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For those who might need it, here is a prayer of exorcism said by Catholic Laity. This is not a full blown exorcism prayer, more like a light prayer to be said on a daily basis to clear spaces of unwanted entities.

http://www.geocities.com/missionstmichael/PrayerExorcism.html

Something else of potential help is the St Benedict's Medal (also called the Exorcism Medal) and the latin prayer of exorcism to St Benedict listed on it (St Benedict, besides being the founder of Western Monasticism, also drove out demons and preformed exorcisms).

The following listed below can be found at the website:
http://www.osb.org/



C. S. P. B.

Above the cup and the raven are the Latin words: Crux s. patris Benedicti (The Cross of our holy father Benedict). On the margin of the medal, encircling the figure of Benedict, are the Latin words: Eius in obitu nostro praesentia muniamur! (May we be strengthened by his presence in the hour of our death!)

Monte Cassino
Below Benedict we read: ex SM Casino MDCCCLXXX (from holy Monte Cassino, 1880). This medal was struck to commemorate the 1400th anniversary of the birth of Saint Benedict.

Crux mihi lux
On the back of the medal, the cross is dominant. On the arms of the cross are the initial letters of a rhythmic Latin prayer: Crux sacra sit mihi lux! Nunquam draco sit mihi dux! (May the holy cross be my light! May the dragon never be my guide!).

Peace
Above the cross is the word pax (peace), that has been a Benedictine motto for centuries. Around the margin of the back of the medal, the letters V R S N S M V - S M Q L I V B are the initial letters of a Latin prayer of exorcism against Satan: Vade retro Satana! Nunquam suade mihi vana! Sunt mala quae libas. Ipse venena bibas! (Begone Satan! Never tempt me with your vanities! What you offer me is evil. Drink the poison yourself!)

Approved Blessing
of the Medal of St. Benedict
Medals of Saint Benedict are sacramentals that may be blessed legitimately by any priest or deacon -- not necessarily a Benedictine (Instr., 26 Sept. 1964; Can. 1168).  The following English form may be used.

Our help is in the name of the Lord.
Who made heaven and earth.
In the name of God the Father + almighty, who made heaven and earth, the seas and all that is in them, I exorcise these medals against the power and attacks of the evil one. May all who use these medals devoutly be blessed with health of soul and body. In the name of the Father + almighty, of the Son + Jesus Christ our Lord, and of the Holy + Spirit the Paraclete, and in the love of the same Lord Jesus Christ who will come on the last day to judge the living and the dead, and the world by fire.
Amen.

Let us pray. Almighty God, the boundless source of all good things, we humbly ask that, through the intercession of Saint Benedict, you pour out your blessings + upon these medals. May those who use them devoutly and earnestly strive to perform good works be blessed by you with health of soul and body, the grace of a holy life, and remission of the temporal punishment due to sin. May they also with the help of your merciful love, resist the temptation of the evil one and strive to exercise true charity and justice toward all, so that one day they may appear sinless and holy in your sight. This we ask though Christ our Lord.
Amen.

The medals are then sprinkled with holy water.
Permissu superiorum
Nihil obstat and Imprimatur, Saint Cloud, 24 April 1980.

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Well, just start a new thread...like you guys said, youd on't ahve to post here if you want.

quote:McArthur, Dk, SpectralDragon, and yes...Kiauma. Please take your bickering somewhere else.  

McArthur and DK, Post your opinion, then be done with it.. Do not continue to dissect every post you happen upon, (oh geez, I can see you using this as a quote now  ) Or I will become delete happy..  This is not the kind of forum we had in mind. We believe in freedom of speech, but once that speech is done, that is it. If the topic continues to upset you after your first rant, then just do not continue to partake in that paticular thread. Thanks  

SpectralDragon..all I can say is, you need to find your own thoughts and opinions. Following behind someone and then agreeing all the time, will grow tiresome, as do your oneliners.

You know I would say something about freedom of speech goes hand in hand with responsiblity and that your freedom ends where someone elses begins...but...

I'm amazed at how fast people get tired. People under attack get tired of their situations and still have to go on with life...sometimes days, sometimes months, sometimes weeks or years. You get tired after a few threads, what if you had to do this for months or years?

quote:DK seems to have a massive following of yesmen and anyone who disagrees with her gets shouted down and insulted.

When did I get this powerful?![?] I don't talk to MacArthur and Spectral has been teacher to me on some stuff I've forgotten since the attacks started.

Spectral apologized to you guys...he didn't want to get involved in the arguments and kept his posts short. You couldn't even do the same? I can't even say what I am really thinking right now.




Spectral

quote:By Kiauma How are you validating or recognizing anyone here except you and your supporters - those who share your views?

Just an honest question DK. Please give examples.

Fine...

All people have value and possess qualities they value. Unfortunately from time to time, valuable qualities will clash, and a conflicting agenda will arise. To overcome a conflicting agenda, the valuable qualities must be placed in an order of priority. The old philosophy example of a car sitting at a "No Turn On Red" stoplight,...under normal conditions, it would be illegal to make a turn at the stoplight. But if an ambulance suddenly appeared behind the car with lights and siren blazing, and the only way for the car to get out of the way would be to make the illegal turn, making the illegal turn would be justified. The order of priority had to change.

Validation is not owed to you because it occasionally has to give way for priorities to be organized. I see individuals who claim to have wonderful lives, who have overcome so much, who give the appearance of having so much become insulted and absolutely outraged that something else may take priority over themselves. What is more stunning, is that the priority held in objection is the value of people who are suffering, who are so ruined, so behind because of a combination of trying to stave off the attacks, live life, fulfill responsibility to family and work,...and then forced to defend why their needs have more priority over you own. That's when I quote Mother Theresa, "How dare you be so comfortable at the expense of others!"

