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McArthur

Because I still have ongoing entity problems that seem to have been attached for some time. I found this Shaman that seems to really know what he's talking about:

http://www.azizshamanism.com/

I have ordered a full shamanic blackthorn bead necklace at £100 and he has also made me what is called an Angelic Khodam for extra strong protection, amongst other things, at £300. (See his "Magickal Items" on his website). Info about Khodams here:

http://www.indotalisman.com/Khodam.html

He's also going to scan my aura for attached spirits and remove them (exorcism). The tree spirits in the Shamanic necklace, and the Angelic Khodam, are there as kind of personal psychic body guards to stop any spirits re-attaching and block any further psychic-attacks.

If I'm going for it I may as well get the full treatment.  :wink:

It is a 4 and 1/2 hour journey either way costing me about £80, which leaves me about £10 to my name for 2 weeks. It's a bit of a gamble spending all the cash I have on this but I need to at least give this a shot to see if it works. I may be too tired to report back by the time I get home tonight, but will certainly do so tomorrow. Wish me luck.

SpectralDragon

Quote from: McArthurBecause I still have ongoing entity problems that seem to have been attached for some time. I found this Shaman that seems to really know what he's talking about:

http://www.azizshamanism.com/

I have ordered a full shamanic blackthorn bead necklace at £100 and he has also made me what is called an Angelic Khodam for extra strong protection, amongst other things, at £300. (See his "Magickal Items" on his website). Info about Khodams here:

http://www.indotalisman.com/Khodam.html

He's also going to scan my aura for attached spirits and remove them (exorcism). The tree spirits in the Shamanic necklace, and the Angelic Khodam, are there as kind of personal psychic body guards to stop any spirits re-attaching and block any further psychic-attacks.

If I'm going for it I may as well get the full treatment.  :wink:

It is a 4 and 1/2 hour journey either way costing me about £80, which leaves me about £10 to my name for 2 weeks. It's a bit of a gamble spending all the cash I have on this but I need to at least give this a shot to see if it works. I may be too tired to report back by the time I get home tonight, but will certainly do so tomorrow. Wish me luck.

You know, I would have done all of this for free. Shamans are healers, it's unworthy of them to charge money!

McArthur

Now you tell me, I'm off in 20 minutes. And I disagree about charging (even though I'm the one paying!) because even doctors earn a living so why not doctors of the spiritual kind? If he had to have a normal job to support his family he wouldn't have as much time helping others.

btw regarding your help, have you stopped darknights problems? Or got any feedback I can read for cases you've worked on? It's just that if you can do this sort of stuff then I'll remember you next time I come across someone needing help.

Walk in Beauty

McA

SpectralDragon

Quote from: McArthurNow you tell me, I'm off in 20 minutes. And I disagree about charging (even though I'm the one paying!) because even doctors earn a living so why not doctors of the spiritual kind? If he had to have a normal job to support his family he wouldn't have as much time helping others.

btw regarding your help, have you stopped darknights problems? Or got any feedback I can read for cases you've worked on? It's just that if you can do this sort of stuff then I'll remember you next time I come across someone needing help.

Walk in Beauty

McA

My cases are quite private, you know that. If you want to hear thier stories on how I work go to GOM and ask. (You are still a moderator BTW, were waiting for you to come back.) Frankly, though, I wonder if you did the same check on this guy, cuase I don't think from your "I hope this works" that you did.

About payment, I have explained this hundreds of times, at least twice to each person I help. I don't want it from anyone. Sometimes if they have a skill like web design I will ask for thier help, if they say no fine but because of my help they usually are willing. The reason for this is that if I charged, some people WOULD NOT GET HELP. A good amount of my cases don't have a dollar to thier name.

Its partially true about being held back at a normal job, but research mental projection and franz bardon, also mind split or split awareness.

BTW: If you wish to know of DK, she isn't completely out of her mess but at this point, she can fight back, and she is more in control. Her case is a bit....special. I won't go into any more than that.

Good Day my friend, and good luck with your healing.

