them or their family and then they send some sort of orgone attack and they stop the threat.

Also these devices they have are quite strange.  Basically crystals that can emit a bunch of energy (gifting, i think they call it) and stop the government from making their supposed mind control (cellular phone towers) from controlling the populace.

I'm not saying that they are crazy, I am just saying that they are placing a lot of faith in this Wilhelm Reich's theory of orgone energy.  Which surprisingly sounds just like spiritual energy but under a different name.

I do believe their narrow-mindedness will be their downfall.

[Quiet Storm]

hmmmmmmm....
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ASTROLOGICAL HEAD´S UP!! WE´RE IN A 9/11 SCENARIO!

From: http://www.laweekly.com/rockie/

(Rockie Horoscope by Rockie Gardiner)

FORECAST FOR THE WEEK OF September 10 - 16, 2004

What happened was simple and synchronistic: On the last day of Mercury retrograde, as I was almost finished with the forecast for this week, my hard drive died. Kaput. A few phone calls to Dell and a few days later, a new hard drive arrived. It was installed, along with a bunch of programs, but I couldn't retrieve the column, because I hadn't saved it on floppy. Then I started thinking, well, the forecast was so scary, it's probably a good thing that it doesn't make it into print. Who needs to be reminded that the nasty aspects in effect on 9/11/01 are the prime features of this week's horoscope? Obviously, you do. So here's the scoop. On Thursday, 9/9, aggressive Mars challenges subversive Pluto as their square aspect becomes exact. On Saturday, 9/11/04, the exacting Virgo sun squares Pluto in Sagittarius, echoing the events of their conjunction on December 13, 2003, the day Saddam Hussein was captured.

The day that the Twin Towers collapsed, transiting Pluto was on the USA Ascendant in Sagittarius in a tight opposition to transiting Saturn in Gemini, the sign of the Twins. On June 11, 2004, two weeks before the scheduled transfer of power, so to speak, to the Iraqis, the 20-plus-degree Gemini sun opposed Pluto. This was about the time astrologers were predicting that George W. Bush might die, because transiting Saturn/Satan was approaching his natal Cancer sun and, hey, let's not forget Tecumseh's Curse. (That's the 20-year pattern of presidents elected in years that end in 00, 20, 40, etc., not surviving their term of office.) Besides, 20+ Gemini is the USA's natal Mars position, and who but the military needs more Mars? Which brings us to the new moon on Tuesday, 9/14, at 22+ Virgo, which, incidentally, is the USA's natal Neptune position. Remember Neptune, ruler of oil, movies and music, magic and mysticism, drink and drugs, faith and fanatics, lies and delusions? Anyway, this new moon at 7:29 a.m. PDT shows Ceres (Mother Goddess), Sol, Luna and Mars within one degree of each other, and close enough to Jupiter at 28 Virgo to be affected by the giant planet's tendency to exaggerate and rely on luck. All of the above are being squared, i.e., tested, by power-crazed Pluto, the Lord of the Underworld and the villain of this piece. On Wednesday, the 15th, Mars converges with the sun, and boom! It's Rosh Hashanah. Not the best indication of a happy New Year, but we can try, nonetheless. Here's a promising note: On November 1, the day before the election, the USA's progressed sun leaves scientific Aquarius, where it's been for the past 30 years, and enters spiritual Pisces for the next 30.



(ROCKIE ROCKS!)