You give what you want (whether asked or not) instead giving what's needed, then complain when it falls through, instead of taking a hint that maybe you have a lesson to learn. Actually no, the ones suffering are to do all the learning and the giving so you can stay comfortable. People under attack need realistic, concrete action, not philosophizing that doesn't materialize into anything. People under attack have repeatedly stated what their needs are, all that is required is follow through. People are not so different, so alien that pain can't be recognized or problems solved. If we were, we wouldn't be able to learn and grow. We have to recognize what we are feeling to feel something out, otherwise it is pointless.

[The Five stages Of Grief and Loss:]

There is nothing new about this, except to some of the young pups out there that have never studied college philosophy or psychology...this is what everyone goes through when experinecing a loss, and psychic attack is a form of loss, as is rape, murder, suicide...

The Five stages Of Grief and Loss:

1. Shock and Denial
2. Trying to Bargain
3. Anger and Guilt
4. Depression
5. Acceptance

Quoted:

"What is important for an individual sustaining a loss...is that all of these stages must be passed through successfully before he or she can re-establish a totally healthy emotional and spiritual balance.

...If a person merely represses all feelings--all desires of wishing things could be different, all anger, guilt, or feelings of depression--these inevitably seem to surface in other ways. Sometimes the "symptoms" of these repressed feelings surface in an "unexplained" loss of appetite, or in ulcers, or other physical illnesses--or in psychological difficulties such as an extremely low self esteem or a great reluctance or fear of entering new relationships or being able to maintain them."

-----------Loving, by Michael McCarty--------------------------------

This is what gets repressed and blocked when you call the stages of recovery "a negative attitude." We're human, we need to feel, not be repressed, blocked and stopped by people who don't want to move through anything hurtfull. It doesn't end suffering, it prolongs it and makes it worse. None of our emotions are bad or negative, and healing takes time (or never if you can't find something positive in your emotions).

No, I'm not coming back, Crim's email isn't working for whatever reason.

Crim if you see this I tried emailing it to you...when it didn't work I resorted to this.

Carol Rutz, the woman who suffered gov't sponsored medical experiments as a child, suggested this website to me because many abductees have contacted the woman who puts it up. It's not about conspiracy theory, it's been put up by the people who suffered and by the surviving relatives of people who died during MKULTRA and other programs. It has some interesting science material with regards to a few things I think you are interested in.

Spectral Dragon has seen my perp hooked up to some kind of machine...if it's true, it might be this:

http://www.raven1.net/

Sorry, Aries, I'll find another way to contact you besides email.

No, Crim, I don't believe in ALL of it (still having trouble believing in the World Leaders our under our control mantra, I couldn't function at the height of my attacks and I can't see how a world leader could, and I don't believe the girl in Florida is being attacked...I'm sorry but I refuse to believe that every person suffering something odd is suffering from this, I need more proof). But a few of the things posted sound familiar including some of the pictorial stuff.

As usual, Crim, keep it open ended, take what you need, discard the rest or shelf it in case something comes up later in the future.

All right, here is a prime example of why I repeat information we have all heard before to newbies who are being attacked and feel terrified for their lives...I am looking for the exact thread, which I know has to be on this page, where one of you guys spoke about experiencing an electric shock that straightened you out while lying in bed and I can't find it....

My perp, when he was still able to get into my aura through my feet, needs me to lie straight to get in. When I'm lying on my back in an uneven position, he would do something to one of my feet, and literally my whole body would go straight as if lying in a position of "Attention"...like when I was standing at attention back in my martial arts days.

Whoever you are, sounds like someone is trying to get in through your feet and needs you straightened out. Positive entities do not disrespect you that way.

You guys have got free will, you can decide whether you want to take heed of this or not......

This kid contacted me ~Dec 7, 2003 on MSN...he is a Psy Vamp, and no I did not get that from his profile page where he blazenly states it.

He contacted me and sent a picture of himself, which he strongly pursued me to accept,...felt strange the way he did it because I was picking up on something like, "open my picture = grant me permission to hit on you"

He first started out calling himself Loko, then started calling himself Pyro. He kept asking me personal questions like, How old was I, what did I look like, where did I live, lot's of other personal info, but never gave any of his own. Just would not supply any info. Like he just wanted me to talk and stay online.

Then the headaches would start along with the feelings of my aura and chakras being ripped to shreads, and it would happen everytime this kid tried to contact me. The Pyro who did all this is the same age as the Pyro4571 who just wrote a thread on the pulse, and the energy feels the same as well.

Assuming you care, don't answer what he has written, I have a feeling it's the same crap of, grant me permission by reading my thread.

Guys, guys, nothing personal to anyone, but if a "philosophical" argument is going to start, could we please make a separate thread for it, it makes researching through stuff a helluva lot easier.

Pleiads and Billy Meier, OK. I have actually heard of Billy Meier and have seen his "UFO videos". They were awful, I mean, reminiscient of of a Ray Harryhausen movie...and no, that's a not pot shot, I mean they really were that bad. The most obvious fakes I have ever seen and hope I ever see (It's like, oh look, the string is attached there).

But as I don't connect Billy Meier with the reality of the Pleiads I don't connect him with a complete and utter lack of their existence either (I don't see a man like that having that much power).

But on another turn,...life has many different forms. When we say, well life can't live there, what are we comparing? A 3D human, I mean, are we that much of the pinnacle of the universe. Life can be physical and can be pseudo physical and can be non-physical (I do believe in heaven, I hope I go there when I die, but I don't see myself as having a physical body if and when I get there,...but I'm assuming I'll be alive somehow). The Creator is vast and so is His Creation, and the life created can take on many forms or be completely formless (one of the perks of omniscience).

Another thing is "from our vantage point" no life as we know it exist in the Pleiads. Well what about outside our vantage point, (Aren't Pleiads 6D? I can't remember too long ago.). They're in a different density of existence, different timeline, different reality.  

This is why I go back to my original comment some days ago...I'd appreciate it more if the channelers concentrated on teaching people about densities, vantage points, the Law of Free Will, the Law of COnfusion, and the difference between time-space and space-time. Without that starting point there is just going to be more confusion, more miscommunication, more misunderstandings.

