Halls of Amenti

[Alex-Anderson]

Hi All

In some of my recent out of body experiences I have been commanding myself to travel to the Halls of Amenti. This was stimulated after listening to a Darius J Wright podcast (funny but never heard of this place before). Anyhow every time I travel there  I'm literally in a dark void with what looks like several brightly lit / golden hexagon shapes that appear to be flat / non 3 dimensional. They will then spin into what then looks like a large cylindrical  coil. Next a blue mist will then coil around me, this freaks me out and I then wake up.

Is the Halls of Amenti a place which is open to interpretation and I will not see the same place as Darius describes? If I can overcome the fear I was thinking of moving towards the hexagon shapes, it's just this wierd blue mist that coils around me which is throwing me off.

[tides2dust]

Hi Alex,

I'm not sure I've seen your post before, but it seems you're not new. So, it's nice to meet you. What a beautiful experience. It's incredible you have the ability to go where you want to.

I was drawn to your thread by its title, the Halls of Amenti have a beautiful sound.

Before looking it up, I had the thought that every person translates their experience uniquely. Some people describe the same thing in different ways. Even with "healthy" vision, the same color may be interpreted with slight variations depending upon the observer.

Now try to think of every person that has ever tried to define God. So when you ask, "will I not see the same place Darius describes?" I think the answer is obvious- even if you are indeed going to the same place.

That being said, I asked AI to quickly summarize the Halls of Amenti(I have no familiarity with the subject).
This definition may be helpful to you...

"The Halls of Amenti, as described in the Emerald Tablets and related esoteric traditions, represent a mystical space of transformation, wisdom, and self-realization. Whether viewed as a literal subterranean realm or a powerful metaphor for the journey of the soul, they encapsulate themes of enlightenment, the overcoming of illusion, and the pursuit of higher consciousness."
Full description here: https://www.perplexity.ai/search/is-it-legal-to-charge-a-proces-i7RXKO6dSgekOJmaEoSmxQ#0

I wonder whether or not there is an aspect of your self you may be afraid to face? I think what you are doing, exploring the unknown in the manner you are, takes incredible courage. And so, I wish you continued success in your endeavors. 

Thank you for sharing! It's always nice to engage with others and be drawn towards spiritual inspiration.

[Alex-Anderson]

Thank you so much a lovely response, I have been a member of this site for many years, but I have not posted in a while.

I have had OBEs most of my life, I'm lucky where they naturally occur whilst sleeping (I simply wake into my OBEs from the dream state).

Most of my journeys have always been close to home, however now I'm a lot older (now in my 50s)? I want to start exploring further a field, as mentioned it was a Darius pod cost where I heard him discuss his journey to the halls of Amenti, and it sounded like it was a place of knowledge and/or a library where one could visit, explore and gain further insight about about oneself, context, and our overall purpose.

Again thank you for the thoughtful reply.

[tides2dust]

Hi Alex,

It's another peculiar choice of words that grab my attention.

"Journey's have always been close to home... Exploring further a field..."

I wonder... Whether or not there is more to reality than how we perceive it. I think the answer is yes. And I wonder if you are actually going "out" or whether or not you are going "in."

I think the answer is you are going in, and the field has more depth than we realize.

These are just my thoughts/ideas as they dance around whatever field this is- entertaining whatever awareness this is...

It is curious! In the physical realm, as we understand it through our basic senses... There is quite some distance between friends who are states apart.

And lately, I wonder how a spirit might make itself known to both of those people at the same time by way of sensation/experience despite their apparent separation.

Or, I think of those who pass away... Reports from family members that the "deceased person" is "everywhere" around them- not some specific region in space or any particular time of day.

I share these thoughts as I contemplate the Halls of Amenti...  And your ability to "go there."

[Lumaza]

 That's a great focus target Alex. Make it your "Happy Place" and you will visit it often. Allow it the freedom to "evolve", for it will!  Don't question it will while you are there. Soak all that knowledge in! There is plenty of time to question it later!

 I too do this, but I use doorways, like in my Doorway thread here on the Pulse. I will either give the target or find that the target already has a number, which will correspond to a certain door. While focusing on the darkness before my eyes, I will mentally enter it like one would a cave, hallway, etc.. There I will search until I would find that particular door and enter into it. That is, if I am "allowed" to. Like has been said by many others here on the forum, some doors are not meant to be open, "yet"!

