90-Day Trial: Achieve an Out of Body Experience

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michaelsaganski

I am going to do a 90-day trial to achieve my first out of body experience (OBE).

History

For the past 10 years I've had an off and on interest in astral projection. I first heard about the concept in high school when I looked up a psy-trance music group that I was interested in at the time, which were aptly called "Astral Projection". Naturally, a Google search for those two words led me to the other meaning – out of body experience.

I became quite interested in the topic and read a couple books on the subject. I tried some techniques and had some interesting experiences but I never fully got there. For whatever reason I lost interest for a while and decided to put OBE's on the back burner.

Over the years I'd periodically regain some interest, read more about it, and try some techniques. Without much initial success I became impatient and would move on to other things. For whatever reason though, I found myself coming back to the concept over and over. Eventually I came across the work done by Robert Monroe, and read his three books:

   1. Journeys Out of the Body
   2. Far Journeys
   3. Ultimate Journey

I was completely blown away. The stories were so amazing I wondered how anyone could make them up. Then I discovered that the institute he created, The Monroe Institute, was still alive and going strong. Supposedly, people are learning how to do this all the time!

I decided that it was worth pursuing completely. As I've matured I've realized that anything worth doing usually takes persistence and patience. This 90-day trial also fits into Steve Pavlina's success strategy of 30-day trials, so I've decided to really give this my all and see if I really am "more than my physical body".

Strategy

The plan I will be using is from Robert Bruce's and Brian Mercer's book, "Mastering Astral Projection" (MAP). That book provides a 90-day guide to having an out of body experience, which includes:

    * affirmations
    * writing in a journal
    * dream recall
    * relaxation exercises
    * breath work
    * mind taming (i.e. meditation)
    * energy work (i.e. chakras)
    * binaural beats
    * exit techniques

I have read many books on out of body experiences but I've never come across one with such a structured, day-by-day guide. I feel like this book will help stack the deck in my favor, giving me the best possible chance at an OBE. Note that each day will be different, so it differs from typical 30-day habit forming trials.

The plan is to follow the book as closely as possible to see its effectiveness. However, since I haven't read the entire book yet I can't guarantee I'll follow it completely. One basic change I'll have to make from the start is that some exercises that are meant to be done in the afternoon will likely be done in the morning, due to my schedule.

For the most part I'm coming into this trial as a newbie. I've been doing some meditating everyday for the past few weeks which will help with taming my mind, but that's about it.

MAP itself suggests reading other books during this trial, to really saturate the subconscious mind, so I've queued up:

    * Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce (read about 50% so far at the time of this posting)
    * Adventures Beyond the Body and The Secret of the Soul by William Buhlman
    * Voyages into the Unknown, Volume 1 by Bruce Moen (I will probably get the other 4 volumes as wanted)

I've also signed up to various forums and communities about Astral Projection/OBE's to try and soak up as much knowledge as I can about the subject.

Motivation

So why am I doing this? Well some people might say that it's all just mind games, but I believe it could lead to a verification of the after-life. At the very least, I will have much more evidence supporting the belief that I am more than my physical body.

Lately I've been exploring what spirituality is, as I used to be an atheist. I am a pretty left-brained and a scientific/analytical type of mind, so this type of verification of a spiritual topic would be a huge validation of my beliefs. It's one thing to believe that you have a "spirit", but it's an entirely different thing to know.

I feel like astral projection is almost like a Pandora's Box for me, which could lead to a very cool spiritual journey. Some people may think it's weird or question the whole point of exploring anything not in the "real world". I could probably write a whole post on that point of view, but I think that growing consciously is really the whole point of life to begin with. Why close your mind off from the whole package?

Other than that, I just find this topic interesting even as a mental exercise. I'm also a pretty curious person, and I like exploring topics that are on the edges of social norms.

Public Posting

I will be posting about my experiences over the 90 days. According to the book, each week will contain a different focus so posts will be weekly at the very least. I'll try to post daily as long as there is something interesting to report.

I'm making this experience public for many reasons, which includes:

    * increasing my chances for success. Having people read and rely on my progress will give me extra motivation to follow through with the whole 90 days.
    * exposing more of who I really am, and what I am interested in. I'm sure I'll attract other like-minded individuals who I can share and grow with.
    * helping others who want to explore out of body experiences. This is a pretty nice topic, so the more information out there, the better.
    * having writing from a newbies point of view. Writing's on how to achieve an OBE from the perspective of a person who has them regularly is never the same as one starting from the beginning.

