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Came out.  On Netflix too, no less.

Please, for the love of all things holy, DO NOT watch that "movie". 
Well, I mean... watch it, but ONLY for entertainment purposes only. 

If you're hoping to learn something from it, you'll be extremely disappointed... and if you BELIEVE any of it, you're only going to scare the ever loving crap out of yourself.

DO NOT WATCH THAT MOVIE.  Bad movie is bad.

Well now I am glad I called in to the show last night to try and create some sanity in the discussion and on the topic in general. Rodney actually seemed like he understood the phenomenon of SP. He even replied after I shared, that he too had experimented with slowing the process down and just observing it, instead of giving in to the fear. But as we all know, "fear sells", so it looks like he decided to take another path to this interpretation of the phenomenon in general.

Like Xanth said though, movies of this nature should be viewed for "pure entertainment only". I haven't seen the movie yet and don't really care to. But I can only imagine the horror that they created in it.

 I wanted to put this in this section because I am hoping that through Bedeekin's research and other members posts and replies here that the phenomenon of Sleep Paralysis has already been explained.

Now Hollywood wants to get the "fear juices" flowing again by this new movie coming out named "The Nightmare".
https://vimeo.com/125421779

I do agree though that SP can be one of the most terrifying experiences you will ever have. That is if your not in the "know". I have had some incredible SP experiences myself and still do today. Once you learn to overcome and face it head on you will see that you have opened up to a whole new sense of awareness. You will be consciously projecting.

Tonight January 2nd 2016 on Coast to Coast AM (check your am radio for time schedules), they are going to have the Director of the show plus a experiencer as the Guests. Here is the header to that show.
" The horror of sleep paralysis is very real. While science can explain the biological phenomenon, what it can't explain is why so many of its sufferers see eerily similar figures of shadowy human forms. A new documentary, The Nightmare (Watch Trailer), explores the terror through the eyes of eight sufferers. The film's director, Rodney Ascher, along with Forrest Borie who's had the condition for years, join Connie Willis (email) to discuss the pain, torture, and serious horror of this mysterious and debilitating condition."

I will be listening to this and will write a edit after I hear what they have to say. But I know I won't like what I hear. These radio shows seem to love creating the "fear hype". If it gets too out of hand I will call in during the call in portion of the show and return the topic at hand back to sanity. Will they "delete or omit" my call in, I will find out?

Edit: Ok, they did air what I had to say. Rodney didn't get into the nuts and bolts/scientific/medical explanations of AP. He basically spoke on the making of his movie and some of his own and other people's experiences with SP. He did bring up though that some people have reported that SP led to a AP/OBE.

In the first hour of the show, the guest was a gentleman named Forrest, who is a SP experiencer. The one question I really wanted to ask him was why he didn't research the topic any further. Connie asked him why or if he looked into it any further and he said no. But why? He stated this was the single most terrifying thing as person can experience. He was supposedly even in the movie. But still he didn't want to know why he was experiencing what he was. That doesn't make any sense at all to me!  

I did get a chance to explain some things about SP, but my words of sanity seemed to be pinned between 2 other callers of opposing views. Oh well. I wanted to say the name of this Forum here, but I don't think they allow that on the air. At least the listeners of the show heard another point of view on the topic.

All in all the discussion was handled very well. I like Connie. She doesn't subscribe to the constant fear talk like the regular host George does.

I think that much of this personality is what we refer to as the ego, in varying forms. When I question myself about it, the part that reacts is the part that is afraid of dying, of being left behind, of passing into non-existence...

I think the "part that is afraid of dying, being left behind, of passing in non-existence" is indeed the ego also know as our "identity". It's our sense of "oneness" or sense of self before we move back to the collective. It's all that we have accomplished, everyone we knew and all that we were. Basically any trait with the word "we" or from a first person "I" before it applies.

You don't get rid of "ego" until you transition for good and who knows it may follow you there as well. Learning to "control" ego is most likely one of the most importance lessons we can learn here in this existence. I feel that's as strong as learning to love. Love and Ego are experienced in almost every aspect of our lives.   

I haven't ready any of his experiences and my understanding is that Tom doesn't share them. If true, why? That is definitely counter-intuitive.

Tom doesn't share his experiences for the same reason that most experienced members here on the Astral Pulse Forums don't and that's because we don't want people to "mimic" and "expect" to see our experiences there. What you see is personal. It's what "you" need to see at this time in your evolution. If Tom told you he was first experiencing some kind of "tunnel. Many people would search for that tunnel, instead of seeing or experiencing what they "needed" to see. You never want to have "expectations" when you project. You just create the proper "atmosphere" needed to project and see what you see, go where you "need" to go.