 I guess you could say it is different path that leads to "Remote viewing".

[Adrian]

This topic reminds me of the Astral Pulse Island project - there is a sub-forum for it. Basically back in 2003 a group of us created Astral Pulse Island in the Astral using a physical image representation of the island which was online here. Projecting there involved a sort of phasing technique using the physical image as an object for the subconscious mind. Not sure if the original image still exists, perhaps Xanth could check in the website root. Astral Pulse Island is a tropical island surrounded by vivid blue ocean with a pyramid in the centre.

[Xanth]

This topic reminds me of the Astral Pulse Island project - there is a sub-forum for it. Basically back in 2003 a group of us created Astral Pulse Island in the Astral using a physical image representation of the island which was online here. Projecting there involved a sort of phasing technique using the physical image as an object for the subconscious mind. Not sure if the original image still exists, perhaps Xanth could check in the website root. Astral Pulse Island is a tropical island surrounded by vivid blue ocean with a pyramid in the centre.

I went through the attachments section and found this one:


The other one I had to hit up google search for...

[Adrian]

Great, thanks Xanth.

The second image represents the original Astral Pulse Island I was involved with.

[Lumaza]

Great, thanks Xanth.

The second image represents the original Astral Pulse Island I was involved with.

Throughout the years there has been a number of attempts to take this on as a "group" focus, but unfortunately, it never panned out. I was having great success with it. It truly became and still is, my "Happy Place"! It has evolved quite a bit though. There is always something new to explore there! 

 Over at the EIC Forum of Fred Aardema's, we had a thread dedicated to a focus on a "Barbeque"/meeting area that we could all attempt to access. The thread was called "the Barbecue" It worked, and we were having success, but then Fred shut down the Forum. I was really hoping "B" and the others would come to the Astral Pulse to continue what we were doing. I miss that forum. I miss my talks with Fred too. The forum was made up of people that were well versed in consciously projecting/shifting into NPRs. I am pretty sure that almost every Moderator that is currently here on Pulse, was a member there as well! Good times! 

[EscapeVelocity]

Since this discussion has drifted slightly into the idea of "group focus", I thought I would add my own ideas and context.

Over the last nearly ten years, I have tried the 'group targeting" of the Astral Pulse Island, the EIC Barbecue and only had very limited results. Honestly, I had no visuals and only limited, what I could define as, energetic impressions of each place and some of the possible people there.

According to psychology, I am like most males and primarily dependent on visual stimuli and so I expect direct visual feedback in my astral excursions...the trouble is, I don't always get visuals and that becomes quite frustrating. Through many experiences, I had to learn to experience through different and mostly energetic and non-visual means. This is a different form of learning: Learning from understanding of energy, complicated by emotional context, complicated by contexts I still do not fully understand.

This complex of ideas and understanding came together more completely when I attended several of the residential Monroe Institute Programs, which I highly recommend. It was during the second program, Lifeline, where we do Retrievals, and then the Starlines Programs, where we venture about the Multiverse that I found a better, though not complete, understanding of the "group focus". The strange thing was, I still had limited visuals of the "gathering places" but I seemed to have better intuitive understanding of what occurred there than the participants around me. It was highly interesting what some people experienced, yet others didn't; me included. Some experiences, I totally received; others, I did not. In the Lifeline exercises, we would meet at the astral version of the TMI Living Room, but I never really had a solid visual of that...still, we would descend to F23 and retrieve some souls. In Starlines, we would gather and board a starship and travel the solar system and later, the Multiverse. I never had much of a visual of that until Starlines 2, when we boarded the starship and I had a vague idea of where our 12 participants were within the ship. That night, not feeling very confident, I proposed a quiz- write down on a piece of paper where everyone 'intuited' they were on a 12 o'clock dial...
Surprisingly to me, my map was the most accurate and agreed upon...it wasn't perfect but everyone agreed it was the most accurate. I was absolutely surprised because my visual sense of the scene felt like 20% at best. There was also some multi-person interaction that occurred that totally verified the situation for me. My take-away was that so much of our understanding is also coming through on subconscious, energetic levels...and to recognize that and not deny it.

