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My fear stops me from leaving my body, however. I am too scared of what's on the other side. Any tips to help get past this?

Learn to TRUST and believe in that TRUST!   

There is nothing that can hurt you. You can abort at any time. Just remember thought=action in these "realms". So if you think there is something fearful near you, then there will be. Go to your "Happy Place". Nothing bad can happen there! 

"But the question is, are there any self-evident truths, or very easily derived arguments about something we could deduce to be true of these other realities?"
 As for self evident truths...no. If it were self evident, the question need not be posed. I find it difficult to come up with some objective (as in applies to all in all situations) evidence for any other reality. Given what would currently be acceptable as evidence, we shall continue to grasp at straws. Only when subjective experience becomes a lynchpin in some new model or conception of our existence will we, finally, have traction to get to those answers. Materialism rules!...well,...not really...

I have two very strong self evident truths that I have arrived at. The first is that wherever we find ourselves, there is "Structure" of some kind. Not structures like "Architecture". I mean structure as a ruling enterprise/entity, whatever you wish to call it, that governs what can and can be done there. I used to think those rules were self imposed, but due to a couple of years of "observing", I have found that there is indeed a purpose for everything that happens in this and any other realms we may find ourselves in. Many of my adventures, during my Phase sessions" that is, will begin with a self initiated "imaginative" visual. But soon I find that this has changed into something not of my own makings and is has now completely taken on a life of it's own. My actual OBEs begin in the RTZ and quickly lead to some "Otherwhere", where I experience whatever it was I was chosen to see at that time.

The second self evident truth is that we/I am "relearning/remembering" something we/I once already knew. That truth comes from breaking through the veil and barriers of this physical existence and physical mind set, towards being able to "see" again. This has all occurred through the aid of some form of "guidance".
Just to quote part of Subtle Traveler's post here "One thing that I know for sure ... I cannot re-learn or remember or experience anything without non-physical help (e.g., guidance, higher self, other parts of me, past non-physical relationships)."

At this point I would like to ask you if you had read this article in The Atlantic.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/10/silicon-valley-is-obsessed-with-a-false-notion-of-reality/503963/
 

I read this when it first came out. It sounds like a great "plot" for a movie! 

Silicon Valley is working on all kinds of things to further mankind (Transhumanism). But they seem to be choosing the "tech" route, instead of the "it's already inside of you" and you can access it with a little work route. I can understand though in this "push button NOW generation". They are even working on creating robots that they seem to think would be "autonomous" as in having a consciousness of their own. I don't think they quite grasp how "consciousness" works. But then again, neither do I. So, it will be interesting to see what they can come up with.

If we forget about the terms "physical" and "non-physical" and call them all realities, things will get much simpler. Realities differ from one another by frequencies, thought responsiveness, stability, density, nature of collective energies, dominance of collective energies, etc. The multiverse is very complex, and with our limitations here we can only speculate.

I agree completely with Lightbeam's comments here. I prefer to call these areas that we find ourselves in "other realms" or simply just "other" and I like to say they are occupied by "others" as well. I like Kurt Leland's names for these realms. He calls them "Otherwheres".

I have been to realms that were only "grids". I was a point of consciousness in those experiences, with no physical body at all. Unfortunately I still maintained the knowledge of my physical ruleset here on Earth and because of that I had an extremely hard time adjusting to my new "locale". I got a strong feeling "vertigo" just trying to get my bearings straight. The grid warbled all over the place and kept creating itself before my eyes. I had a feeling it was "infinite". It was "alien" to me. But I am sure it had a purpose or served a purpose to some "other".

On another adventure, I found myself in a area where the "others' there were using my own mind to create a suitable "atmosphere/setting" for me. I could see what they were doing and asked them to stop that and to show me their "reality". They finally did and it was awesome.

I have also found myself in situations where there is a physical ruleset akin to Earth. Well, I actually thought it was Earth, except for the fact that "I" didn't need to follow their ruleset and that led to "time out" of sorts.