-Jason

You

I'm with the side that doctors shouldn't charge money, especially shamans. First off: it leads to doctors being paid excessively high salaries like they are today. This leads to a sense of envy and mistrust with the doctors. Then you have specialists like brain surgeons who get too much money. All health care should be government regulated so doctors get paid less! :p

Li Yun

hi mcarthur i hope it went well down in sunny devon! i was there a few weeks ago seeing peter, it was in fact from you (via dark knight) that i heard about him. I do thinkit is worth spending the money, as he spends a large amount of time working on these things and he's got a family so of course he can charge, what on earth would he live on if he didnt? i think people should not see it as charging for the skills he has rarther the time it takes to use them, i mean he is very busy all the time so the only alternative would be to be on the dole...anyway due to my wayward  ways and curiosity at uni I ended up putting a hole in my aura at the brow and bass chakra fron using disaccociative substances...a lesson leart but he was very nice, not at all judgmental, and as soon as he started working a got what felt like a muscle spasm by the upper thigh, which was the attacment fighting back! i had no idea i t would happen straight away!! Anyway let us know how it went, i might go and see him as I wanted to give my friend who is a new dad a protection bead for the baby.

narfellus

I've chatted briefly with Peter Aziz via email once. He seemed like a nice fellow, and then by pure coincidence just a week later i saw him in a documentary called The Fairy Faith, where a filmmaker had recruited him to find fey in Ireland. As for charging, i'm in somewhat of a quandry about that. I'm not sure what the pound/dollar conversion is, but is Mr. Aziz making bundles, or is a reasonable charge for his time, effort and energy? On his website, it states that it can take many, many weeks to make the spirit-imbedded staffs. I don't know if he has secondary or tertiary income, but he has to make a living somehow. Then again, i'm thankful for people like Spectraldragon who are selfless with their time and gifts. You answered a lot of questions via Michael for me that were very useful.
If but we knew the power of our thoughts we would guard them more closely.

Andromache

I think the problem with spending money is that there are many frauds and inepts...the first exorcist I went to told me horror stories of people who lost their homes, life savings etc because they were desperate and had only the local swami down the street for help.

I'm sure your contact is a nice fellow, but there have got to be limits, and not everyone has money. Negs will often go after a persons luck and many people under neg attack lose a great deal, sometimes everything. Is a person's life worth turning away simply because they lack the funds?

I think I would just like to see more compassion and generosity for the suffering.

Sentential

BAH...be a real man and do it yourself :lol: Suuuure its a little painful, but hey pain is only temporary

<im only joking, it really was hell>

Chimerae

Healing is as complicated as the ways people manifest illness.  Some shamen charge, some do not.  Some of it has to do with their traditions, some with their calling.

I work with a Sioux medicine woman from the reservation and she charges.  It would be interesting to hear from people who work with healers from the lineage of tradional shamanic practices -- I'm betting most charge in some form appropriate for the culture.  African?  South American?    

Life has balance.  For my personal healing I prefer healers I can pay because it clean up the lines that run between us and creates a nice closure to the event.  The Universe does not always support my perference and I am "given" to frequently.  

For most of my life, I believed like many writing here that while it was okay for me to pay for healing, it was wrong for me to get paid.  I much prefer a different job in a completely unrelated field.  

My guides kept hammering me until I agreed to try accepting fees.

I had mainstream professionals who wanted to refer people to me but who needed a culturally approved mechanism.  One of them . . .a hospital administrator . . . finally went ahead and referred to me, and then called me up and TOLD me what she had done, what my fees were, and what the mundane structure should look like.  Umm . . . sure, okay.   It never occurred to me that some of the people most in need of what I can offer are so culturally imbedded that they would have no access without a culturally understandable doorway in the fee structure.  

No sense in preaching to the choir, eh?  

The most important thing I learned -- not here at AP but in the more mudane world -- is that often the benefit people get is linked to paying for the treatment.  It's somehow easier for people to focus, prioritize, and make room for the needed etheric change in their mundane life if the healing is grounded for them in the mundane through the familiar mundane ritual of payment.  People are better able to benefit if they pay.

Weird.

What I learned for the effectivenss of my own work was even more interesting.  Before I started charging, I didn't think I was overwhelmed and burned out.  It didn't seem like I was working with THAT many people.  

WRONG.  