Wish me luck. I'll be starting day 1 this weekend. I'd be happy to read your thoughts. :)

Asi911


WASD

A great goal :) I am a bit annoyed about this music group "Astral Projection" since they show up when i search for AP on youtube, but it helped you^^ So overall its a good name that will spread AP to more people then you aswell.
First and only (classic) OBE so far: 12th August 2009
LDs: Once per week :)

michaelsaganski

As I prepare for my 90-day OBE trial that I start tomorrow, I decided I'd write about some of the structure of the trial and what I've done to prepare so far.

Weekly Structure

The organization of Mastering Astral Projection (MAP) is broken down into weeks. Each week focuses on a different aspect of the projection process, gradually increasing in complexity. I'm not sure if a week is enough time to "master" each topic, but it is a good starting point.

The first 6 weeks focus on all of the important skills before an actual exit attempt is made, such as:

    * breath awareness
    * mind taming
    * energy work
    * entering a trance state

I will go into greater detail for each skill as I practice them. After week 6, exit strategies and all the problems or difficulties that can come up are discussed. The main point of all this is that even if I make rapid progress, it will still be 6 weeks before I even attempt an OBE.

Preparation Done So Far

Week 1 starts off strong with an introduction to many of the practices required for reliable astral projection.

I've set up a meditation space in my home that features a sofa chair for the majority of my practice. An egg timer is close by to help with the timing, as well as some incense to help associate the space with the purpose of relaxation/meditation. There is also a hard-backed chair, soft-backed chair, and an extra bed nearby.

MAP recommends keeping a dream journal to help with dream and OBE recall. I've been doing this already for the past several weeks on my own and have been moderately successful in jotting down keywords from my dreams. During the 90-day trial, I'll be posting my keywords and whatever I can remember from my dreams here as well.

I will be using the BrainWave Generator (bwgen) as directed in MAP to help with the practice. Previously, I've experimented with other binaural beats/brainwave entrainment technology such as Holo-Sync, Hemi-Sync, and have found them to be quite helpful with meditation. Luckily, I have an audio extension cable to get the output from bwgen on my computer to headphones in the meditation space.

The daily affirmation MP3's from MAP are loaded into my iPod and I'll listen to the appropriate one in the morning/evening. Every little bit helps!

Expectations

I'm pretty excited but I'm also feeling a little unsure of myself. By making this so public I risk making failure public as well, and not too many people enjoy that! At the very least, going through this exercise will be a huge growth experience for me. Not only in perseverance, but also in expression and courage. C'est la vie.

michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 1

Program Notes/Observations:

The Brainwave Generator isn't as pleasant to listen to as Hemi-Sync or Holo-Sync, because there isn't any sort of music overlaid on top of the binaural beats. That's ok though, it definitely seems effective so far.

The relaxation exercises are pretty easy, but Robert Bruce seems to stress the importance of them so I will definitely keep working on them.

Breath awareness has been difficult for me as I have a pretty active "monkey mind", and I find my that my mind wanders quite a bit. I've been meditating for many weeks now so it's not like this is a new experience to me either. I imagine my breath awareness would be even worse if I was starting it for the first time today.

Energy body stimulation through the use of "tactile imaging", which is something Robert Bruce coined, is pretty neat. Basically you try to focus your body awareness on a single area of your body, like your big toe. You can scratch or poke your big toe to help with focusing on it. Then you can shift your body awareness to other areas of your body. I only did this for about 5 minutes today but as I write this I still feel the tingling sensations from doing this.

Dream Keywords: web design, business, gift for parents, mix up/same gift with girlfriend

I remembered two separate dreams last night. One was related to having a business on the web, and the other had something to do with a gift for my parents. Sadly I can't recall any more details than that.

ridin0nthewind

hey there michaelsaganski, im actually starting Mastering astral projection today haha, hence why i've stumbled across your post, as i was looking for some success stories of using the book here on the forums, i'll be sure to let you know if i make any progress, let me know if you do too!