I have found that if you maintain the mindset of a Human while in these areas, that you will still be limited by that mindset until you begin to see outside of it. I use the term often here "change your mindset, you will change your reality" and not only does this help you achieve success in this practice in general, as of having a successful OBE/shift in consciousness, but it also helps you once you are "there", wherever that "there happens to be.

But one thing I know, experiencing a super slow energy reality like ours that require a vehicle in order to interact is rather unpleasant  

It is, but it's necessary to the greater cause!  

Do you know what the sound OM is?

You can find your answer in this AP download from Jurgen Ziewe:
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Free_Deep_Meditation_Sounds_-_Binaural_Beats.html

Good Luck!  

Campbell just knows the tricks.  They're there for you to learn as well.

I think the "trick" Tom knows is realizing and believing/knowing that it really is that easy.
 

The trick is to stop buying into the concept of physicality.  Once you break yourself from that, you'll begin to see reality in a much different light and it kind of loosens the hold it has upon you.  It's a slow learn though, as it was for me.

...in other words "change your mindset, changes your reality". How do you do that? You experience it enough times with an "open mind" and see/prove it to yourself.

LOL.... Yes, I see what your saying about the wife not "questioning it ha ha ha!

I know I am antisopating it, just cause I want it so bad. I have also had the pleasure of a partial separation.

Questioning it wasn't what I meant. Well, that was one part of it. The bigger part that hinders a person is the "expectations" and "pressure" they put upon themselves to achieve this.

I did try the one where you look at the candle (As you recommended to me in a previous post).
It work great for my wife. She ended up in the void state with in 4-6 min. First time she ever got there, she was really excited LOL.

But for me after a couple minutes the focus point seemed to dissipate. I will be giving it another go.

It might work easier for her because she isn't questioning it as much. She is just like, "ho hum, okay I'll give it a go". No expectations, no pressure. Do you see what I'm getting at here" *hint hint*!

It's natural for your focus to dissipate. Like I said, the average Human can hold their focus on a singular thing for about 8 seconds. In this practice, you are teaching/training yourself to hold it much more than that.

When the image disappears, bring it back. You will find you are so busy with the act of holding onto or creating this "target of your focus", that you have already shifted without even knowing what's going on. Like Tom Campbell once told me a long time ago "The NPR (Non Physical Reality/Realm) is just a simple shift away. We just have to learn to get out of the way and let it happen".

During my research I was directed to a site and found it interesting enough to share. I'm only supplying this as is and it has another viewpoint on our art.
https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/09/n05/Etheric_Notes.html#FirstLetter

That is a great read Szaxx. Thank You for sharing that.

I am on the first page and am kind of confused. He says this "(Note: It is impracticable to reproduce this sketch in color, on a mimeographed page, but the enclosed page may convey the basic idea. ml.)" and in his description he seems to be talking about a "map" or diagram, but there doesn't seem to be a map/diagram found anywhere on that page or the other pages of his notes.  
This is even more apparent when he says this ". . . To reach into the heart of the Etherian proposition immediately & somewhat technically, I am forwarding you the enclosed sketch and a few lines of commentary on it. The sketch is the best I can do at the moment, but may serve to explain what seems to me the fundamental concept of the nature and locale of Etheria.The colored circles ABCDE are to be understood as the traditional divisions of the "Inner planes", according, of course, to the ancient Oriental or Hindu conceptions, and thereby including most of the Theosophical, Rosicrucian, and Illuministic groups, not to mention the many incidental groups (Swedenborgians, Mormons, etc.)

These Inner planes must be distinguished very exactly from the circles numbered 1-2-3-4, which are "the Etheric".

The jagged lines are the mountains of our globe, rising as you see into the Etheric, and descending into the central circles A-B-C."


I do like his term "Etheria" though. It seems to give it more of targeted, reachable/attainable destination, somewhat like the "Astral Island" that so many people attempted/intended to access.