My point in all this is that- A visit to The Halls of Aventi, Astral Pulse Island, Bee's Barbecue, my group's Retrievals or Starlines adventures...all those experiences are available. It likely depends on a person's individual ability to focus and probably the remaining energy sustaining the destination. If you want better experiences, then put in the work to improve them.

[Lumaza]

Since this discussion has drifted slightly into the idea of "group focus", I thought I would add my own ideas and context.

I apologize to Alex for hi-jacking his thread. It has opened to some good discussion though! I'm sure that many here can benefit from this discussion as well.

 EV, you are correct. Not everyone will perceive things the same way. We confirmed that on the Barbecue thread at the EIC too. The NPRs are not just a "visual" experience. They can be experienced in all kinds of different ways. Visual imagery is just one of them and what most people would "expect" to see or experience. The "energetic" side is just as important. Each and every way has something new to show and teach you! Leave yourself open to all and there will be no limits!

My point in all this is that- A visit to The Halls of Aventi, Astral Pulse Island, Bee's Barbecue, my group's Retrievals or Starlines adventures...all those experiences are available. It likely depends on a person's individual ability to focus and probably the remaining energy sustaining the destination. If you want better experiences, then put in the work to improve them.

 EV, that is such a good quote, that I feel it needs to be repeated again. In bold letters this time! 

[Alex-Anderson]

The responses above has stimulated a lot of thought on my side towards understanding the dilemma with how context can define content and how content can also define context.  I see this (at least for myself) as influencing and steering the directional path of how I interface with multidimensional awareness, and how perception is more fluid and symbolic.  This in turn lends itself towards my experiences thus far with the halls of Amenti.

However I'm of the belief that this is not an open book, some chapters are already written, it's just how I can access and read them.

[Adrian]

I have no experience of these halls, but I can offer a few general observations and suggestions.

Regarding your initial post:

Is the Halls of Amenti a place which is open to interpretation and I will not see the same place as Darius describes? If I can overcome the fear I was thinking of moving towards the hexagon shapes, it's just this wierd blue mist that coils around me which is throwing me off.

As I am sure you are already aware, the non-physical can be much more "fluid" than the physical, the higher the vibratory frequency, the more fluid it seems, the major determining factor being the influence of the Mind, your expectations etc. Same applies to projecting to AP Island and I assume "the barbecue", no two experiences will be exactly the same due to the influence of the Mind and how it interprets the energy associated with the object. Fear will inevitable result in correspondingly fearful experiences. So a good way of approaching your projection to the halls is with a feeling of expectation, anticipation etc.. If the blue mist appears, know it cannot harm you, and know that you are safe and protected, and view it with curiosity. As you are aware, all communication is effectively telepathic, by thought transfer, so while remaining calm, mentally ask your questions and expect an answer.  You may receive an immediate response, not necessarily in words, but by a "knowing" . If not you may receive the answers later. Ultimately, the Mind is all powerful, so your state of Mind will exert an influence over your experience.

[Lumaza]

 In the past here I made a thread attempting to revitalize the motivation to "return to Astral Island". Unfortunately, it died out quickly. There were some great ideas in that may help your own NPR explorations Alex. Perhaps we can stir up some interest to work on some targets as a group. See what we can see and compare our results!  See, being used in more an "observer" roll.
https://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome-to-astral-pulse-island!/back-to-astral-island!/

[Alex-Anderson]

Sounds fascinating and would love to try this, my only problem is the difficulty applying the right level of commitment. My experiences the majority of the time occur when I awaken from a lucid dream, this is how it's happened my whole life. Sometimes I will have 3-4 out of body experiences in a week, then other times it can go quiet for a month or more. Irrespective, I have read the thread on the astral island and I'm going to see what happens from my end, curious what I may find (if anything at all).

Sounds weird saying this but sometimes having noisy dreams and then OBE/projections through sleep can take a toll on my wellbeing (ie I'm tried all the time). Sometimes it would be nice to have the ability to just switch off, perhaps I need to focus on another way to go on these journeys.