Its pretty exciting, and im sure it will pay off with dedication. good luck

personalreality

It takes very very strong discipline.  I tried it like 10 times.  Once I got most of the way through it.  Still didn't really help me exit.  It sure helped me with my energy work, trance states, lucid dreaming and the overall mind state of the projector, all of which actually helped me tremendously in my later ventures of true exits.  But at the time, I didn't AP while I used the book.  USE THE BRAINWAVE GENERATOR!!  I had so many lucid dreams with that program.  I still use it from time to time today.
be awesome.

kurtykurt42

I've done the 90 day program several times over the past 5 years. I still use many of the things I have earned from that book but I don't think I have mastered astral projection yet.  :-D

michaelsaganski

Yeah I won't be disappointed if I don't AP from doing the 90 day program... because I'm sure I'll make a lot of progress regardless how far I get. As long as there is progress I will be happy. :)

It's good to hear that some have tried it and have had some form of success.

WASD

Quote from: kurtykurt42 on March 16, 2010, 00:28:54
I don't think I have mastered astral projection yet.  :-D
I don't think anyone has or ever will :roll:
First and only (classic) OBE so far: 12th August 2009
LDs: Once per week :)

michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 2

Program Notes/Observations:

    * I was able to relax a little bit deeper with bwgen, although I'm still having trouble clearing my thoughts when focusing on breath awareness.
    * More muscles were tensed/relaxed today for body relaxation today, and I'm thinking this is a trend in the book.
    * Energy work focused on sponging/brushing body awareness on my thumbs. It worked pretty well for me without any difficulties, and I felt tingling/buzzing in my thumbs because of it. It's a very peculiar reaction to just pure thought, and it even lasts for a good few minutes after I've stopped thinking about it.

Dream Notes:

    * Keywords: backpack, garage door
    * I remember something about my garage being broken into with me being close by. There were more details but I've forgotten them now.
    * I really have to get into the habit of fleshing out my keywords into better descriptions as soon as I write the keywords down. I find myself forgetting the details behind the keywords when I come back to write more later. I find it pretty difficult to force myself to write just after waking up.

-JD-

I've just started the 90 guide as well.

I'm on day 3 :-D

the furthest I've come so far is being able to relax myself to the point where I can barely feel my body, I have a slight off balance feeling, and I can feel slight surging sensations.

Clearing my mind is definitely the hardest part so far...everytime I finally start getting into the right state of mind I'll think about it, which ruins it.


michaelsaganski

Quote from: -JD- on March 16, 2010, 20:19:41
I've just started the 90 guide as well.

I'm on day 3 :-D

the furthest I've come so far is being able to relax myself to the point where I can barely feel my body, I have a slight off balance feeling, and I can feel slight surging sensations.

Clearing my mind is definitely the hardest part so far...everytime I finally start getting into the right state of mind I'll think about it, which ruins it.


Great to hear I've got a peer. :)

Ya clearing my mind is definitely the trickiest part for me.

michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 3

Program Notes/Observations:

    * I should note that I've been doing the afternoon exercises in the evening after work. I won't be doing any morning work until the exit techniques start coming up.
    * While listening to bwgen, I use the time for meditation where I focus on my breath. I was especially tired today because I had just finished working out, so I found it easier to relax. There was a point today where the darkness I typically see with my closed eyes got brighter and became a more pure/solid color. That was pretty interesting but as soon as I focused on it, it slipped away. I felt a little different when that happened, but it's hard to describe other than using the word "good" or "peaceful".
    * While doing the energy work on my right thumb I found that my left thumb would start tingling, just like MAP says it might. I didn't read about that until after it happened, so that was some helpful validation of my experience. I even felt my other fingers start to tingle as well.
    * Body awareness of my big toes was harder than my thumbs.

Dream Notes:

    * Keywords: table, chair, family, angry, apologize
    * I keep seeing one of my best childhood friends' parents in my dreams, and they always seem to be there to tell me something. This is probably the 4th or 5th time it has happened recently. I don't really understand why it's those people in particular though giving me these messages. I usually end up forgetting the message by the time I wake up, although not always. One particular message was something along the lines of "People are different colors", which I believe was another way of saying that everyone is different, unique, and yet the same. Another message had to do with peace between nations.
    * The particular dream I remembered today was me arguing over something with close friends and family at a table. I got frustrated, got up from the table, and pushed the chair in. Immediately afterward, for whatever reason, I understood and apologized... then woke up.