Another thing about channeling higher density entities is that there is a deep need for three things for sucessful communication to take place: Clear, Specific, and Accurate communication. Those aren't mantras those are actual needs because of the difficulty in translation, especially between 3D and 4D. Accuracy, ie, no over glorifying of information, toning down sarcasm, the information is provided at the level of mental, emotional, and spiritual awareness appropriate, no more, no less. Generalized information is not specific, not clear, and not accurate. It tends to be on the deceptive and circular side, a neg trait.

[No, I highly doubt there are listening devices in my apartment!]

Something bizarre happened to me last night when I went to bed, and it happened once before at the begining of the download last year (it's almost a year now, 1.5 more months).

When I was living in my house back in the MidWest, (and I can't remember the exact date it started I just know it started right before the download went into full swing) I would go to bed at night and hear what sounded like audible radio transmissions coming from my kitchen. What did it play? Of all things, the opening theme to G Gundum, which was popular on Cartoon Network's Toonami at the time and then it would play a radio station ID. I couldn't hear it well at the time, but eventually I listened closely and discovered it was the promo for a local radio station I didn't even listen to. When the download went into full steam, and the "radio sound" became more audible, I was actually directed by my perp to go look for it, and I could never find the source. I would be in my basement directly underneath my kitchen and I would hear it audibly and externally in the basement (it was EXTERNAL, not in my head). My perp told me (when we were playing, "it's the government, stupid" role playing) it was a listening device...then changed the story to, it's a bomb. Finally I gave up and refused to play, never found a damn thing, and I don't think "the source" is physical.

Usually I sleep with my water fountain running, some glass encased 7 day candles burning, and the TV on, just to make life difficult for my perps. Last night for whatever reason I chose to turn my TV off.

Wanna take a guess at what I heard?

No I didn't hear the G Gundum theme, and I didn't hear the promo for the Midwest radio station. I have no idea what it was, I didn't listen closely enough, I just remembered rolling my eyes, feeling real annoyed, and thinking, "Hear we go again."

No, I highly doubt there are listening devices in my apartment! []

Did I mention all I own is a discman, no radio or stereo (had to sell mine to come out here)?

Has anyone heard anything like this before with regards to Telepathy? (Sorry Crim, haven't finished reading the Telepathy page you sent me yet). I don't have any metal in my body...as far as I know.

Crim this might fall under your question some weeks back as to what constitutes an attack.

After reading what I have so far and speaking to a few people I'm developing a theory...and the theory involves CRI and the statement I read in PSiPog about some shields being able to block everything but telepathy.

I've been told constantly that when you're attacked, go after your perp, do this, do that. I've done this, done that, the attack never FELT like it stopped or slowed. After a while of expending energy you just stop, feel demoralized, and just conserve energy to deal with whatever the perp has attached to you.

I'm now considering something...is it possible the inital "sensations and feelings" of the attack are telepathically implanted? ie, give the appearance that an attack is taking place when in fact nothing is actually physically happening to you? You retaliate thinking something is there when in fact you're battling against a telepathic phantom that doesn't exist, it's all happening in your mind.

The imaginary, perceived attack continues, you feel frustrated and defeated because what you are doing has no effect, your will weakens, your self confidence weakens,...your natural defenses and shields drop!

Once dropped, something is attached in the exact location of where the "fake attack" was intiated, giving the appearance it was all one stroke, one experience, one set of actions.

If it is telepathic (may even be someone's sick concept of a telepathic greeting), and it operates the way I have just described, that would explain a lot.

But I need more info about telepathy, it's strengths and weaknesses before I can genuinely know.

I have bought several remote viewing books to get a better idea of how Remote Viewers operate.

There is a description in all the books where the viewer can be directed of self directs him/herself to access a human target's mind and in some cases influence the thoughts. It made me feel creepy because I remember the description in Practical Psychic Self Defense where Robert Bruce actually (with permission of the person) gains access to a person, their thoughts, and discovers he can actually influence some of the person's thoughts and actions. Robert related akin to posession.

The one method for evasion against such a thing described so far is to create a mirror like shield around yourself.

I know some of you guys know some remote viewers out there, can you verify any of this?

All right Michael...I've thought about this. I am inviting you to come back as I think you may be more similar to me that I care to admit.

But there are a few rules here...no attacks, and no "plucking of energy without permission."

I know what it's like to be reduced to a state less than an animal. All you're coping skills, boundaries, and identity ruined, you can't function in normal life the way other people should. With your needs going unmet and unacknowledged you resort to being an animal to stay alive, preying on others to sustain yourself. People lash out and attack you, which makes you more defenseless and more dependent on the animalistic ways of staying alive...all the while, a group of all powerful morons of watching the whole affair as the "test specimens" go at it.

For starters, get your hands on some hematite. Metal Ice is right, it works (but I only have one stone Metal, I got a necklace off of ebay. I'll be going back on ebay to find more stones).

I'm hoping you're financial situation isn't as dire as mine and you can actually procure these things.

Yeah, I think you were luring me into something. I've noticed that's how these a**holes operate, pull the string and watch Dark Knight jerk. I have a feeling they wanted me freaked, so I'd take actions I wasn't ready to perform, discredit myself so they can continue playing. Then there's you, bash you, you get no support, you stay under their control.

I didn't send you any energy Michael, and I am not going to. You have to learn how to operate on your own again without attacking people. I know how hard that is, but it isn't impossible, I've done it.

I'd tell you to open up and feel natures energy, but I can barely do that. That's what I hate about these a**holes. They shut you down so far and so fast, you can't get energy the way normal people do, so you're reduced to taking. People don't seem to have a concept for that. That's one of the reasons I stopped trying to do certain things. I'm so shut off, the only way I could get it is by force.

If you guys still think I'm nuts...I've got something else to come clean on, and it was what I became when these guys were all the way in my head. Some higher power intervened and freed me. If not for that, I'd be insane, dead, or worse.