[Adrian]

The advantage with having a physical visual of AP Island is that it provides the subconscious mind with a definite object to reference as a target for non-physical exploration. This was one of the main purposes of the visual, unlike, for example, the Halls of Amenti which has no physical equivalent to reference.

It is quite possible to reach AP Island from an etheric/RTZ OBE by bringing the AP Island to Mind based upon memory of the physical image, and commanding going to the Astral equivalent.  In your case it seems that the sleep disturbances from which you project are disturbing your sleep schedule causing an adverse daytime influence on your wellbeing.

Another method of projecting is by Phasing. Phasing, as a meditative approach, provides much more control  over the experience including when to practice it. For projecting to AP Island, the physical image can still be used as a reference target for the subconscious mind to associate with.

You can find detailed information about Phasing on Xanth's webpage:

An Easy Guide and a Step By Step Book on Astral Projection

Here you also view/download Xanth's excellent book:

What is Astral Projection, and How To Do It

Also, over a couple of decades ago there was a member, Frank Kepple, who was an expert and highly accomplished at Phasing, who most generously shared a considerable amount of knowledge here on the forum, which can be viewed/downloaded here:

Frank Kepple Phasing Posts

[Lumaza]

 Learning how to Phase into the NPRs while consciously aware will also lessen the exhaustion you feel after a LD experience, and even an "OBE" itself.

 It becomes "familiar". Unfortunately, it still will have an "emotional toll". That is why I say that learning how to become consciously aware in your "Dreams", is not for everyone. Many times, it will either make or break your waking day!

 As for the comments above and even the photo of the Astral Island. That has always been my "happy place" throughout my life. The imagery of approaching it from above as you descend down to the sand below is awesome. That is when you allow your curiosity to steer your course, don your "Explorer's Cap" and go explore. Many times, I find that an adventure awaits.! 

[Alex-Anderson]

Its sort of coincidental that the Astral Pulse Island image as shared above is a pyramid on an island, where as my search for the Halls of Amenti is often referenced as entering through a pyramid (linked to Egyptian mythology), then once entering, travelling to the halls which exist below. The image shared above sort of lends itself with creating the visualisation needed from my end. However I also see the halls of Amenti symbolically linked to an island due to its isolation, sacredness, and in a place surrounded by the unknown.

I'm interpreting that the image behind the Astral Island provides the needed expectation, driving the conscious intent and focus to travel there. This has made me question how much of a vale has been drawn across my experiences vs what I would view as my conscious authenticity, maybe I need to stop comparing things to the physical, but i guess the idea of a group / shared target is something I have never really considered and would be curious to know the intent and driver behind having one?

[baro-san]

I hadn't heard of the "Halls of Amenti", so I looked it up:

1. What is The Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean?

The Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean is a work attributed to Thoth, a mythical figure said to be an Atlantean priest-king who later became the god of wisdom, writing, and magic in ancient Egyptian mythology. The text is claimed to be a series of tablets that contain mystical and esoteric teachings, including concepts related to immortality, spiritual ascension, and the structure of reality.
Though it presents itself as an ancient text, it was actually written in the early 20th century by Maurice Doreal, a pseudonym of Claude Doggins, a New Age occultist. The work is not considered a genuine ancient artifact but rather a channeled or inspired text that draws upon a blend of Hermetic, Atlantean, and Egyptian themes.

2. First Mention of Amenti in the Tablets

The first chronological mention of Amenti in the Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean for you. Let me get that for you. 
The Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean is a 20th-century esoteric text authored by Maurice Doreal, who claimed to have translated ancient tablets discovered in the Great Pyramid of Giza. While presented as ancient wisdom, it is widely regarded as a modern creation, blending themes from Egyptian mythology, Hermeticism, and Atlantis lore.

First Mention of Amenti
The earliest reference to the "Halls of Amenti" appears in Tablet I, titled The History of Thoth, The Atlantean:Kemet

"I, THOTH, the Atlantean, master of mysteries, keeper of records, mighty king, magician, living from generation to generation, being about to pass into the Halls of Amenti, set down for the guidance of those that are to come after, these records of the mighty wisdom of Great Atlantis."World Enlightenment+1Kemet+1

In this passage, Thoth introduces the Halls of Amenti as a realm he is about to enter, suggesting a place of transition or preservation of wisdom.