I learned that about 2/3 of the people I was working with were not getting well partly because they enjoyed the connection and the drama of healing.  They were accustomed to their pain -- it wasn't like they were masochists but there was often an unconscious level of acceptance, so that it was tolerable.  It was especially more tolerable than confronting the homeostasis that kept them stuck.  Then I would come in and do what I do and they would experince tremendous relief.  I was helping keep them stuck by reducing the difficulty enough that their boat could stay afloat.

They kept me stuck because I was constantly tapped out -- and I was so accustomed to being completely exhausted and tapped out that I didn't even notice.  Not to mention how much lifeforce I wasted trying to do mudane things that I'm quite frankly not very good at, just to earn a living.    

And as for those 2/3 that were not really benefitting . . . I didn't cut anybody off.  It's just as I started working with paying clients, I noticed the difference and changed what I was doing to be more effective.

I also learned that my personal world was skewed -- I was disproportionally attracting "Takers" -- people who experience power on the planet by compulsively "getting" as much as they possibly could grab without the needful balance of give and take.  There was no room around me for people with better balance.  

I work both with and without fees now, but I am CONSCIOUS of the difference.  Because I'm conscious and paying attention, I'm more aware of where the balance is for me and for everyone else.  

Also, there are many forms of "payment"  Some of my clients "pay" by keeping a prayer practice in place for my benefit in whatever form of prayer their personal tradition dictates.    

One last thought . . .with due respect to the many excellent people freely sharing themselves and their gifts here.  This is out of my own experience:  Money is less costly to the soul than the covert "deal" of Master/Student, Shaman/Sickie that can so easily create a hidden vampiric energy/confidence syphon in the etheric and trap the "Master" in an icon identity.

narfellus

thank you for your insights, chimerae. I'd like to add that money in a sense is just energy, and that exchange might make more sense in some cultures/lifestyles than others. In the same vein, some people only respond to channellers if they are treated as children, as that is part of their learned response system. The same lessons must often be taught to different people with different methods.

QUOTE: "This is out of my own experience: Money is less costly to the soul than the covert "deal" of Master/Student, Shaman/Sickie that can so easily create a hidden vampiric energy/confidence syphon in the etheric and trap the "Master" in an icon identity."

And that i find very interesting.
If but we knew the power of our thoughts we would guard them more closely.

McArthur

Well I'm back. Let me just say first that the exorcism and healing session was free but I paid for the other items. The first time I saw him in 1997 I had a healing exorcism done for £20 and feel that anyone could be able to raise that amount, working or not (I wasn't working).

The healing session was really quite something and Peter is definitely channelling some very strong energies. He spent most the time with hands either side my head but I could also feel 'something' healing from my feet (very warm soft gentle energy). The entities didn't like what was going on at all, saying things such as "You bastard" etc. He was telling me what was happening as he did it. At first he flung one or two "Lower Astral" types (I will ask him more about this via email, I was so zoned out/ultra relaxed after the healing I couldn't talk much or think of what to ask) out of my aura but they kept jumping back in through the holes in my aura. So he then worked on patching my aura up first etc then 'squeezed' these entities out through one last hole (or something like that.)

I could feel them running around my body (well, it kind feels like outside your body maybe an inch above skin) as though being chased, it was very interesting. On my head I knew there was one entity because I had felt it there for a while (behind nose in nasal cavity, plus pin pricks at back of throat). And I could literally feel some kind of 'energy blob' being pushed out of my head by the area of my nose. He then corrected something in my aura and I was to sit upand let it work etc. I could feel most had gone but could still feel one left. Peter said the Khodam would be able to deal with that so we left it at that.

I have a small ritual I have to do with this Khodam to bind it to me that I was too tired to do when I got home. But I was practicing the mantra for it while in bed and could feel a very warm healing energy to the left side of my groin/thigh where I have some sort of wart. And fell asleep like that.

So next up is the Khodam ritual and to see if it gets rid of this entity that is left.

McArthur

SD:

"My cases are quite private, you know that. If you want to hear thier stories on how I work go to GOM and ask. (You are still a moderator BTW, were waiting for you to come back.) Frankly, though, I wonder if you did the same check on this guy, cuase I don't think from your "I hope this works" that you did."