I have to do this.

* I moved your topic to the chat, and deleted the others that you are posting on every forum.  If you feel the need to get in contact with this person, please PM him*
Thank-You, Nay

It's time I came clean, I wait any longer with this.

I am receiving help from someone on the pulse. Upon investigation, my attacker's origin was revealed.

Many of you know I am a Grey ET Abductee. Well, my attackers are related along familiar lines.

My attacker is a member of the US governement's mind control/remote viewing program.

Apparently I am not the only one this is happening to, I've met and spoken to other abductees who have described similar experiences. There is a counselor nearby who has admitted she has counselled people (abductees) who have undergone this experience.

Friday I was followed home from work. Driving to work I heard in my head, "Dammit, Dammit, I lost her." Driving home, I heard in my head, "I'm so close to you now." What I've managed to learn is that this guy can control me from far away when I am under his thumb. When I start to break away, he drives to where ever I am to regain control.

That's what he did Friday. Saturday I was harshly attacked by two people, not just one. My energy was very severely drained and once again, my need to write down everything that happened was in vain.

Then there's you Michael_Stonewing!

I'm sure you don't mind me sharing the PM you sent me with the rest of the class:

quote: By the way why did you send all of that energy my way the other day after replying to my topic post? Not that it didn't feel good but I still wonder why someone would send (what white light?)
It is actually interesting that you did that since I immediately became interested in who this person was that was sending me such nice gifts. Anyway I checked out some of your posts and I went to a section of Astral Pulse I had never cared to be in the Channelings/prophecy section and believe it or not we really are not that different from each other. Let me guess - needle like puncture marks sometimes as many as four of five (I forget... been awhile) on your neck near your arteries? Some on the backs of your hands and wrists. Bruises and cuts really anywhere on your body but the upper thighs espeacially. Feelings of utter exhaustion after you wake up and really have no idea how you got them because as far as you know you didnt even dream that night.....
Yes, I definately could be either luring you or trapping you even if I didnt consciously know it but still its interesting.... by Michael Stonewing

No, in answer to your question, I have never had markings like that except for the scar on my upper right thigh that I received last year. And, no, I am not the one who sent you that energy...and I know this God Damn game, it's been played with me way too much! I'm sure someone helped you to that energy, and I'm equally sure you were one of the two attackers that came to me on Saturday.

Which brings me to the quote you made in the Astral Experiences forum with regards to the Dark Haired Guy:

quote:45-50 year old male. Dark hair and normally looks younger than he should.... High level of Government backing and lots of friends in some very high places. Adept at the most powerful magics available to humans/half humans.....

Ask him if his name is Alan?
Just a friend of a friend saying HI! by Michael Stonewing

I am not going to make any threats, actually, from what I've been told in the Communications forum, I am the living threat! Or one of them, anyway.

I am not going to be intimidated, I am not going to be stopped, and I feel you siphoning off my energy as I type this! Metal, I have some Hematite and you're right it works. I have ordered the Psy Vamp book and it's on it's way...money or no money, I guess I'll just be in debt forever.

For the rest of you guys, what was channeled to me about my situation is in the Communications Forum, You'll find it easily.

Wish me luck, I'm going to have a horrible life.

Check out this website:

http://my.dmci.net/~casey/

This is a link to a person who was subjected to governmental experimentation. This isn't conspiracy theory, this is fact, this information came out on the news a few years ago, but I didn't even know all the information listed.

I pray to God for forgiveness of my sins and protection from evil and all it's lies.

[I AM PUTTING THIS IN CAPS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION...JUST TELLING THEM TO GO AWAY AND HAVE FAITH IN YOUR HEART IS NOT ENOUGH. YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE MINDFRAME THAT AN ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE IS UNDERWAY AND DEAL WITH IT UNDER THE PROPER ETIQUETTE GUIDELINES OF COMMUNICATION. YOU HAVE TO USE THE LAW AGAINST THEM, INSTEAD OF THEM USING THE LAW AGAINST YOU, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING TO ME. IF YOU DON'T DO THIS ACCORDING TO THE WAY THE LAW WORKS AND YOU JUST TELL TELL THEM TO GO AWAY, MAKE A BANISHING PENTAGRAM, ALL THE DEFENSIVE POSTURES, YOU ARE NOT SIGNALLING WHEN CONTACT BEGINS OR ENDS. YOU ARE OPEN FOR CONTACT ALL THE TIME. THESE JERKS HAVING BEEN PLAYING ON A TECHNICALITY IN THE LAW. WHEN YOU FOLLOW THE ETIQUETTE, YOU CLEARLY DICTATE WHEN CONTACT IS ENDING, THEY HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW.]

For the first time in a long time I am feeling lighter, freer, and some of my emotions are coming back.

I'm not entirely clean yet, but I am getting there.

I'm elated...and I am absolutely infuriated at what the "cure" turned out to be.

I haven't mentioned in this forum who my attackers are yet. What they have been doing to me for 5.5 years is this...

They've been using the laws revolving around contact and channeling ettiquette as a literal technicality...they were turning the law into a loophole to get at me.

Apparently I'm more powerful and more "well known" in some circles than I care for (my name was specifically requested for attack by entities I don't even know).

WHen channeling there is etiquette to be followed and laws to be obeyed, otherwise the universe would be over run with negs. What these people and their neg overseers did to me, was initiate a psychic contact. Now realize at the time this was happening I was a scientist, was open minded about psychic ability but had no belief I had it or interest in developing it. These knew what I really had, iniated psychic contact, and me, not knowing what the hell was going on, kept "thinking and thinking", probably activating my psychic ability. Even though I wouldn't call this a greeting, it didn't matter, technically speaking I "opened up and responded" to the greeting. This is what has allowed these jerks to attack me continuously.