Symbolic Interpretation
The Halls of Amenti are depicted as a subterranean realm beneath Atlantis, serving as a space where Thoth and other enlightened beings undergo cycles of death and rebirth, renewing their strength and wisdom. This concept aligns with themes of spiritual transformation and the pursuit of eternal knowledge.
While interpretations vary, some view Amenti as a metaphor for inner enlightenment—a symbolic journey into the depths of one's consciousness to attain higher understanding.

The full text of the Emerald Tablets, you can find it here: World Enlightenment.

[Adrian]

I hadn't heard of the "Halls of Amenti", so I looked it up:
In this passage, Thoth introduces the Halls of Amenti as a realm he is about to enter, suggesting a place of transition or preservation of wisdom.

The "Emerald Tablet of Thoth the Atlantean" is a contemporary contrivance, totally unrelated to the original.

This is an article I wrote over 20 years ago on the subject:

The Emerald Tablet of Hermes is an ancient text thought to have been originally found written on a green stone tablet, documenting the nature of the Universe and how it came into being. Although the tablet is "emerald" in colour, it is thought to actually be a green stone such as jade, and the writing was raised in relief as opposed to carved.

It was originally thought to have been discovered by a person by the name of "Balinas", who subsequently wrote down the entire text in the ancient Syriac language, from which it has since been translated into many different languages.

The Emerald Tablet is not only significant from the point of view of describing the process of creation and the nature of the Universe, but is also the basis of alchemy. Contrary to popular belief, alchemy is not necessarily the transmutation of base metals into gold, but rather refers to the ennoblement of the Soul and Spirit on the path to perfection, the ultimate mission of everyone and everything in creation.

Following is a 12th century Latin literal transliteration of the Emerald Tablet of Hermes:

"True without falsehood, certain most certain
What is above is like what is below, and what is below is like that which is above. To make the miracle of the one thing.
And as all things were made from the contemplation of The One, so all things were born again from one adaptation.
Its Father is the Sun, its Mother is the Moon.
The Wind carried it, the Earth nursed it.
It is the Father of all works of wonder in the World.
Its power is complete.
If cast to Earth, it will separate Earth from Fire, the subtle from the gross.
With great capacity it ascends from Earth to Heaven. Again it descends to Earth, and takes back the power of the above and below.
Thus you will receive the glory of the distinctiveness of the World. All obscurity will flee from you.
This is the whole most strong strength of all strength, for it overcomes all subtle things, and penetrates all solid things.
Thus the World was created.
From this comes marvellous adaptations of which this is the procedure.
Therefore I am called Hermes Thrice Crowned, because I have three parts of the wisdom of the whole World.
And complete is what I had to say about the work of the Sun".[/i]

Edit I also included the complete exposition I originally wrote for each line of the text, but later concluded it was not relevant to topic as a whole, so I have removed it. If anyone is interested I can re-post it.

The point is, The Halls of Ementi is very much an ongoing topic of interest, but not in any way related to the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus.

[baro-san]

https://world-enlightenment.com/Tablets-of-Thoth/Tablets-of-Thoth-home.htm

https://archive.org/details/EmeraldTabletsOfThothTheAtlantean_201809/page/n2/mode/1up

The wisdom contained therein is the foundation of the ancient mysteries. And for the one who reads with open eyes and mind, his wisdom shall be increased a hundred-fold.

Read. Believe or not, but read. And the vibration found therein will awaken a response in your soul!

In Cosmic Harmony,

Doreal, Supreme Voice of the Brotherhood.

[Adrian]

https://world-enlightenment.com/Tablets-of-Thoth/Tablets-of-Thoth-home.htm

https://archive.org/details/EmeraldTabletsOfThothTheAtlantean_201809/page/n2/mode/1up

This is the version that, as you mentioned in your previous post,

Though it presents itself as an ancient text, it was actually written in the early 20th century by Maurice Doreal, a pseudonym of Claude Doggins, a New Age occultist.

His text may be of interest in its own right, but is not the original text of The Emerald Tablet which  was written thousands of years ago.