When I said feedback, I meant off those you have helped. Please don't take it as though it's an insult, it wasn't meant to be. I've visited Peter before in 1997 so know what he can do. And the 'seeds of doubt' are sowed by the entities. i.e. If you don't think it will work then perhaps you won't bother trying it.

"The reason for this is that if I charged, some people WOULD NOT GET HELP. A good amount of my cases don't have a dollar to thier name."

Well good for you if that is what you choose to do. One can still do that and charge normally for those who can pay. I feel that the paying part helps because it shows how much that person wants that healing.

BTW, my Angelic Khodam took 41 days to make, hence the price. It is made by, and linked to, five different Angels for protection, spiritual growth, magikal empowerment, enforcement of my will and material assistance.
The ritual I will be doing bonds it to me and blends it into me so it is always there when needed (by drinking part of it as well as specially prepared capsules with powders and magic script in them, plus specially charged seeds and water). Kind of like a spirit guide, except a designer one that has been invoked for specific purposes. Then one repeats its mantra daily to strengthen it etc and get to know it/work with it. It can be used to assist in the healing and exorcism of others.

Sounds too good to be true doesn't it? Well, i'll let you know.  :wink:

Li Yun:
"what felt like a muscle spasm by the upper thigh,"

Had you felt anything like this before you visited him? And yes, I was getting spasms, tingling rushes, cold and warm etc. I could also hear them as I am Clairaudient, and they didn't sound too happy about being kicked out of my aura (losing their food source). But as he worked away on the healing it got quieter and quieter as they left.  It was a very very relaxing experience.

Andromache:
"I think the problem with spending money is that there are many frauds and inepts..."

Yes, very true. Which is why feedback is important. And perhaps making a list of those who one feels are genuine. It comes down to trial and error at times but once you find the Real Thing(tm) then you can pass the info onto others needing similar help.

" Is a person's life worth turning away simply because they lack the funds? "

I don't think most healers would do that, including the guy I visited. I paid because I could. Besides, what I paid for are specialist items that take time to make, the healing session was free.

Sentential:
"BAH...be a real man and do it yourself Laughing Suuuure its a little painful, but hey pain is only temporary "

Interesting comment as I do still have to do some of it myself using the aid of my Khodam. I had at the time wanted him to do it all for me but it is probably wiser this way.

Chimerae:
Excellent post!

McArthur

Sentential:
"BAH...be a real man and do it yourself Laughing Suuuure its a little painful, but hey pain is only temporary "

Just an additional comment: Exorcisms are not normally painful if done correctly. Mine was extremely relaxing with no pain whatsoever.

Sentential

Quote from: McArthurSentential:
"BAH...be a real man and do it yourself Laughing Suuuure its a little painful, but hey pain is only temporary "

Just an additional comment: Exorcisms are not normally painful if done correctly. Mine was extremely relaxing with no pain whatsoever.
Mine was more impromptu than anything else. I'd rather destroy my existence than allow that filthy piece of **** to take my life. Thats just how I operate.

Plus it happened like a car crash. Everything moved so quickly that it was purely instinct. Much better than nothing IMO

Andromache

QuoteI don't think most healers would do that, including the guy I visited. I paid because I could. Besides, what I paid for are specialist items that take time to make, the healing session was free.

I'm happy to hear that, but not everyone lacking money is a taker, anymore than everyone who is improverished is a criminal or drug addict. It's very unfair.

And many people can't tell the difference between a real healer and the swami inept down the street.

And in all honesty, there is one way to stop from being overwhelmed, you say, "No I can't right now" and you prioritize according to who is wounded more and who is less.

Chimerae

I'm happy to hear that, but not everyone lacking money is a taker, anymore than everyone who is improverished is a criminal or drug addict. It's very unfair.

And many people can't tell the difference between a real healer and the swami inept down the street.

And in all honesty, there is one way to stop from being overwhelmed, you say, "No I can't right now" and you prioritize according to who is wounded more and who is less.[/quote]

My God NO!.  Not everyone lacking money is a Taker!!!  In no way did I mean to imply that.  In fact, my experience is that it's the people with money who are most often begging piteously and sincerely for no charge support, because they can't imagine life with one jot less of their disposable income to support their various culturally approved addictions, many of which contribute to the illness in the first place.  