I have shared a couple of things here on the Astral Pulse, but only as examples. Like the others here, I realize the importance of keeping things to ourselves.

We here at the Astral Pulse will help anyone that is serious to learn this "Art". We will give you tips to project. We will help you understand what you are seeing. You said you haven't projected yet, so this may be hard for you to understand. But once you do, you will realize what we are saying here. It completely gives you a different "mindset" on what is and what isn't. But you need to see it for yourself. Only then will you know. Please understand though my statement here isn't meant to "demean" you. It's only to help you understand.

Tom has helped me via email to understand some of the things that I experienced and I am grateful for that. I'm not "all in" on all of his theories. But I understand what he is saying.

 I don't find in my personal observations that a "Sleep Pattern" or certain Sleep schedule really matters. I know that some people have reported OBEs, (like myself) after a day of heavy exertion though. I have also had some pretty vivid LDs after pulling a "all nighter". There was no drinking involved in that though. It was purely a experiment to see if a projection could be enhanced from a completely exhausted state, just as I had after a day of physical exertion when I was much younger. It did produce a faster timetable for a projection. Though my method of shifting was during a LD. I also experienced some pretty vivid and lengthy False Awakenings by using the "all nighter" induction. One of them had me actually thinking that I was physically awake for an entire day before things began to "trigger" me to the fact that I was still Dreaming. It was quite "surreal".

There is also a "pre sleep induction" method that it is written about here by a former member named Bedeekin. You can find that info in this link here: http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/fantastic_obe_technique_bedeekins_method-t31819.0.html

 +Explore+, here is a link to other possible "signposts" you might experience as well. But just like with vibrations, passively observe them and stay the course. You can log them in your Journal and question them once your AP session is completed.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/exit_symptomssignposts-t46206.0.html

Good Luck!

So what's about people seeing their body or about this Silver cord connected to your body?

I never have "seen" any kind of cord Silver or other. But I have experienced the sensation of "spring back". Which seemed like I was being pulled back into my body from something or someone behind me.

Apparently talking about "clarity now" yesterday finally got it into my sub conscious because I had a break through in last night's astral projection.

I find that many times here when people reply to other member's posts that they themselves seem to "reap the rewards" of that sharing as well. I always reread my posts here to see if I could be also answering my own questions. I also do it to see if I need to add something or edit my reply in general. Just talking about a AP topic in general keeps you in the "mindset" needed for "deeper" and continued projection.

Just above EV had posted the importance of "handling" this new vehicle. That may be what is causing "blocks" in many people, even the one that posted that quote above. 

Thaomas I try to avoid the physical requirements of the "other realms". I try to see everything now as I would from a single point of consciousness. This new thinking has given me great "clarity" in the NP. A single point of consciousness never has to have it's feet on the ground. A single point of consciousness has no feet! 

That new mindset comes deeper into the LD scenario. There is normally a progression beginning with a 3rd person view, then to a 1st person view,  finally the finale is a single point of consciousness view. The last one leads to some really mind blowing experiences.

You may ask what's the difference between 1st person and a single point of consciousness. With the 1st person view I am still "considered" a physical entity. I have appendages and have access to all of my regular physical senses. With a single point of consciousness I just "am". No appendages and there seems to just be the sense of "knowing". Telepathy is the only mode of communication here. Thought to thoughts being transferred immediately. Information shared at warp speed. But still the quests and challenges remain in navigating/handling that "new vehicle" of consciousness.

It can be somewhat frustrating early on learning how to handle this new vehicle of consciousness that you occupy.

Your entire post was fantastic EV. But I had to really pinpoint the quote above because it explains so many different experiences that we will find in the "NP/other realms", whatever name people wish to use.

Everywhere you go in the NP you are being challenged to "handle this new vehicle". Everything you do works towards it.

One of my first APs was with a deceased brother-inlaw. His name was Charlie and had the upmost respect for him here in his physical realm. He was one of the leading historians for Minnesota. He was also a member of the Knights Templar and also a former Grand Commander for the Minnesota Chapter. I always looked up to him.

One day he showed up in one of my APs and he stayed as a "mentor" of sorts for about 2 months. One of the first things he taught me was depth perception. I found myself at some auditorium and Charlie was speaking on the stage. He then reached down, picked up a bow and arrow and shot the arrow right at me. The scene then hit slow motion as the arrow approached me. It was one of my first realizations that there of a true 3D view. Then one by one he taught me how to "navigate" the NP.

After about 2 months of visitations he just disappeared and I have never seen him since. In the beginning I had never had the intent to see him. His visits were completely spontaneous.