One thing I should add that's worth mentioning is that I had a bit of an intuitive/psychic event happen to me. As I sat down to use my 4-year old Xbox 360 for media streaming I had this weird thought about the Xbox 360 breaking and how it was a single point of failure for me. I usually don't think about that so I thought it was a weird thought. Sure enough, I got the red ring of death shortly after I turned the Xbox on and had to get it replaced.

-JD-

Quote from: michaelsaganski on March 17, 2010, 11:01:58
There was a point today where the darkness I typically see with my closed eyes got brighter and became a more pure/solid color. That was pretty interesting but as soon as I focused on it, it slipped away. I felt a little different when that happened, but it's hard to describe other than using the word "good" or "peaceful".

This same thing happened to me today as well.

I was laying down and concentrating on my breathing, and doing some energy stimulation in my feet. (day 3 of the program) After about 30 minutes I got into a good trance state and as soon as I did, I felt my consciousness suddenly "shift". It was like my consciousness fell away form my body for a split second (almost like when you nod off to sleep but catch yourself, only I was fully aware of it happening) As soon as this "shift" happened I got very noticeable falling sensations rush through my body. As soon as the shift happened though, I noticed it, and then lost the feelings. This happened another 2 times over a period of about 15 minutes.

so hopefully that means I'm making progress

michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 4

Program Notes/Observations:

    * The relaxation I(stretching) exercises basically went through my whole body this time. No difficulties there.
    * BWGen worked well again but I did not go as deep as yesterday, likely because I didn't work out right beforehand.
    * The energy work/body awareness today spread to all the toes. The tingling was super intense after the exercise, almost like my toes were on fire. There's definitely something unusual going on with tactile imaging!

Dream Notes:

    * Dream Keywords: Steve Pavlina, battle against really big guy, internet, warehouse
    * The first dream is a little too personal so I'm leaving it out. The second dream involved me stuck in a warehouse all of a sudden, and then a really big guy faced me. He was approaching me and I felt like he was going to attack me. I decided not to fight him and got out.. somehow.
    * I'm not sure what's with all the more negative/intense dreams lately. Usually they're not like that.



Fresco

I'd stay away from warehouses next few days if I were you  :lol:

michaelsaganski

:)

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 5

Program Notes/Observations:

    * While I was relaxing with bwgen I slipped into a couple mini-dreams that I quickly forgot after I remembered to focus on my breath. It was different from a normal dream though, because I was still aware of my body as I was having the dream. It's hard to describe exactly how I was aware of my body yet not lucid in my dream.
    * The energy work/body awareness focused on both of my feet in their entirety. This was pretty intense, my feet almost felt like they were on fire by the end of it. The tingling and buzzing were very strong. Robert Bruce says this is normal when you're just starting out though, because I'm clearing out energy blockages. It's neat to be able to already verify what he says will happen with my own real experience, because this sort of intense tingling feeling isn't something I'd expect to happen.

Dream Notes:

    * Dream Keywords: APEGM dinner, tammerism?, discussion in engineering, video game for sale
    * One of my dreams involved me sitting at a dinner table with my professional engineering peers, although I did not recognize anyone from the physical world. For whatever reason, words that don't even exist kept being brought up throughout the dream. One of them was "tammerism", and for whatever reason I thought I understood what that meant in the dream... but not now of course. There were other weird words but I do not remember them.

I finished Astral Dynamics and have started reading Bruce Moen's first book. I also coincidentally received a shipment from Amazon with some fresh new books. They are:

    * Adventures Beyond the Body
    * The Secret of the Soul
    * The Power of Now
    * Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming

Needless to say I've got a full plate of reading for the next while. :)

Bruce Moen's book is already pretty intense, and is way over my head. Not in the sense of me having trouble understanding it, but rather it would be something  more appropriate to me once I've had more OBE experience. I flipped through "Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming" and I think I will read it first,  because it seems like it does a better job of bridging the gap between science and the paranormal. In other words, it feels more "entry level" to me. I've ordered Bruce Moen's Guidebook today, so I will be working through that once it arrives.