Let me get specific here. When you channel, and I only know the generalities here, You open, annouce a greeting specifically to someone, then announce the start of transmission. When conversation is about to end, You announce the appraoch of the end, contact will be reinitiated at such and such a place and time, or not at all, and you verbally announce "transmission ending now", close the channel. When you specifically use this etiquette, these people, these entities have to obey because it is the law. This is what enables the Higher Beings to maintain control of the universe.

There was no etiquette played on their part or mine. Yeah, I've told them to please go away, done the usual stuff most people suggest, but never with an understanding of how the law works (and that is something I am unbelievably upset about...communication in concepts has got to improve. Nobody seems to have an understanding of how concepts work, their boundaries and attributes, why boundaries and attributes may be different with other people...it's like the suffering are expected to understand the concepts of people who are fine, in the context of people that are fine, and that is impossible. Then we're blamed when we don't get it. You tell the suffering to be open and specific and you yourselves don't know how to be open and specific. That is ridiculous and it needs to stop. Being right is not more important than people, and we're all supposed to be teachers and students. "Fine People" don't seem to want to do either, and I am sick to death of this).

The magic, the incense, the oils, the shields, banishing rituals it didn't make my situation better, it made it worse. Why! Because they were all interpreted by my attackers as a form of introductory greeting and start of a communication, and their use of communication is to psychically attack me! And there was never a closing salutation.

I AM PUTTING THIS IN CAPS TO GET YOUR ATTENTION...JUST TELLING THEM TO GO AWAY AND HAVE FAITH IN YOUR HEART IS NOT ENOUGH. YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE MINDFRAME THAT AN ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE IS UNDERWAY AND DEAL WITH IT UNDER THE PROPER ETIQUETTE GUIDELINES OF COMMUNICATION. YOU HAVE TO USE THE LAW AGAINST THEM, INSTEAD OF THEM USING THE LAW AGAINST YOU, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING TO ME. IF YOU DON'T DO THIS ACCORDING TO THE WAY THE LAW WORKS AND YOU JUST TELL TELL THEM TO GO AWAY, MAKE A BANISHING PENTAGRAM, ALL THE DEFENSIVE POSTURES, YOU ARE NOT SIGNALLING WHEN CONTACT BEGINS OR ENDS. YOU ARE OPEN FOR CONTACT ALL THE TIME. THESE JERKS HAVING BEEN PLAYING ON A TECHNICALITY IN THE LAW. WHEN YOU FOLLOW THE ETIQUETTE, YOU CLEARLY DICTATE WHEN CONTACT IS ENDING, THEY HAVE TO OBEY THE LAW.

Crim, Metal Ice, Xelios, even you, this might be the answer to your situations. Your attackers might be taking the laws regarding contact as a literal interpretation and using it as a loophole for attack. Every time we retaliate using shields, magic, banishments, psychic ability, telepathy (!), prayer (!), just telling them to leave and go away without acknowledging a start/end signal...they are using all of it as a loophole to get to us...I'm wondering if their neg energy lawyers!

There is NO WAY I could've known this to this level of specificity without someone telling me what to do. They're using our ignorance as an advantage!

I'm not entirely out of the woods yet. I have to learn how to channel. I don't have a choice anymore. I'm clearing up but there is still one more loophole they can attack me with. I have no understanding how my telepathy, my psychic ability works. These guys have trained me (programmed more like it) to associate something with opening up and iniating a greeting. What the physical combination is yet, I have no idea!

THESE ARE NOT PERSONALITY FLAWS! I AM IRATE AS HELL BECAUSE WE'RE CONSTANTLY TOLD THIS IS HAPPENING DUE TO FEAR GENERATED BY A PERSONALITY FLAW. THIS IS CAUSED BY FEAR GENERATED BY SOMEONE ELSE HAVING MORE INFO THAN YOU! THAT IS NOT A CRIME! A 3RD GRADER DOESN'T HAVE A PERSONALITY FLAW BECAUSE HE/SHE CAN'T DO 8TH GRADE MATH. WE HAVE A RIGHT TO BE TREATED LIKE HUMAN BEINGS AND HAVE OUR NEEDS  ACKNOWLEDGED AND RESPECTED, INSTEAD OF BEING TREATED LIKE CRIMINALS! I AM ASSUMING THAT I AM NOT ASKING FOR MUCH! IT IS OUR RESPONSIBLITY TO LEARN, AND IT IS THE RESPONSIBLITY OF OTHERS TO TEACH IN A RESPECTFUL WAY...WHICH APPARENTLY IS QUITE A PROBLEM FOR SOME!

Crim, Metal Ice, Xelios, be careful, but try it and tell me what happens.

If you need me to explain again I will until I reach your level and respectfully act as an interpreter. You're not idiots and you don't have personality flaws if you don't understand something. That's life not a crime.

Tayesin worked on me last night even though I was not online (I was waiting for 10:00PM then was dismayed whenI realized my clock had suddenly slowed down...wrong time).

Tay came anyway and saw the dark haired man. If Tay is right (and I need to decide this for myself), this guy is a living being, not someone I have ever known or met personally. Why he's doing it is unbelievable to me.

Crim, if this is what you meant, email me if it's safe.

THis is hard for me to swallow and I don't know what to tlak about what not to. I'm going to talk to Tay, but something I think I will have to do this weekend, sit down, and somehow, chronicle every nook and cranny event that happened to me during my Feb/Mar data download.

Liz, if you're out there, let me know.

I'd like several opinions on this.

The quote below was made by joe225612

quote:The easiest way to get rid of psycic vampires at night is to lie in bed and look into the blackness of the room. Stair at one place on the ceiling till you can't see anything else. After a while you will only see that spot. After this you will beguin to see a white light. Try your best not to blink till the room is completely covered by this light. It will destroy all the evil in the room and you can keep the psychic vampires at bay. If you feel as though a vampire has you then immediately when you see the white light, streach it to look like a net. You will trap the vampire. After this imagine a blue energy going to clear and then green then absorb it. You will drain the psychic vampire at his/her own game.

