33-fold self

[Covelo]

I had a dream once where a lady was explaining to me that I needed to discover my "33-fold self".  Does anyone out there have any idea what this might be referring to?  Is there any particular significance to the number 33 in developing the energy body in any practices?

[Legend]

I had a dream once where a lady was explaining to me that I needed to discover my "33-fold self".  Does anyone out there have any idea what this might be referring to?  Is there any particular significance to the number 33 in developing the energy body in any practices?

This is just a blind guess, but this is probably a "symbol" more than anything.  If you wanted to take it literally, I would point out that you actually live other lives today in other places.  Time is an illusion and even physics agrees with this at this stage of our group evolution.  As a mater of fact, you are often attracted by the people who are like you in other lives.  Thus the 33th you could be just another you trying to communite to you.

[Leo Volont]

I had a dream once where a lady was explaining to me that I needed to discover my "33-fold self".  Does anyone out there have any idea what this might be referring to?  Is there any particular significance to the number 33 in developing the energy body in any practices?

Double numbers are 'master' numbers, but the good thing about your dream is that you are being Spiritually Sponsored by the Goddess (Catholics call Her 'Our Lady').  

That is fairly high level spiritual patronage.

The Goddess will always speak cryptically.... in the tradition of oracles which are never straightforwardly clear.  You are meant to ponder what is said... maybe for years.

She once told me "When Mountains of Tin are frozen, (that I) would be a Mystic".  How can that possibly mean anything?  But it was the first sign that I was being guided and sponsored.  It was not the last dream or vision either.

[Ta_alos]

You may want to take a look at some dream books that deal with numbers... the number 33 itself may not actually be significant.. however something like 3 + 3 = 6 might work too.. its up to you.. ultimately its your awareness that decides that...

[Leo Volont]

That is typically the way numerologists do it -- they add the numbers together.

3 + 3 = 6.

I had a dream of numbers that also added up to 6, and was also concerned with 'Our Lady'.  I was told by this Angel that I was to be part of Our Lady's entourage, and he took me to this Train of some three or four railway cars.  In the last car was my seat, and it had an assigned number.  the number was 231.  2 + 3 + 1 = 6.

[Wells]

I love numbers in dreams - just this morning I had a dream where someone gave me a phone number 027... it was, and when I got to the 7 and typed it in, the phone  did a 1 instead - which meant I was typing in 027 again and again, quite a clever way to drum it into my mind, who/whatever sent me this message.

After I had woken up I remembered it, 2 + 7 = 9.  The 0 is there just so it was a realistic number.

[aleshah]

number 33 could be the awakening of the christ consciousness.
It could even be an installed spiritaul enity(as jesus christ = demon)
33 it is to living in a conscious body( i feel to know)  
33 could be describing the female/ male tetrahedrons of the merkaba.
or just two tetrahedrons, eachone with 3 corners.
while number 6 numerology
means perfection & materialization,  as number 6 looks like a circle where from the left side flows energy in ( anticlockwise spin)
while in 9 energy flows out from the right side.

[shift_tao]

i remember something about the 3 fold law in wiccanism.  I think it is called that

anyways it is about the balance of karma (you get what you give), but also introduces the possiblity of having something worse happen to you in return.

thats all I've got.. other then the other comments made before that i wont bother repeating

You also have to take into account that dream books will rarely work because one symbol may mean something to someone and something totally different to someone else.  This dream was a manifestation of YOUR sub-conscious mind trying to solve a problem or make you aware of it.

Try ignoring everything you have been told in this thread and sit down and meditate on the ENTIRE dream (or what you can remember).  There is no need to exaggerate or change the dream to make it flow better because that isnt how it works.  Just relive the dream in its raw form and afterwards be open to further insight from your sub-consious.

goodluck  

[daem0n]

the merkaba is done in two pyramids btw, two tetrahedrons one is incomplete

[aleshah]

it would better, i've just written male + female.... not male/female

1 male tetrahedron = 3 corners
1 female tetrahedron = 3 corners
(or pyramids)

Pyramids= fire in the middle
while

Mer-Ka-Ba  or Vortexjah,
has got 3 times eyes or holes creating the zero point of hyperspace  of 4 / 8 Hz
(alpha energy,heart, omega energy)

i'm gonna  working on meraba, does anyone exp?

[aleshah]

Another explanation could maybe that time moves in cycles.

in kabbalistic belief systems
(decribbing the physical )there are 3 phases or steps, when
1 time cycle is complete.