I'm also building the habit of doing frequent reality checks during the day, so that I can do it during a dream and become lucid.

-JD-

I just got done day 5's exercises as well.

My feet didn't feel as if they were on fire, but definitely some strong tingling in my feet.  :-D

michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 6

Program Notes/Observations:

    * Energy work and body awareness on both of my entire legs today. The energy work keeps getting more intense each day. Both of my legs were tingling and the soles of my feet felt like they were on fire almost. My feet are still tingling as I write this.
    * I am now fully relaxing my body as per the guidelines in MAP.

Dream Notes:

    * I didn't remember any dreams last night! :( I'm not too sure why. Some mornings I just wake up and they're gone.




michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 7

Program Notes/Observations

    * Energy work implemented "body bouncing" awareness in my legs. This feeling was pretty cool, you can definitely sense the energy movement through your legs.
    * Week 2 is coming up! I'm getting a little anxious to actually do some OBE exit techniques but taking it slow is probably best.

Dream Notes

    * This was a doozy. The relevant part to share was that I was in my bathroom during the dream looking at myself in the mirror. For whatever reason my dream mind suddenly asked to have an OBE. I looked away from the mirror, concentrated, and looked back at the mirror. In my astonishment I looked about 20 years older. Wrinkly but with a full head of grey hair, almost like Jay Leno haha. I became scared and said "ok ok, I get the point, please put me back" and everything was back to normal... in my dream that is.
    * The second part to the dream was me having a plugged toilet. I interpreted this as me trying to shed my old beliefs, but there's so much of it that it's getting clogged and will take time to get rid of. But I don't really know if that's what was meant, of course.

-JD-

I'm still having trouble clearing my mind.

No matter how relaxed I get, that little voice in my head keeps talking every now and then  :-(

haha.

michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Week 2 Day 8

So I'm into week 2 now. The focus this week will be on enhancing the breathing exercises, calming the mind, and energy work for the upper body.

Program Notes/Observations:

    * I'm finding that the energy bouncing in my legs causes various leg muscles to twitch. It definitely feels like something is changing when I do this.
    * It was a little tough to bring body awareness to the back-side of my fingers. The sensations weren't as intense as my feet were.
    * Increasing the depth of my breath during the breath awareness exercise felt pretty good.
    * While I was listening to bwgen, I would say "astral" to myself on an inhale and "projection" during the exhale, as suggested in MAP. I found this helped me to stay alert, although I did catch myself starting to daydream a few times still.

Dream Notes:

    * No dreams remembered this time again. I went out last night and did a little drinking/partying. I think the alcohol definitely affected my dream recall, for the worse.


michaelsaganski

OBE/Astral Projection Trial Day 9

Program Notes/Observations

    * I found it really hard to find the time to do all the exercises today. I probably rushed through them a little faster than I should have. It almost seemed like the universe was conspiring to derail my practice today.
    * Energy work moved to the arms, I didn't feel too much tingling there, just a localized heaviness.

Dream Notes:

    * Wow, I remembered around 5-6 dreams last night! I wrote a full page of notes in my journal but I'm not going to write it all out here.
    * In one of the dreams, there were about 4 people who had attracted attention in a crowd. Someone said something about making them levitate, so I thought "what the heck, I'll try and make one of them levitate". So I closed my dream eyes and focused hard. I heard some voices and then saw some weird (hypnagogic?) imagery with some very cool sounds. I think I might have felt a slight falling sensation, I'm not too sure. Next thing I know I try to open my eyes in the dream but it turns out I woke up.
    * I think one of my dream symbols is a video game/computer screen. They seem to show up in my dreams quite a bit. Perhaps I need to start doing reality checks whenever I look at a screen.

-JD-

Quote from: michaelsaganski on March 21, 2010, 23:51:53
    * I'm finding that the energy bouncing in my legs causes various leg muscles to twitch. It definitely feels like something is changing when I do this.


This happens to me as well. Whenever I start doing leg work, random muscles start twitching in different spots throughout the exercise. It's distracting because I'm not sure If it's my muscles responding to the energy work, or if I'm actually tensing my muscles accidentally because I'm focusing so much on the specific area. (I'm pretty sure I'm not tensing, but it's hard to tell sometimes  :-D)