URGENT HELP NEEDED!! I AM IN BIG TROUBLE!!

[Shrikrishna]

A large part of my job is helping people counteract what they believe to be magical attacks against them.

do you have  a website of your own?? i mean is there any way i can contact you?

[personalreality]

no.  i work at a metaphysical bookshop, so i help my customers.  it's partially for sales, they buy the supplies they would need for such a job.  however, quite often i find a way for them to do it without having to buy anything because i refuse to use my counseling to boost sales, it's just not what i'm about.  but, i will offer any advice i may have that could help here on the forums.  just PM me and i can try to help, at least tell you what i'd do.

[Lucidmage]

Astral project and find your spirit guide. I believe that's what is protecting from all these troubles. By the way, your dad is going to die a horrorble death if he doesn't stop. The only light waiting for him at the end of the tunnel will be mighty hot.

[Shrikrishna]

By the way, your dad is going to die a horrorble death if he doesn't stop. The only light waiting for him at the end of the tunnel will be mighty hot.

i agree with what you have said because its the same thing many spiritualists said to us ...... many people have said that he wont die in a easy manner..

[Shrikrishna]

Astral project and find your spirit guide. I believe that's what is protecting from all these troubles.

hm... ok thats not a bad idea but the problem is that will i encounter any black magic attack on me the moment i enter astral plane? because as earlier i told you iam attacked by black magic and i doubt that might attract not so pleasant astral entities .... what is your opinion about this??

[GodsProxy]

Shrikrishna,

I feel your pain.
Curses, black magic, and hexes are real. They are all based in evil concepts and get their power from terror and fear.
First defense is not to be afraid. Fear is used as a weapon by them. You will feel their black magic on your skin as they cast you. Be not afraid, for help is at hand.
I will stand with you against him.
I am a magician of the unconventional sorts. I have outcast a high black witch using my own brand of White Magic, magic based in Love and Light.
PM me, I will personally assist you in casting against this person.

Love and courage,

Neil

PLEASE PEOPLE HELP ME HERE, I AM IN URGENT NEED OF HELP.....

[GodsProxy]

Never cast black magic against someone even in return, that makes you guilty of casting black magic. Black magic gets its power from evil.
We get our power from Love and Light. It is far stronger by magnitudes than black magic. Don't even return his spells to him. That is unloving.
He is exempt from karma, because being orientated towards evil, he is rewarded by doing evil deeds.
Now something important to note: being on the side of Good and Love, you need to be especially cautious in being good to everything around you. Any little slip ups, no matter how small, and by the law of karma, you are more effect of his spells. Nice one hey?
Try to be nice to him if you speak to him telephonically. Sure hate him in your mind but not face to face with him. Don't acknowledge to him (if you have already it doesn't matter) that you know he is casting you.
Then, together with me, we will cast him with all our love and righteousness, on the same level you are being affected by black magic, he can be punished by Love magic.

I Agree with you milesB , even some astrologers suggested to us the same thing , but now i am here with a new question, he has been casting black magic spells almost daily for more than 7 years now , how come that evil/bad karma hasn't effected/affected him in anyway??

[GodsProxy]

Shrikrishna
You don't have to learn to AP in order to cast this guy. Believe me, he isn't casting you directly on the astral. Your spirit is getting hit on the astral, though.
If you project, you will be too unconscious in order to effectively either defend yourself or to attack him.
Depending on his level he might be very aware on the astral, and this can make it dangerous to project anywhere near him. He can hit you on the astral and do some serious damage to your astral body.
He cannot hit you nearly as badly when you are firmly encased in your physical "protection".
As you learn to cast Love magic, you will become more aware of beings on the astral.
I recommend that you Cast by power of Will (Postulate) based in Love and Light, in normal reality circumstances.
I do not know Magick, but I do not think it is based in Love and Light. If not, then I recommend using Love magic above Magick.

[Lizelle]

Hi Shrikrishna,

It's really unfortunate what has befallen you and your family.  I can tell you one thing though, none of which has happened to you is due to black magic.  This man has just really got into your head in a very psychological way... that needs to be cut off.  I don't believe the Astral Plane isn't going to help you here.

You'll need to find a more "physical reality" solution to your problems. 