The quote was made in Metal Ices thread about Psy Vamps.

James S replied with this:

quote:What you're describing is part of the natural physiology of the eye, an effect thats known as Troxler fading.

Troxler fading is where peripheral vision fades untill all you can see is a point in the centre of your vision, which relates to the centre of the retina called the macula, where your vision is at its strongest. The retina of the eye has photoreceptors that use a light sensitive chemical called rhodopsin, which only works for a limited time and quickly bleaches. the bleaching of rhodopsin is also what causes afterimages. When you blink or move your eyes, even that short period of changed light levels is enough to allow the rhodopsin to regenerate. If you stare at the same thing for a long time, the rhodopsin isn't allowed to regenerate and so your vision fades from the peripheral areas inwards, as the photoreceptors in the peripheral areas of your vision are the most sensitive to light and react quicker.

This is a natural part of the eyes behaviour and as such that little spec of light is really all that is remaining of your normal vision until you blink again.

As much as Troxler effect has nothing to do with anything psychic, lying in such a state which could become trance-like is probably a good indication that you are allowing your mind to become both detached from the physical world around you and focused on the non-physical world.

Regards,
James.

I really need help dealing with this and I need a few more answers, that's why I started a new thread.

Some of you that read my original story know that a few days after I was "killed off" back in April 1998 I was very sick, vomitting everything I took in, and eventually reached a state where I was lying on my couch in my living room, too weak to move. The phone rang and I couldn't get up to reach it...I forgot about the answering machine. Next thing I knew I heard the voice of a friend of mine come on the answering machine, she was calling to see how I was doing. I started crying because I couldn't get up to reach the phone to ask for help, thought I would be dead by morning and really believed I was hearing the voice of my friend for the last time.

During my data download last Feb/Mar, I was kept awake 24/7 for 2 weeks. Drank four water glasses of Cream Sherry Wine and not only did not go to sleep, I never got drunk or had a hangover (I should have been wasted after the first few sips). At one point, I was once again, alone and isolated and too weak to move, lying in bed, unable to call or talk to my family. I saw the little light appear on the ceiling and I was told that I was dying and would be dead soon. My sight was becoming like an aperture on a camera...closing in from the inside out till all you can see is the center. I really thought I was in the same boat, dying alone, was getting ready to move through the tunnel of light to take me to heaven or hell (I wasn't even sure I would go to heaven...I thought I would die and be ripped apart by these things with no one bothering to even lift a finger to help).

The feeling of dying alone,  with no comfort, with no one knowing what happened to you, why it happened, or who is responsible...is one of the ugliest, helpless, frightening things that could ever befall another human being. I would not wish it on anyone.

If anyone else can shed a little more light on this topic, I would appreciate (yes I'm willing to hear the worst, that entities probably were trying to push me out of my body so they could use it for themselves).

I need answers and I need support because this is just awful.

Crim,

THis might be a dumb question, given how much research you do but I'll give it a shot, you never know.

Have you ever heard of an HNMR? Or Proton NMR?

I'm a chemist remember. A NMR is an instrument that measures the number of Hydrogen Atoms (Protons) in a given compound. I haven't played with one since college so give me some time here, I have to find my textbook. NMR's, if I remember correctly (PLEASE God save me from making a complete fool of myself) NMR's meansure Hydrogen Atoms by affecting their spin...I think?

I need to find my text book Crim, I'm sorry and embarrassed I don't remember this off the top of my head. Give me time to look it up.

When I was forced into examining the paranormal I noticed science and magic had an unusual capacity of paralleling each other and in this case (affecting the spin of a chakra).

As usual Crim, if you've got the inside scoop, share it and jog my memory, I think there's something here.

I don't like cutting pasting like this but I think this is very important and may affect a lot of people here. I had a weird experience Sunday night and so did Tayesin (Tayesin has been trying to help me with a few isolated things on the side). It's listed originally in the Astral Experiences forum under "Something VERY different!!!!!"


Hi All,
I had the most interesting experiences yesterday and last night so I decided to share them with you. It is a bit long but interesting anyway. So here goes........

Monday 29 September 2003.

Approximately 5 to @ 6 pm.(AEST)

While online I got a tightening sensation that signifies to me some sort of presence or communication. I tried to block it with a screening method but it only dulled and did not stop completely. So I opened to it and asked to be shown who or what was attempting to communicate with me, at first I could see the eyes of a typical alien, who said, "We are ready to work with you now, you must project to us in order to meet." I agreed that I would do it that night and expected the communication feeling to end, but it did not. Again I opened to see who was there and saw a man about 45 to 50 with dark hair who said, "Why are you interferring with what I am doing?" I answered, " I am only trying to help those who have asked for help." He then said, "You will lose, you're going down." Then he too left, I felt he was the man responsible for some of the psychic attacks that some forum members are having. The feeling of contact did not end there either, so someone else was in touch with me at some level. I did not have the freedom to pursue it any further as my daughter required my attention at the same time.

Today, 30th September I received a private message form a member of the Astral Pulse Forum who wanted to know if I had helped him to get out of body. I read the message and he said, "Sunday sep28 night (technically monday) around 3am eastern time. I met an entity that claimed to be you. It gave me lots of energy, helped me get out of body, and showed me some things that would be very hard to describe. I dont remember either of us having any form. We were more spread out. If that was you, can we do it again? It was more like sharing energy than you giving it to me. I produced the most energy I've produced in many months and gave some to you and whoever else was around. If that was you."

This seemed to answer the question of who else was in contact with me at that time, as I had checked on the world clock to see what time it would have been here and it was within the time-frame that I felt the communications happening.

So now back to the previous night..... I waited for the night when I would be able to give my full attention to the first contactee. At 9:15 pm my time, I sat and began to prepare to journey out and see what the Alien wanted from me. One of my Guides came and said, "We do not have time for that, we are late already. Just project your awareness, let's go." I did as he suggested and was soon approaching the largest 'ship' I have ever seen, it was massive, about the size of the first ships depicted in the movie "Independence Day".