My current favorite technique, right now, would be any one that get be and kind of result. LOL!!

...and what technique have you chosen SCHMUSTIN?

The content of a lesson/simulation still appears to be largely drawn from my subconscious, but the actions of an independent agent, be it a Guide/Instructor/my Higher Self, has become clearly evident.

Add into this the certainty of the 'knowing' that also occurs.

This adheres to my comment earlier in this thread about the different cycles of Dreaming.:
  "I saw that my first Dream of the night had to do with "the now". It seemed to be whatever it was that I last experienced here in the physical, like a book I was reading, a movie I was watching, a job I was doing. Everything was based on this current time.

Next came things I was working on, as in, subconscious things or problems from my past. I would find myself in some kind of situation that was due to my past.

This was followed by a Dream scenario of "play time". This was kind of like a "recess" between schools, whereas I got some time to just enjoy being there.

Next was followed by "other". This is where things got foggy though. This was well into the Dream cycle and this seemed to be the real "training grounds" or school should I say. I say school because in this area there was a "teacher" of some sort. This is where the tests, quests and challenges were initiated."

There was a segment of the Dream cycle that was indeed "subconsciously driven". But as I got deeper into the cycle, I found that things quickly changed. The last one being the one where a "Teacher/Guide was present.
I guess it all depends on what cycle of the process that you find yourself becoming consciously aware in.

The same goes with Phasing. I begin using my imagination. But soon something that wasn't part of my "script" per se, begins to occur and leads me on some kind of adventure.

Thomas,
The level of belief changes with experience, the experience changes with belief. This is a conundrum yet it holds the answer to itself with a little thinking outside of the box.

Just to add to Szaxx's excellent reply here. When you think like a "Human" in a physical body, you will experience that in the other realms as well. You need to have an entirely different mindset and you also need to lose the analytical mind in the experience at hand. You can analyze everything that occurred afterwards.

I have experienced a spontaneous Guide as well while in a Phase session. Mine came in the form of my deceased Brother in law Charlie. He came, he taught me, then he left. I met him in many sessions when I was new to this practice. After that, the next Guides I met were actually invisible to me, but they were responsible for the "downloads" I received.

For me feels equally possible that both guides and dream content are merely reflections of the subconscious.

That was my first thought as well. I thought and was convinced that everything was a reflection of my subconscious. But like I have said in the past "just when I think I know, something changes to show me otherwise". That something was becoming aware in another existence where the people all knew me, but I didn't know them or even the location I found myself in. This would be a "fluke" if it were a "one of". But it wasn't. It happened repeatedly for nights on end and still happens today.

I use the term "parallel universe". But it's not really because it has nothing to do with my current existence here now. This seems to be me in a whole different World, in completely different circumstances than here. My entire personality is different there as well.

Edit: I guess the term Parallel Universe does still apply though, according to this definition from Wikipedia:
A parallel universe is a hypothetical self-contained separate reality co-existing with one's own. A specific group of parallel universes is called a "multiverse", although this term can also be used to describe the possible parallel universes that constitute reality

@Lumaza
If you still have or you know the names I am quite interested in the books on spiritual healing you mentioned.

MJ said to tell you that one book is "Anatomy of the Spirit" by Carolyn Myss, PH.D. She said that's a great book to start with. Once you finish with that one I can give you the names of some others.

Weather conditions I think have much to do with where it settles. Who it 'hits' just depends on who's receptive.

It's funny how you mention "weather conditions". MJ doesn't like to be anywhere near me when a severe storm approaches. I become a beacon of energy.

It's funny though, all the storms actually go around us. When they get near our home they seem to split. We hear the Tornado sirens going off, but we just watch while the storm passes by either North or South of us. That is though unless I am angry. The only time we really got hit was a time that I was extremely angry at events that were occurring at home. That night, our trees were being knocked down, the storm was so severe.  