An "inept swami down the street" is no less dangerous at no charge.

"No, I can't right now" frightens off many of the people most in need of help -- they've heard "NO" too many times before and won't come back.  It escalates the Takers into upping the ante to make their need a higher priority.  Among suicides, some are those who hit the Wall and found no one there, some are people who were "crying out for help" and miscalculated on the timing of the person who was supposed to show up at the last second.  

And that is in NO way a critique of how desperate the point of suicide really is . . . the pain is real, even if it's a miscalcualtion.  The wounds are real.

I have had a terrible time with money.  Correcting that unbalance in myself has been and continues to be a part of my healing and growth process.  I would NEVER have tried Feng Shui if I hadn't been desperate for some quality essential oils that I simply couldn't afford.  The Feng Shui work I did, to this day still very rough and primitive, helped not only my prosperity but also positively impacted other areas of my life.

If we believe that the etheric can effect physical healing, why would we presume that the etheric cannot also help to balance our economic imbalance.  If we continue to be unwilling to heal our personal economies, how can we expect the larger world economy to get better?  If the "spiritually enlightened" refuse to get their hands dirty touching money, then we create a distortion where money can ONLY reside in the hands of the least enlightened.  

How benevolent is that to force them to carry such a burden?

McArthur

Quote from: Sentential
Much better than nothing IMO
Oh yes, I agree. And you are lucky you were able to do it for yourself. I only mentioned it in case anyone reading got the impression that exorcisms are painful.

SpectralDragon

Quote from: McArthurSD:

"My cases are quite private, you know that. If you want to hear thier stories on how I work go to GOM and ask. (You are still a moderator BTW, were waiting for you to come back.) Frankly, though, I wonder if you did the same check on this guy, cuase I don't think from your "I hope this works" that you did."

When I said feedback, I meant off those you have helped. Please don't take it as though it's an insult, it wasn't meant to be. I've visited Peter before in 1997 so know what he can do. And the 'seeds of doubt' are sowed by the entities. i.e. If you don't think it will work then perhaps you won't bother trying it.

No offense Taken my friend, I was just saying I can't disclose that information without thier consent ;)

QuoteWell, i'll let you know.

Please do :)

GorillaBait

Quote from: ChimeraeIf the "spiritually enlightened" refuse to get their hands dirty touching money, then we create a distortion where money can ONLY reside in the hands of the least enlightened.

Sorry to interject, but that was beautiful.

Anyway, for me the problem is trying to figure out if I genuinely need help or if I simply need to grow the courage to help myself.  A combination of the two, probably.  I keep looking for answers externally, I really should look for them internally.

I think what I really need is someone to help me help myself.

Andromache

If you can't tell, I'm on the side of the suffering. As long as the suffering are treated equitably, I have no problem. Too often they are blamed for the inequality and no responsibility is assumed on the part of the people with the power.

It's as if it becomes the job of the suffering to make those in power feel comfortable, which I find disgusting.

McArthur

Well I did the Khodam ritual, chanted for a few hours, and went to bed. As I was laying in bed I thought I would try and see if the Khodam was there so I put its bead on my brow chakra laying on my back. I hadn't wanted to talk to it via clairaudience at present because I have been fooled b4 by spirits pretending to be what they are not and the trauma related to those experiences makes me very apprehensive about opening up clairaudiently to any kind of spirit (the memories of the associated traumas give me a kind of anxiety--obviously a kind of 'Core Image' attachment that needs working on).

But I began to feel some kind of positive energy and heard a faint very slowly spoken voice that "felt" (it's hard to describe) ok. Plus various warm energy feelings in various places. So I asked it if it was the Khodam and I think it said yes (like I say it was very faint at first, especially because I wouldnt open up to it). I explained the situation of why I don't trust spirits etc and had a short conversation I won't go into (I was told things like "God loves you" etc.) along with very intense, but gentle, all over body tingling rushes. I then had what felt like a healing session done on me (I could feel very warm energy at my feet) and could again feel some kind of energy blob around my nose/nose cavity that was perhaps slightly throbbing and felt like the Khodam was trying to 'squeeze' it out. But as I relaxed this time I could feel that this blob of energy wasn't just around my nose. It was as though I was having revealed to me where else it was etc.