I wanted to check it out but had no time for frivolities ! My guide led me in and the first thing I noticed was a human male dressed in a uniform who bowed to us. I questioned why a human was aboard this ship and was told, "This is a Federation Ship, there are all kinds on-board." We quickly moved on to something I would describe as an elevator, and entered it while my Guide said he would wait for me to return. The elevator rose at phenomenal speed and very quickly came to a stop, the door(s) opened and there waiting for me was a tall, pale-grey Alien who telepathically said, "Come with me, we are ready for you now." And he led me to what looked like a normal office type board room, with oval table and chairs all around it. One other being was waiting and he refused to speak with me, I got the feeling from him that he was not particularly friendly to us humans.

I waited just a couple of seconds and then heard my name called, and noted also that it is not the name I have in my current life. One wall of the room slid open to reveal a huge auditorium sized room, circular in shape, with seating around the outside and what appeared to be a gigantic round table in the middle. I heard, "Please take your seat", and immediately knew what seat was mine, I could see it clearly, as if I had sat there many times before. I made my way around the circle to my seat and calmly sat while waiting for the meeting to start. It was extremely quiet, except for my thoughts. I was reminded to screen my thoughts as it was like I was yelling out in the room !! I tried to do so, while the meeting started.

A being from a race that I had seen once during my first kundalini awakening stood up and approached the table at the same time that an approximately thirty foot diameter hologram of Earth appeared above the table. What took my attention was the thousands of red dots all over the globe. The being who had stood up began to communicate to the gathering, explaining that the red dots indicated where the underground/undersea bases existed for the Reptilian's. And that their plans for processing the human inhabitants was well advanced. This meeting was to find a way to deal with the threat that would not cause an escalation in hostilities.

One being suggested simply attacking and destroying the Dark Forces, but that was answered with, "Should we choose that option, the Reptilians will respond with a full-force attack upon that world and us. We do not have sufficient numbers here as yet to deal with that kind of situation." Another being asked, " Could we not destroy them one ship at a time when we see them ?" And the answer was, "That action will provoke them to a full-scale attack also. What we do to deal with this situation must be very well planned and not make any provocations." Then I was asked to stand and give the message that I had received four years ago when talking with a Reptilian emissary at a place I call the high ground. I did as they had asked and took my seat again.

The meeting continued. I learned that these Reptilians were actively working at bringing about the Armageddon scenario as described in the Bible, that they were also actively involved in producing some large Earthquakes around the planet and that they are here in massive numbers.....although the larger main force is on standby within our Solar System in 'cloaked ships'.

Then I was told that my services would not be needed for the remainder of the planning session and I could return to my world. I left and met with the tall pale grey one who spoke with me about a number of things that are happening in my life and left me with one overriding thought as we reached the elevator. He said, "Remember this.", then gave me a huge input of pure Loving energy while saying to my mind that I must remember this is my weapon. I then entered the elevator for the quick trip down and found my Guide waiting as he said he would. We returned to my place and I spent some time talking with my Primary higher-self Guide to ensure that I understood what was going on in my life and to know that I am strong enough to deal with the dark-haired man who had threatened me during the earlier communications.

Elapsed time, 35 minutes.

Told you it was different hay, LOL

Love Always. Tayesin.
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[Dark Knight] I responded with the following below:


I've got to add something to what Tayesin has said.

For those of you who are not familiar with me, I'm an OBE grey contactee. I had plans for writing a book of my own with regards to empathic healing and awareness. Well, that went out the window when I fell under psychic attack and demonic possession...I believe by the entity Tayesin describes. That was five years ago and still going. Tayesin is getting ready to try to see what is happening to me since everything I pick up is Neg influenced and unreliable. He works through MSN Messenger. As I was downloading it Sunday, US Eastern Standard Time, my hard drive suddenly, physically crashed. I was already annoyed because I knew it was going to have to pay to get it fixed ($233, a fortune for me right now if you knew what's happened to me). Apparently more was going to happen later than night.

Sunday night/Monday morning US Eastern Standard Time, I believe the greys tried to pick me up. Got the usual buzzing in my skull that comes whenever they come. It was stopped because I woke up, (or something forced me awake, not sure). They wanted me to go with them... they also wanted me to speak with another contactee that was allegedly there. I said, "No, I'm not going to do this. My brain is all screwed up from all the Neg enforced channeling, brain washing, manipulation, etc. Every time I have contact, it's Neg tainted and very hard to unravel/remove." I told them if they wanted to talk to me they would have to go see Tayesin and speak to him first.

Just curious if this seems like an approachable idea or not.

Not everyone has the same experiences when it comes to attacks and communication is key in getting help.

Could we create another forum, strictly for individuals who are under severe attack and have already done the usual (drawn sacred symbols on ourselves, blessed the area with Holy Water, prayers, mantras, incense, essential oils, ritual baths, sacred herbs, visualizations, etc).  

Could we have a forum that makes it clear that the people participating have already done the usual and we need something a bit more? Could the PSD forum be more for people with temporary problems or entities that turn tail at the first sight of trouble? It's just getting damn tiring of having to repeat the same stuff over and over again and it comes at the absolute worst of times (getting threatening emails, strong attacks where you can't breath or feel anything, entities trying to rip you out of your body or attacking you as you type).

I sent Metal an email two weeks back, she responded in a 5 word email confirming that her attacks started up again, even though she has now moved to a new location. I've tried emailing her several times and have not heard from her.

Has anyone heard from Metal? Does anyone know if she is all right?

Metal, if you're reading this, I don't need a long involved explanation. Just let me know you're OK.

Oh Good Grief. I have a book on Enki and Enlil...back in the Midwest somewhere.

I have my Greek, Roman, British, French and Norse, I think my Egyptian and Middle Eastern Mythology books are in the Midwest. Yuck!

Let me do some digging Crim, but I've never heard of the Star of David bein affiliated with the Eye of Horus.