 Nameless, sometimes you need to tell the energy to tone down a bit. I access this "energy" field daily in my "etheric exercises". Vessen's Vehram system is a excellent way to utilize this field. You already know of the daily Tetrahedral shield that I use, so I don't need put the link to that "Phantom Wiggle" thread here.

Last weekend I was at a Funeral that was a very sad situation. It was a younger Family member who had taken their own life, so I knew it would be hard for everyone around. Before I left I did my Tetrahedral Shield and asked for energy to help others and I through this tough day.

I began aiding people there however I could and all of a sudden I felt like I was going to explode. I almost passed out. Things were getting dark quick. I then quickly released some of the energy back to the "source" that was supplying it to me and I rebounded quickly.

Dolores Cannon talks about energy overload quite a bit. She also tells you that you can ask for it to be lessened if it gets to me too much.

 I second Xanth's reply "That's because there is no "standard" view for them.  Hell, they don't even objectively exist.
Visualize them however you need to in order to use them to effect change in yourself."

When I visualize my Chakra centers I see them as simple basic things that correspond to the color of that area. Examples: Root/red would be a flame, Sacral/orange would be a simple Orange/fruit, Solar Plexus/yellow would be a Banana, etc.
I live by the adage "KISS", which stands for "Keep It Simple Stupid".

I normally try to focus on what they feel like though. Robert Bruce's NEW (New Energy Ways) technique taught me how to do that.

Your 2D/3D is about as complexed as the true Merkaba Meditation is. One again, I made a simpler technique that I practice daily. You can find it in this thread here. Daily "etheric" exercise can help you learn how to move that energy around. Vessen's Vehram program is very good for that as well. It teaches you why things are working the way they are working.
My previous name on this Forum was Lionheart. That's the name I used when I made the posts in this thread.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/how_exactly_do_you_perform_the_phantom_wiggle_method-t44583.0.html

Great! Count me in!

Thanks for the reminder about slowing down.

Your Welcome Subtle!  

Slowing down basically undertakes us "observing" every single point of it, every step of the way or the cycle. Sometimes you need to "abort" just so you can actually log what you are seeing and experiencing. I know if I don't do that, I seem to forget many important things that are occurring along the way.

The same goes with a simple Phasing session. I sit down to have one, but only end up logging the adventure, not necessarily the path I took to get there. That seems to become a "afterthought".

I see it's easy for new people to have that problem too. I used to. I would put so much into always "pushing forward", that I would actually lose touch and memory of all the little things that happened along the way. Those little things are important as well.

If we could get a precise understanding over on how to feel every point of the body and then how to reverse this act leaving no bodily sensations, phasing would be easily accomplished by all.

Going deeper leads to a self generated image or if left as is, one will appear for a few seconds then others follow with increasing clarity. This leads to an exit assuming you stay aware of your being consciously in control.
I hope this is similar to others experiencing the same idea of controlled awareness and the phase in general.

My Journey with this came after a spontaneous adventure where I was using a method I read in the thread "LDing for Idiots" found here in the Dream Sub-Forum. Coincidentally, Nameless just actually bumped this thread today. (There are no coincidences, lol). Here is that post based on that Phase session. I was attempting a shift form a totally conscious state of mind, not from a Dream state.

"I just finished a Phase session where I used your cycling technique. In about 5 minutes I felt my physical focus waning. Then the strangest thing happened. I was doing step 3 (which is to notice any strange body sensations) and all of a sudden I had a full vision of my body. It was dark in the area and I was kind of like outlined in white energy. Then something that looked like a "Pac-man" head started to gobble my toes and work it's way up my leg, it did the same to the other leg and kept going higher. Piece by piece my physical body was being devoured. There was no pain or gore, since my body was just an outline. The sensation was incredible, the next thing I know my entire body is gone and I am in a land with the most vivid scenery and colors I have been too yet. The sensations of watching my body disappearing and then leaving me as just "total 100% conscious energy" was the most exhilarating I have ever had. The mental picture of this really drove that point home."