[daem0n]

i have merkba for purposes of ascension, don't know how it works (can't crack it into 3D), but it indeed works, oh excrement, i understood, i'll try it tonight, thx (know how to improve it)
also you can't use merkaba to ascend to 4D anymore, this path has been cut off due to incomplete ascensions (merkaba ascended and body and soul spontaneusly combusted, not a desirable thing), we are ascending to 5 D anyway

[aleshah]

Did you ever tought about descending?
Evryone wants to ascend but what is with the path downwards?
I don't believe something can burn off, by tuning one's merkaba.But evrything has got the first time i guess
Have you some information, about improving merkaba(not the usual credit card stuff)?
Has this just to do with the optimal tuning of this fileds by the fiabonacci sequence ?
i guess complete DNA activation completes merkaba development...
this means ascending to 12 Dimensions and above.
I want to crack it down to the 4th / 3rd Dimension.

[daem0n]

i don't really know what descending is, like to 2 dimensions ?
yes, altering DNA requires merkaba (supposedly), i'm doing it now but not on human consciousness level so don't really know how to explain it, this form doesn't understand it
this is not DNA activation but reconstruction (from other planes, as you know), but the body is all the time in 3D, up to some point, but i don't bother distinguishing it now
i don't know about fabionacci sequence, or are familiar with your nomenclature
as form ascends, merkaba ascends and changes form, i use 2 pyramids form in this first stage, and it is optimum for me, the improvement was rather symbolic + another technique, but haven't tested it yet, for i won't be able to handle energy flow

[aleshah]

i made mistake it is called fibonacci sequence
its in german, as you can see on pictures, you can maybe remember something.
The further you divide then more you have got the golden phi ratio.
However the two rotating fields are naturally tuned to 3rd dimension in some ratio.
http://www.paranormal.de/paramirr/geo/11.html


I feel  now it is a mistake to separate dimensions in this form 2D,3D.4D (it is only for the undestanding some principles)
all dimensions are interconnected, evrything is connected to something in kind of mathematical, logical *relationship* in this universe, beyond the
karmic laws of reason-cause.
As evry dimension can be related to diffrent plans (mind, body, space,hyperspace) of existence..
I personaly feel responsible to deeper my undestanding in this.

[aleshah]

Here is some taken, translated part of counter rotating field of Mer-Ka -Ba:
Breath 16 - 34/21 - 2/3 speed of light code:  Give to your spirit with the inhalation the code - 34 21.  This means, which will rotate mental doubling wheels in the same time 34 times against the clockwise direction, while that rotates emotional doubling wheels 21 times in the clockwise direction.  This rotation relationship also upright received if both their speed to increase.  34 and 21 is part of the Fibonacci sequence:  1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89... etc. much of the engineer Design in nature is based on the Fibonacci sequence.  With different rotational frequencies and frequency conditions one has entrance to different dimensions.  Blister when breathing out air by a small hole in the mouth out, with large strength!  This arranges to accelerate the rotation speed immediately on 2/3 speed of light at the outside points.  It is sudden breathing out to accelerate the rotation speed compelled.  The relationship 34/21 permits to become Mer ka ba faster than 1/3 speed of light, as it now suddenly with 2/3 of the speed of light rotated.  The fast centrifugal turn causes now a projection in the center of the energy ball, this transforms the rotary ball into a disk.  If the turn reached 2/3 of the speed of light, the rotary ball takes presently/immediately the form of a rotary disk, about 17 m in the diameter around your body, centered at the basis of your spinal column.  The disk has the form of a ' flying saucer ' or also a galaxy.  This energy matrix is called Mer ka ba.  Moving in opposite directions rotating the disk is not yet stable, but easy varying.

source: http://www.paranormal.de/paramirr/geo/mer/mermed.html

[daem0n]

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/EGYPT666.html
here you have merkaba i use
i know german a bit, being your neighbour and all , so i think i manage, it is difficult to understand words, but i get the concept
oh ,and you don't need love, at least in mine, new age rocks
in order to ascend you have to get rid of all electricty, or else your form won't be able to hold, and ... spon comb, supposedly
more info in english on this site http://www.beyond-the-illusion.com/files/Altered-States/Energy/merkaba.txt
i think that compromise should be drawn out of this, i stabilized the disk without the febionacci sequence, however 9/10 speed of light is more called for, difference in spin may take the speed higher but i think it destabilizes individual toward mind, i can't understand my high self at this point (well, i merged with him and subconcious, but i obtain the info the same way, outside of my body), i'll think of it more and give answer tomorrow

[Leo Volont]

Dear Guys,

Reference Pyramid Power.

I used to go through a great deal of effort to make quite exact models of the real pyramids.  Then it occurred to me that each generation of pyramid got steeper and pointier -- that there was no 'ideal' Pyramid, and that the builders were simply aiming at steeper and pointier designs... whatever their engineering was capable of.

