How to observe your physical body fall asleep

[G3MM4]

I tried the timer thing, it won't work. I tried it out in IE6, Javascript and sound turned on, volume turned up, waited for the timer to go off, no sound. Tested the timer and got no sound. So what's happened? I really want to try this method.

[cube]

Someone else reported a similar problem and I fixed it on my forum but forgot to re-upload it to astral pulse.

The fixed version is here:
http://www.saltcube.com/timer.html

Please let me know if the new version works for you.

[G3MM4]

Just tried your new timer with my volume turned right up, still doesn't work. []

[cube]

Can you tell me if "Example 2" on this page works for you?

http://www.javascripter.net/faq/sound/play.htm

Also, what operating system and web browser are you using?

[G3MM4]

Yes, example 2 works. I'm using Windows XP Home Edition (SP2) and IE6.

[Zachariah]

Interesting Technique....Maybe I will try it out....but since when did the mind fall asleep?  I thought the only way to let your mind rest was through 'meditation', 'blanking' or silencing of the thoughts....??

[G3MM4]

Which is impossible for me ATM.

[cube]

I'm not sure how to fix this because I'm using XP IE6 SP2 also and the timer page uses exactly the same code as in example 2. Could you check to see if the timer page you have says "Version 2.3" at the top, maybe it's a cache issue?

[cube]

quote:
but since when did the mind fall asleep? I thought the only way to let your mind rest was through 'meditation', 'blanking' or silencing of the thoughts....??

When you dream your mind falls 'asleep' in the sense that you lose conscious awareness of your waking life. The goal of this method an most of the other projection methods is to put your body to sleep while maintaining awareness of your waking personality.

[upstream]

There is no such point when the mind fall asleep. The mind has many parts. Basically, trance means the ability to let some of those parts fall asleep and to keep others awake. For example, you can say to yourself that you will fall asleep, but one part of your mind will alert you when you are ready to project. It is very simple and effective method to watch yourself fall asleep.

Also, you can watch yourself as you watch yourself. It sounds weird but even the effort to do that has a great impact on your sleep. I call it double self-reflexion and mostly combining it with the viusalisation of a warm red light ball in my neck which is very sedating and produce a hypnotic mentation that conductive for sleep.

As always, the main point is to sustain the awareness of NOW.

[cube]

Someone pointed out that the link to the zip of the timer on the saltcube page was out of date, so I'ved updated it. The correct version is now 2.4. If example 2 worked for you and you have 2.4 it should work.

[upstream]

Hello Cube, WE ARE ON-LINE!!!

[G3MM4]

The verion is 2.4 but it doesn't work for me. []

[Scavenger]

Well in any cases, im very close! i felt the wave, and a very heavy feeling in my chest, must be the heart chakra.. []

[cube]

G3MM4,
I uploaded version 2.5 debug to http://saltcube.com/timer-debug.html
Make sure IE doesn't give you a message at the top of the screen about it blocking the javascripot code and make sure that you have the security settings set to allow javascript.

When you hit "Test Volume" it will give you 5 alert boxes and then it should start playing the beep. The last box should be "5 detected ie4".

Can you tell me if it gives you all 5 alerts and if not what is the last one?

I also added a button that says "Raw playSound()" can you see if that makes it beep?


Scavenger,
Yes, you did it! I think the heavy sensation is because when your body falls asleep it takes more "neuronal effort" to make your muscles move and so it feels like there's more resistance.

[Ahmad]

Nice technique Cube.

Anyway, do you have to lay on your back to do this? will laying on your back help?

Also how can we keep a "silent mind"? Does that mean we have to try not to sleep, does it mean we dont' let our mind drift etc..

When i lay down especially on my back my eyelids automatically vibrate sometimes and my eyes move around i try not to allow them to but it still happens. Will this pull me out of trance?

[G3MM4]

quote:Originally posted by cube

G3MM4,
I uploaded version 2.5 debug to http://saltcube.com/timer-debug.html
Make sure IE doesn't give you a message at the top of the screen about it blocking the javascripot code and make sure that you have the security settings set to allow javascript.

When you hit "Test Volume" it will give you 5 alert boxes and then it should start playing the beep. The last box should be "5 detected ie4".

Can you tell me if it gives you all 5 alerts and if not what is the last one?

I also added a button that says "Raw playSound()" can you see if that makes it beep?


Scavenger,
Yes, you did it! I think the heavy sensation is because when your body falls asleep it takes more "neuronal effort" to make your muscles move and so it feels like there's more resistance.

Yes it all worked. Should I use this one then?

[cube]

Hi Ahmad,
The more I do this the more it seems that it's better not to have a totally blank mind but you do want to be daydreaming a little bit. It's good to do a mental focus exercise first in order to cut down on mental chatter to a degree, but then you want to let your mind drift into just being relaxed.

Here's an entry from my log that talks about what can happen when your body falls asleep:

quote:
I can't remember exactly what it was that finally got me to fall asleep. But when it happened there is a swelling feeling from the inside that fills your whole upper body right before your body shuts down. I was in the blackness, I searched what I could see for any kind of blob that looked like I could use it. I saw a cloudly like thing that could be a door so I went to it, opened the door with dream hands, behind the door was a cartoon type world, a country house. I flew around in it for a while trying to soak things in as much as I could. It had a very strong 3d shooter type feel to it from the way I was looking and moving through walls, that is probably because my perceptions are coloring things and not because the world is really like that.

G3MM4,
I took out the debugging info and uploaded Version 2.6 to http://saltcube.com/timer.html, thanks for helping me to get it working!

[Ahmad]

I don't think i can actually sleep when im on my back, its to uncomfortable. So maybe i could let my mind drift as much as i want until the vibes kick in. I'll post my findings if anything happens [|)]

[waterways]

Ever since I was 13, what has prevented me from projecting ultimately was the horrible pinpointed itches that pop up. It really is horrible. Just thinking about it is makin em come back.

Itll start as just one itch, say on my toe... Ill resist as long as I can, but then Ill slyly scratch it with my other foot. As soon as that itch is gone, 2 3 4 or more itchy spots pop up. Then I start to sweat from being horribly uncomfortable. Eventually, rolling over stops the itching, and ends the experiment.

The only way for me to overcome those insanity provoking problems has been to experiment when I am barely awake after being roused by something in the night or early morning.

I hope Cubes technique works, but Im afraid for me, I really doubt Ill be able to overcome this by facing it head-on.

A couple of shots of whisky helps with the trance but it screws with the quality of the projection

[Ahmad]

hehe, that was my problem in the beginning.. until i found out i had allergy and rashes because i had extreme itching. No mosquito bites or anything but i'd be itching whether its at school, during a test etc. Now the allergies gone [] and i learnt to fight the itching which is very mild atm.

I guess when i had extreme itch it taught me not to scratch. I was just trying to induce SP and some saliva when into my throat and it made it hard for me to breathe out.

[cube]

Here's an article on combating itching:

http://www.saltcube.com/?t=itching

Here is how to have an OBE once you've put your body to sleep:
http://www.saltcube.com/?t=after-fall-asleep

[Ahmad]

Is it possible to AP/OBE without going into SP/Trance/Focus10?, because in this book i'm reading they say you can without SP.

[cube]

Yes, it's possible to AP while fully conscious although I haven't done it yet. Spectral Dragon does it that way, what book are you reading that talks about that style of AP?

[Ahmad]

You probably haven't heard of it but its called "Astral Voyages" by Dr. Bruce Goldberg. It's not the best of books but it was available at my local library.