There is a line/cord of 'energy' going from my nose, nose cavity, down through the roof of my mouth to the back of my throat and out through the back of my neck (I have had a lump on the back of my neck for as long as I can remember). There also felt like connecting cords that led to my inner ears either side. I've attempted to draw what I felt and where (see link) with the yellow spots being the areas I felt most active (the one at the back of throat is around where I had been getting pin prick sensations.)
edit: The cord going to the back of my throat perhaps goes down to my throat chakra as I feel some kind of energy there at the front my neck also (where I have a small pink mole with a hair growing out of it).  It kind of feels like there is a tube pushed up my nose coming out at the back of, and down, my throat (as well as out through the back of my neck). And the point at the nose/cavity is slightly larger.

http://www.angelfire.com/me/kabakhu23/stuff.html

I have felt energy sensations in my nose cavity and  inner ears b4 but hadn't realized there was a line/cord connecting them until last night. I get a constant tinnitus white-noise buzzing energy sound in my ears that I feel is related to the attachment points there. So I've noted all that ready to work on it.

So then me and the "Khodam" (I'm still not 100% sure it was that that I contacted) said "goodnite". And that's it so far.
Oh! I told it perhaps it might be better to try and meet it Astrally or in a Dream and if it could help me get OOBE... it seemed to say yes...  and as I was falling asleep (I was quite tired) I "fell" asleep then a split-second later all of a sudden fully awake again... and not tired. Not quite sure what that was.

McArthur

addendum to above: There also seems to be an attachment point in the centre of my chest/heart chakra. I've had a small grisly lump there for years also (tried the circled cross but didnt seem to work, although I perhaps didn't do it for long enough). I'm not sure if the others connect to that or if it is separate (I was mainly concentrating on head area last night.).

Anonymous

McArthur--

Aren't you even the slightest bit nervous about allowing another entity into your space?  After my experience, and hearing about yours, I would never do that.  

I contacted Aziz via email and he told me he would get back to me and then never did.  I assume a distance healing would not be near as affective, although I did send a picture.  I would rather personally meet my "healer" anyway.

Please keep us updated with your progress.  And if this last one does not leave, or more keep entering, let us know that too.  We are all learning how they operate, and the more truth we share the better.  Keeping silent is what keeps them in power.

All the best.

McArthur

Quote from: kailiMcArthur--

Aren't you even the slightest bit nervous about allowing another entity into your space?  After my experience, and hearing about yours, I would never do that.  
Yes... but I'm running out of options and sick of having to put up with entity trouble for so long. So I'm willing to try almost anything. And it seems to be working. Khodams are sort of Angelic (or at least a kind of Light Being) and having had conversations with Aziz, and read up about Khodams, I feel pretty confident that he knows what he's doing and that it is safe. I guess it's a small leap of faith in a way but I've also followed certain signs along the way that led me to the decision.

Really, the most difficult part is making sure I don't open up to a neg thinking its the Khodam, as negs are quite good at pretending to be helping spirits.

If it was a spirit that just turned up 'out the blue' and claimed to be my 'spirit guide' I wouldn't want to know because that's how I got into this mess in the first place...   but this Khodam is specifically invoked to help and serve me and I set the rules etc.
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I contacted Aziz via email and he told me he would get back to me and then never did.
Was this recently? He's had some pc trouble.
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 I assume a distance healing would not be near as affective, although I did send a picture.
It doesn't make any difference I don't think. Healing is done from beyond space and time.
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I would rather personally meet my "healer" anyway.
Yes it's always a bonus to meet physically I guess. Too many hucksters over the net imo.
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Please keep us updated with your progress.  And if this last one does not leave, or more keep entering, let us know that too.  We are all learning how they operate, and the more truth we share the better.  Keeping silent is what keeps them in power.
Will do. I'm getting some insights today of how negs possibly somehow connect to the Central Nervous System, something which I think Robert Bruce thinks may be what happens in certain cases.

And there's something about Tinnitus I'm looking into...

http://tinyurl.com/3zgva
"but they were there all the time and were very disturbing in the beginning because they really knew how to get my attention!"

http://epl.meei.harvard.edu/~ral/LevineFremantle.pdf