After actually experiencing that, I knew it was possible to do it again and like I said above, I use a similar technique still today to become "point consciousness". It still involves a visual of "dematerialization" of my limbs. But "Pac-man" isn't needed anymore, lol! 

I am definitely going be practicing this kind of experience again, and I will going back through this thread and reading the prior posts over the next week.

I think this might be a great intended goal for all of us here to try. See if you can slow the process down. Whether that "slowing" being as  you enter your nightly Dream cycles or when you awaken. Try to find the trigger that helps it commence and morph and the trigger that kills the experience immediately.

We can do some great personal experimentation with this and then share our conclusions and results as they begin to reveal themselves.

Eegad! My bad!

No harm, no foul! 

I was just stating something that I thought may confuse a person reading this thread for the first time. ....that is, those that aren't already confused by the whole conversation itself period. I know if I were new here, I would be!

There's far too many environments that can't be self generated. Those where you exist as a point of consciousness where the only perception is colour and a telepathic kind of communicating are definitely not from our physical mind.

True. The mind cannot even comprehend existing as a simple "point of consciousness". This is one of those situations that you just find yourself in spontaneously. But, you can learn to achieve this by intent. I find myself in a state of "point consciousness" often while just "chilling" in the void/3D darkness.

It starts by me focusing on watching my body disappearing/dematerializing slowly piece by piece. This is a very good technique for relieving pain. No body, no pain, no problem!  

The lack of people joining in a discussion on this level may be through a lack of experiences. That said, a conversation that reminds them of something may open the door to more participants. It'd be good to reflect on these and see where it leads.
It would answer a lot of questions that don't get asked.

That is my goal with many of my "deeper" threads and conversations here. To "trigger" something that they might remember. To have a meaningful conversation on what it is that is really happening. How do we expect the Scientific community to get a bead on this if we the experiencers can't ourselves? There is a number of things that we experience in common, although we may perceive them differently, they are still being experienced by a number of us. Case in point, look how many people here have some kind of deeper affinitization with the ET narrative.

Maintaining that focus within the dream state and not waking is a challenge. I played with this ages ago and found you can stay embedded if you replay the experience in order to recall it. You wake with full recall and it fades almost as soon as you wake. Later in the day something triggers the memory and once again you have full recall. It does mean your awareness has to be on target for recall or you miss it. A game of patience indeed. Any thought of the body or waking kills it although it is very similar to staying in the 3D zone respect to thoughts.

...and our resident "Guru" chimes in!   

Trust is the big issue, you need to trust yourself. <-- That's for the newbies. I think more experienced APers know this.

Trust will lead you past your fears. Trust will bring you to new places and new experiences. Trust will give you piece of mind! I could keep going on, but I think that "hint" has been received!  

I have read tons of responses here about the eyes opening. Now sometimes that might be a problem but not always. As for me, if my eyes insist on opening I let them, however I keep my focus on what I am seeing when they are closed and do not focus on the room I'm in. I've found that whatever I am seeing with my closed I will continue to see with them open. Just wanted to put that out there as it might help some who are having issues with this.

Some people have a problem with this during a Phase or actual OBE attempt. I don't think it happens from a Dream situation. I just wanted to state that so it didn't confuse anyone. In the last posts above we have been talking about situations related to Dream state.
...continue on Nameless!  

I know what you are talking about when it comes to the awareness. If you raise it too much it often ends the experience.

It's a fine "balancing act". But you can overcome it. You can raise your awareness quite a bit and still maintain full grasp of the scenario at hand. The problem comes when you attempt to change or alter the Dream narrative itself. When I do that, it seems like the Dream begins to spiral control. I balance this by keeping the notion that I am Dreaming as a simple thought in the back of my mind, but my real intent is to see whatever it is I am to see in the current "simulation" I am experiencing. I react consciously, but it's more like reacting to the situation itself, instead of reacting with full knowledge that I am Dreaming. Like I said, it's a balancing act and can get quite tedious at times.!