Anyway, I decided to experiment.  Almost anything that is pointy works just fine.  Take a pencil or a ballpoint pen and point it into your Brow Chakra.  Is it not equal or better than any pyramid power?  Sometimes the easy solution is better simply because it is easier.  You might not have an elaborate pyramid built on the proportional specifications of Giza, but you probably have a pencil.

Coincidentally, Ben Franklin found that the principle of 'pointiness' works also for ordinary static electricity.  To this day 'lightning rods' are designed to come to sharp points.

[daem0n]

i don't know what my pyramids are, i just get them from high self level, but that doesn't mean that  they are fine, in ascension merkaba pyramids in the end become sphere on higher levels, don't know now
the great pyramid was the first one built, along with 2 other great pyramids,supposedly, but i don't know or bother about it

[cheezerman]

When I read "33"  I immedietly thought of this diagram:

http://www.angelicinspirations.com/page101.htm

It's from a book a gifted psychic referred me to; New Chakra Healing.

It's also interesting to note that the higest rank in the masonic order is the 33rd degree.  It's at that point that you are supposed to have angel-like powers.  So they say.

Hope this helps.

[aleshah]

intersting reference is coming on 33

@daemon..the first link post *egypt666*

was kind a simplyfied guide, but i think it could be made much effective, not only focus the root chakra at each breath (as each mudra changes, but move on, the whole spine - each mudra is closing the diffrent electricity circuit.
Maybe they mean just put all the old vital energy out of the root and passively activate it.


I suggest not try visualize this trangles/pyramids to hard, just feel them, as this are electromagnetic fileds of mind...rater you don't visualize your heartbeat, you just feel and make it beat slower/faster.

the second guide is *hell* plenty of text, and miraged information, but adds important information to open the heart centre, cause of dealing with 'high energies'.

But has the failure of visualising a trangular plane, from the scalar 2D view,
as this plain is not triangular in any y-axe it moves down the body.

I think it is important to clear the body out from astral beings & from 5-D beings, to proceed, it makes me believe that this guides are just made
to pump up energies to diffrent places lol

[daem0n]

i don't know how these circuits flow
and what about pyramid shape instead of star tetrahedron ?
i think that making pramids interconnect forms a star of dawid in 3 d, and is result of combining both ways
also, as you noticed, the emphasis is different on heart chakra and 3 eye chakra, satanists ignore heart (foolish )
i still are not sure about fabionacci sequence, i think it creates imbalance
i feel these pyramids anyway throughout the day, but notice that they turn with the speed of light, so feeling pyramid shape is rather out of the question
your comment about fire in the middle reminded me of kundalini, i will connect both in due time
i doubt about 9/10 speed of light too
yes, i have to kick them out from time to time, no troubles with astral being, though
they have interesting role, for example some specialize in painters and give them impressions, or cooks, actors etc, some all of them at the same time
makes it harder to distinguish what is yours and what not, up to a point that is

[aleshah]

also, as you noticed, the emphasis is different on heart chakra and 3 eye chakra, satanists ignore heart (foolish )

Satanist rate reverse the senses, there is no foolish with it.
They just attend to cosmic energy?
It wasn't the 3 eye, they wrote about above the head (ca. 30 cm above the head, the alpha multidimensional energy center)
I guess the full functioning needs all three..  (omega, heart, alpha).?
they begin to spin? and then you realy feel this huge light psiballs.

i still are not sure about fabionacci sequence, i think it creates imbalance

I suppose imbalance is first caused, if the magnetic fields are moving faster then electromagnetic ones, but it's the same.
with 9/10th speed of l and  above they begin to stabilize.
I felt them moving faster, as i tried to extend energy in 'compassion meditation', this effect came with a long delay & i'm  unsure if this was the effect of light speed.
On astral , as I wasn't aware of merkaba, i ve seen already some triangles around, but they had a metalic look, still unreal. and an astral entity tried to rotate them to trick me out.

makes it harder to distinguish what is yours and what not, up to a point that i

Indeed, as I realized that, there were sitting about 40 students in a class. astral ? imagination is very powerful and very tight (real) .I first experienced pain on astral , as a woman tried to cut my hair... lol

[daem0n]

i'm currently recovering from my previous experiment (not merkaba related), and it will take me one more day to heal my aura completely, then i will begin experimenting with merkaba
about satanists, you are right
having 3 psiballs at base, heart and head seems good idea, too
do you have some info how these circuits are situated in the body ?
till then, ...

[aleshah]

particular i do, there are some natural blocks in between the first triad,and some kind of labyrinth inside the head, 90 degree energy turns and similar wishy washy

Your previous experiment is maybe similar to the light tube mediation. I suppose Drunvalo m. just put alot of mediations in one.and later used on comercial sessions.

I labeled it psiballs, cause i sensed the light movement first in the under the feet, heart, and above the head.( i don't pretend to be a saint, i just have been much envolved in healing)

What trouble are you in?