Guys,

You know, I'm really sorry about repeating information like this but I think it's important...especially given how hard I was pounded on after I wrote the original. The quote is a part of Criminalmind63 response listed in the "a mothers curse" thread by Xander. My two original replies are below it. What she describes is what a lot of us undergoing long term neg attack are going through. The constant whittling down, mind game. Not to hijack anyone's idea or conversation, it's just that a lot of people have no clue what is happening to them because they're unable to detach and see the big picture thanks to what these things/people are doing to them.

quote:Inguma,
You are right about changing your life, but what people need to be aware of when it comes to real psychic attacks. Your attacker wants to control you and your live style. For example my attacker doesn't like me smoking. He lets me know it. articles I come across he lets me know it's because of smoking. Every change he gets it's smoking. I also here about me being materialist that I don't deserve a job I had because it paid 12.50. Also the work I did is a man's job. Men are suppose to do those jobs I need to work where woman work. I was an inspector for metal. I come across a website about metals and magic. He told me about working around metal, said that's why my attack hasn't stoppped. I would also go out and listen to a band once in awhile he told me I had to stay out because that's where you pick up negs. I had been in bars many times before my attacker and I never picked up a neg. The only thing negative your going to pick up is someone's attitude. I do realize that when you do these things it does open you, but i'm sure you will close back down. Hopefully there isn't an attacker oops neg around to enter you. I'm not going to let my attacker change my life. I rather change to be more loving then to stop smoking. I was also told by my attacker that I should go to church, sorry I don't have to go to church to hold God and love in my heart it's there. Most people in my opinion that go to church live a double standard live anyway. Really we all do depending on what button is pushed in us.

Criminal,

Sounds like your attacker is doing to you what my attackers do to me. They try to make you hypersensitive to EVERYTHING. Everything is wrong and nothing is safe or good or appreciated. Everything petty and little that most people ignore becomes a an act of murder. THank you for inspiring me again. This is how our boundaries are attacked and in some cases annihilated. Then they put their boundaries up for you to navigate through and you basically become their little wooden dummy. You move when they want you to, your mouth moves when they want you to.

This is why I keep saying, VALIDATE people! When something is constantly doing this to you, and manipulating how your emotions feel by manipulating your energy at the same time, you can't find stable ground to detach and see the bigger picture to break free. People jump all over you for being sensitive to such stupid stuff, blame you for it, and then you start thinking like the 18yr kid from Bruce's book...you're a failure, it's your fault, it ruins your self esteem...which is what these things want. Low self esteem = low energy which gives them more access. Next thing you know you're fighting a battle on two fronts, the attackers and the people you turn to for help.

Unless you're dealing with a Neg that takes off on the first sign of trouble, you can't do this alone. Your thoughts and emotions are always in question and over the dumbest, petty things.

Criminal...one more thing...

I know you think he's trying to stop you from smoking, believe that a woman shouldn't hold down a job, etc...that's not what he's doing.

I can tell you what will happen, b/c again, it's being done to me. Let's say you listen to him and you stop smoking. Pretty soon, after you get used to not smoking, maybe not even liking the smell of smoke/taste of Nicotine, he'll contradict himself and urge you to start taking up smoking again. Why? He doesn't want you to have ANY boundaries whatsoever. No belief systems, nothing structured or constant...a total zip. That's how he goes about fragmenting you (and how my Negs try to fragment me). It's a total brainwash job. Without boundaries/some structure, our sense of self and identities can't exist. We become empty little shells that these things can fill up with anything they want.

From a combination of being attacked constantly, not knowing what has happening to me, not being able to think or feel clearly, and getting "help" from a pair of daffy dimwits telling me things like, "If you don't buy me this, if you don't stop telling us things we do not want to hear, we'll let your whole family die,"...that was exactly what these things had turned me into...mindless, brainless, souless.

Then I was calling, emailing, faxing UFO groups at the Negs whim because they wanted me as a tool/vehicle to help them attach to certain individuals.

If you'll excuse I feel a punishment coming on

This was posted on page 4 of the "All in your mind" posting in the Psychic Self Defense Forum:

quote:Seriously, I am getting the feeling that certain members are using this forum to attract victims for various types of psychic attacks. This is a very serious issue. I think I might be able to help some of who really are experiencing psychic attacks. I do know of some individuals (including myself) who are very experienced in psychic combat/defense & can even remotely kill psychic attackers. What do you think of this?

That's it I'm sorry, I'm requesting that arakara be thrown out. In the begining it was just annoying. Personally, I don't know what one can really do with abilities, I was possessed before I got the chance to develop mine. I think this is going way too far (have I mentioned that he's also posted his full name, address, and phone number!).

I don't care if he's blowing smoke and hyping himself up, this is inappropriate and it's going way too far. I didn't come to this forum to learn how to kill people, I came here to try to relearn how to live.

Mick, Criminal, can either of you guys verify this...

Last night as I was being worked on, these things were manifesting more to regain access. Something I started noticing is that they have a tendency to show me exactly where they want to attach, and what they do (much like Criminal's perp does to her). Then I noticed something subtle...I was asssuming that if they were unzipping me to place some device in (could hear the angry chanting at my head of "We want this in, we want this in") that it was real time sight, that they were doing it that moment. COnstantly being bombarded by core image I decided to focus on the one thing that stayed constant...focusing on absolutely nothing. I noticed when I did that, the what they were showing me and all associations with it disappeared.

Are they showing me what they want to do to me as a sort of core image? Criminal maybe that's why your perp shows you all that stuff.

I need to know...

Has anyone noticed an increase in negative energy contacts/whatever?

The ones that have me have been manifesting more and more and I was just wondering if it was me (manifesting because I'm coming more and more out of their grip...or manifesting because something else is going on). Today, driving to church to get Holy Water they banged into the side of my car causing it to rock...the bang was followed by (as Mr. Spock would say) a colorful metaphor.