I agree Xanth, and it's also possible the stalker/father is actually poisoning the family or something along those lines. Anything from arsenic to a hallucinogen. Maybe they're even being microwaved. Get them declared mentally incompetent, power of attorney... I don't know much about Indian culture but this sounds like classic controlling behavior and psychological warfare from someone who can't admit they were wrong. JMO here.

Shrikrishna would it be possible to hire a private detective (or get a friend) to see what your father is really up to? I have a sneaking suspicion that crimes are being committed, and then you can report him to the authorities. Or, perhaps he's doing nothing at all, and you can then try to figure out the real source of your family's trouble. That's the only suggestion I have in the non-astral realm. I don't have enough experience to answer your original question.
Oh, and go see your doctor for a complete physical.

[GodsProxy]

Experts on magic insisting there is no magic LOL

I agree Xanth, and it's also possible the stalker/father is actually poisoning the family

[Summerlander]

PLEASE PEOPLE HELP ME HERE, I AM IN URGENT NEED OF HELP..... ok let me gimme my short intro... I am a 20yrs old guy... my parents got separated from each other when i was just 10yrs old... from then onwards i live with my mother.... i have no contact with him since then but my parents have are not divorced... now the real problem starts here.. my father is into black magic for over 10 yrs now... he is cursing us our whole family now for more than 10years..... i have lost hope in life... we tried our best to sort out this problem but nothing is helping us... he has carried out all kinds of black magic upon us but don't know how we have survived till date.... it looks like a miracle to us.... we are very much emotionally disturbed....now i feel me and my family's only chance to get out of this is Astral Projection... do u think it is advisable for me to learn this astral projection in this type of situation?? also till date i had many out of body experiences ... not to mention that once i saw my father in graveyard at around 3.00am with another person doing nasty things targeting us.... so my question to u is should i go for astral projection? will i have any problem there , because i have read many books on astral projection and i am scared that because of my vibrations i many end up in lower planes, this is what is scaring me from trying to do it.... so people please help me, please serious genuine replies only.... sorry for a long post .... Thank you.

What makes you believe that your father is cursing you with black magic, Shrikrishna? Also, have no fear and you won't manifest any "lower planes". Lower planes only exist in the minds of those who believe in such things. Should you go for astral projection? Absolutely, it could provide you with some helpful insights about you and those that surround you, it can also be great fun. But you must enter the state free of preconceived ideas. Just be the explorer rather than jumping to conclusions about the nature of things.

Btw, ether2, there is nothing "magical" about astral projection.

[ether2]

Btw, ether2, there is nothing "magical" about astral projection.

WT...

where did i even say that?

agreed...astral projection is not "magical"... especially only being the Astral Plain

what do you do for a job, man

good luck

love all

[Summerlander]

 

I'm an artist, an illustrator, a salesman, an administrator, and above all...a parent. Oh yeah, currently writing a book about OOBEs and my journey with this phenomenon too! So I guess that makes me a writer too!

Interests: Science, consciousness, dreams, psychology, Buddhism.

[Shrikrishna]

I agree Xanth, and it's also possible the stalker/father is actually poisoning the family or something along those lines. Anything from arsenic to a hallucinogen. Maybe they're even being microwaved. Get them declared mentally incompetent, power of attorney... I don't know much about Indian culture but this sounds like classic controlling behavior and psychological warfare from someone who can't admit they were wrong. JMO here.

Shrikrishna would it be possible to hire a private detective (or get a friend) to see what your father is really up to? I have a sneaking suspicion that crimes are being committed, and then you can report him to the authorities. Or, perhaps he's doing nothing at all, and you can then try to figure out the real source of your family's trouble. That's the only suggestion I have in the non-astral realm. I don't have enough experience to answer your original question.
Oh, and go see your doctor for a complete physical.

have had hired many private detectives , some of them were called from out of town also ... everything is confirmed , i stand by whatever i have said..... i still can't digest the fact that you don't believe in Magic.......   and i do not need a complete physical checkup ... i don't have any serious mental or physical problems ... i think you have misunderstood me... if you still can't believe me then a better idea would be to astral project and see my condition ..... i give you the full  permission to watch on my condition .... or a better thing to do would be to spy on him ..... if possible do it .. and see for yourself whether i am speaking truth or false..... i have the proof but the worst thing is that we don't have laws for black magic in India the courts doesn't accept it ... they don't care whether you are cursed or you are cursing someone .... many lives have been lost and families have run into all kinds of physical and mental losses ... specially the GOA state of INDIA is the place where  magic things are practised widely.... travel here and ask anyone , i bet they won't deny it.... India is not that good country..... i don't what else to say to convince you.... 

