Do you believe in the bible and what it says?

[Allanon]

quote:You never rationalized your denunciation of other gods due to their being 'dead in their graves' when Jesus is just as dead. Don't give me any of that Jesus is still alive crap, fact is he's not here on the physical, nor is mohammed, or buddha. Your arument makes no sense.

Jesus had many, many eye witness accounts of His ressurection.

IT BOILS DOWN TO THE FACT THAT NONEOF THE OTHER RELIGIOUS FOUNDERS EVEN CLAIMTO HAVE RISEN FROM THE DEAD.

[no_leaf_clover]

quote:Jesus had many, many eye witness accounts of His ressurection.

IT BOILS DOWN TO THE FACT THAT NONEOF THE OTHER RELIGIOUS FOUNDERS EVEN CLAIMTO HAVE RISEN FROM THE DEAD.

That's only because the church likes to lie. []

[beavis]

Allanon, I claim to have risen from the dead. I was dead before I was born, and then I rose out of my moms vagina.

[no_leaf_clover]

Oh yeah, Beavis? I think I can claim ownage over both you and Jesus. I have died over 50 times so far in my life, and I have came back to life every single time with some 300,000 witnesses each time. Unfortunately, these witnesses were on their deathbeds, and they all died and turned out to be less lucky than I've been. But no one needs the testimony of these now-deceased witnesses, because what I say is the word of NLC, and the word of NLC is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

Now all I need is a group of people that are good at convincing masses of people to believe ridiculous things and a few hundred years. I'll be the next Jesus (but only as far as Allanon portrays such a character)!

Oh, yeah.. I almost forgot I'm going to have to tell everyone that I'm the REAL God and that I'm dying for everyone's sins. Jesus never said he was dying for people's sins, or that he was God, so I'll be one step ahead of him. []

[T_Kman0610]

quote:Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

Oh yeah, Beavis? I think I can claim ownage over both you and Jesus. I have died over 50 times so far in my life, and I have came back to life every single time with some 300,000 witnesses each time. Unfortunately, these witnesses were on their deathbeds, and they all died and turned out to be less lucky than I've been. But no one needs the testimony of these now-deceased witnesses, because what I say is the word of NLC, and the word of NLC is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH!

Now all I need is a group of people that are good at convincing masses of people to believe ridiculous things and a few hundred years. I'll be the next Jesus (but only as far as Allanon portrays such a character)!

Oh, yeah.. I almost forgot I'm going to have to tell everyone that I'm the REAL God and that I'm dying for everyone's sins. Jesus never said he was dying for people's sins, or that he was God, so I'll be one step ahead of him. []

well you all may be right or wrong but what allanon  was saying is jesus still lives, not in the physical but as a spirit in our hearts, he is still with us. not physically but spirtually. im not taking anyones side im only giving my oppinion of what allanon has said.

[no_leaf_clover]

Maybe, T_K, but that wouldn't fit very well with this statement:

quote:I beleive the testimony of the apostles and beleive Jesus is Lord from the ressurection. Your Budha, Confucious, Muhamed are all dead in there graves.

Jesus is just as alive as Buddha in whichever interpretation you take on that.

[T_Kman0610]

quote:Originally posted by no_leaf_clover

Maybe, T_K, but that wouldn't fit very well with this statement:

quote:I beleive the testimony of the apostles and beleive Jesus is Lord from the ressurection. Your Budha, Confucious, Muhamed are all dead in there graves.

Jesus is just as alive as Buddha in whichever interpretation you take on that.

Maybe, but i do not think jesus is out and about walking around, if that was the case we would all know aout it, and we would be seeing him in the paper lol so i do disagree about that statement Allanon made.

[Allanon]

quote:well you all may be right or wrong but what allanon was saying is jesus still lives, not in the physical but as a spirit in our hearts, he is still with us. not physically but spirtually. im not taking anyones side im only giving my oppinion of what allanon has said.

PHYSICALLY, PHYSICALLY, PHYSICALLY. Jesus Christ rose physically!!!! You must believe that in order to be saved.

19On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 20After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

[T_Kman0610]

just thought i would bring a few topics back.

cheers,
T_Kman0610

[T_Kman0610]

this is the question everyone asks to everyonelse, do you believe in the bible, when you go to church and you listen to the preacher preach about what happened  and what its causes and effects were in it, by my oppinion i have a no and a yes belief, is it that jesus wrote it or his deciples or a follower, i mean i believe in jesus and the all mighty creater of us but what about the bible? the author i have no idea who, but are we to believe every word that it says by the authors understanding, and im not saying you have to believe or not its just a religeous question. in it i have heard from many people that say ghosts are not real and that they are simply all demons who appear to be good and they feed on on you not in literal terms but kind of pull you in to blieve what they say so they can find the right moment to drag you in, in where i dont know but thats just what i have heard, and others say that ghost arent real and that when someone dies and goes whereever they go cannot return to earth in means of visiting, but thats where they are wrong because what about angels, in my oppinion angels are ghosts they are from another world and that they can even protect by calling them gardian (angels), well im kind of off the subject but i have my oppinions as well as others, im just curious to hear others oppinions and thoughts too so thank you reading this awful long post and i hope for many replies on this matter good day everyone[]