[Shrikrishna]

Lower planes only exist in the minds of those who believe in such things. Should you go for astral projection? Absolutely, it could provide you with some helpful insights about you and those that surround you, it can also be great fun. But you must enter the state free of preconceived ideas. Just be the explorer rather than jumping to conclusions about the nature of things.

Btw, ether2, there is nothing "magical" about astral projection.

i felt like giving it a try but i am somewhat afraid .... 

[Shrikrishna]

Experts on magic insisting there is no magic LOL

LOL!! hats off to them! LOL LOL!!    

[Shrikrishna]

One thing i have found is that Magic is Totally NEUTRAL ..... the spell casters intentions decides whether it will be white or black!!!! correct me if i am wrong .... 

[Summerlander]

Don't be afraid. Nothing can truly harm you in that state. You know what I do when I see something scary in that state? I no longer run. I just face it unafraid and such things just end up vanishing or you end up having power over them. I stand in front of them unafraid and take away their claim to an actual existence in my mind. In the end I reduce them to nothing - pretty much like what the Buddha did to Mara (the lord of illusions) in his enlightening meditative state as the story goes...

Because of this attitude, I'm more likely to encounter beings who are either more pleasant or indifferent to me.

[Shrikrishna]

Don't be afraid. Nothing can truly harm you in that state. You know what I do when I see something scary in that state? I no longer run. I just face it unafraid and such things just end up vanishing or you end up having power over them. I stand in front of them unafraid and take away their claim to an actual existence in my mind. In the end I reduce them to nothing - pretty much like what the Buddha did to Mara (the lord of illusions) in his enlightening meditative state as the story goes...

Because of this attitude, I'm more likely to encounter beings who are either more pleasant or indifferent to me.

[Shrikrishna]

WT...

where did i even say that?

agreed...astral projection is not "magical"... especially only being the Astral Plain

what do you do for a job, man

good luck

love all

 

[personalreality]

i don't know the context, but ap is the pinnacle of magic.

only the master magician can properly and effectively project.

[Rudolph]

i don't know the context, but ap is the pinnacle of magic.
only the master magician can properly and effectively project.

I occasionally saw similar comments by stray neophytes and aspirants on the main Magick boards.

In my communication with a world renowned Master Magician it was clearly indicated to me that AP outside the confines of ritual preparation and direction was strictly TABOO.

He told me this when I was just starting to AP under my own steam, on my own, when I dern well pleased.

In this particular case I think the neophytes may be on to something.

I think the Magick Order Schools produce initiates of relatively high intellectual achievement but in actual practice their demonstrable level of attainment can be less than impressive.

[Summerlander]

In my communication with a world renowned Master Magician it was clearly indicated to me that AP outside the confines of ritual preparation and direction was strictly TABOO.

Have you ever thought of the reason why they DECIDED to label it taboo?

i don't know the context, but ap is the pinnacle of magic.

only the master magician can properly and effectively project.

Magic??



Explain...

[Rudolph]

Have you ever thought of the reason why they DECIDED to label it taboo?

There were a variety of good reasons. For one thing, it was observed over the years that more than a few initiates would become mentally and emotionally unstable during the course of the early training and the OBE state made matters much worse. Even without their intensive training regimen, even just dabbling in these matters is not without some small manifestations of this. "Delusions of Grandeur" is a common aspect of this phenomenon and we see these types on metaphysical forums on a regular basis.

The Magick Orders routinely reject a number of aspirants seeking initiation. At a certain level of the Magick Training Regimen continued lessons would become the equivalent of placing a homicidal psychopath in military, Special Forces training.

[ether2]

i don't know the context, but ap is the pinnacle of magic.

only the master magician can properly and effectively project.

obviously you dont just mean just projecting to the Astral plain as clearly their are other plains/realms above that...

what do ya call if ya go better than that, im not talking about projection either...levitation, teleportation and then their something above those two as they are way over projecting...i would have thought one would call that the pinnacle of magic(al) if one choose to use that term as im sure Franz Bardon being the one that bought the word magician of Hermetics to the public would agree being the pinnacle...

good luck

love all