Through the last years I have seen a change in these "vehicles of consciousness". Every time I experience a block or find myself in a "higher level" per say, I find that I have to learn to navigate this new area all over again. The blocks occur to force me to "find another way" to access the NP. That's why I constantly experiment with new methods and new ways to access the NP. 

Now lastly to answer the Ops initial question " Is there anything that I can do that will help me be able to control my body more?", yes, 4 words "Experience it some more". The more we experience this, the more we learn. We are being taught all the time there. The more we access this new "area" the more we get to learn how to navigate it or as EV put it above "learning how to handle this new vehicle of consciousness".

You could also think of your "happy place" while you are in that state. Visualize it in your mind and you will soon find yourself there. While there though, do some exploration. A  new exciting adventure always awaits you! 

 Here's a question for you Thaomas and anyone else that wishes to reply. "Does consciousness or soul as you say have a physical measureable weight?"

The reason I ask this is because there has been research undergone on this subject that supposedly proved that "something" left the body upon a death. Actually, the weight recorded was 21 grams.

Momentary flashes, glimpses, concepts, etcetera such as these, are no doubt frustrating in ways, yet the intrigue of the fact of their existence should excite us to continue on.

...and they do just that. Curiosity has always been known to be a powerful motivator! The "drive" is always "alive! 

What's really nuts is going somewhere and knowing where the shops are

...or knowing the people in the Dreams even though you never met them in this current physical reality. This happens so many times that it  led me to believe that "parallel universes" actually do exist. Once maybe a fluke, but too many to count and you know it's for "real".

[ENJOY IT!]

The fun part is that when I have these kind of dreams where I know I'm dreaming but don't at the same time, I have the most awesome dreams and they last for a long time, and usually end up flying all over the place and do stuff I wanna do when I lucid dream.

ENJOY IT!   You are correct, sometimes when we become aware or Lucid that we are actually dreaming, our focus changes back towards our physical selves again, thus ending the experience then and there.

So, why do these kind of LD's happen, or how can I deal with them?

It is a fine balancing act to "know" you are Dreaming, but staying with the scenario at hand. Your question above makes it sound like you are distressed with this. like I said above "ENJOY IT". Not everyone can do what you are doing. Well, everyone "could" if they put their mind to it, but not everyone will. Sometimes being and "staying" Lucid will lead to a "lifetime" Dream. Those are incredible. You normally will awaken briefly and find that you go right back into the previous Dream scenario, but find that time has elapsed and you are older.

How do you "deal" with them. Go explore. You know you are Dreaming, so the skies the limit, as they say. But in this instance, there is no limit. Go have fun.

It's not that you know, but then don't know you are Dreaming. It's more that you know, but now you just return to the experience at hand and ignore that knowledge that you know. It's always there in the back of your mind though and there's usually enough DTs (Dream Triggers) to be found that are constant reminders to you.

That is exactly the way that I have taught myself to experience LDing. I found earlier in my experiences that as soon as I realized I was Dreaming that my excitement to this new knowledge would always kill the experience. I had to learn to know it, but to just keep doing what I was doing. It made it fun though because I became fully aware of my actions and could change many things in the scenario at hand if I opted to. But, I normally just go with the scenario at hand. I find there is always a reason that we were led to that place/event/experience in the first place.

Many times when I first become aware I am Dreaming it is from a 3rd person view. Once I become fully aware I find myself in 1st person view.

EDIT: Doh, EscapeVelocity beat me to the punch again, lol.    Everything EV said above ^^^^^ 

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Yes ofcourse it's with us but connection is lost i mean not dirrectly but i hope you understand cuz if it was tuned with us from the begning for all people , earth would be a wonderfull planet i mean the procces of it tunning with us something must start it i always here senteces like this

That's what "clutter" does.

- Unlock your subconscious mind , Unlock some parts of your brain and advices like this but noone really speaks about how must this process be done maybe i have wrong view about this i don't know so asking help here : P

Learn to listen! You don't have to unlock part of your brain or do some "process". You need to LISTEN to what it is saying. Astral Projection/Meditation, quiet times teach you to do just that!  

There is another mode where you try to see without engaging your eyes at all.

That "mode" becomes automatic when you allow it to. You need to immerse your entire focus into the scene at hand, but just passively at first. This is where the real balancing act begins. How to hold that focus without falling asleep or becoming aware of your physical self again. That is where many people fail. That's why "trial and error" is basically all you can in the early stages do to learn this Art. Either that or wake up to it spontaneously.

You then log your results so you can see what works and what didn't. Soon you will have developed a trustworthy personal technique. Then when you think you are comfortable with it, everything changes and you are back to square one again, lol. You are constantly challenged to progress and evolve. You can't progress when you keep doing the same thing over and over again.

How we tune with our higher self?

It's always there. Astral projection just gives us the medium to get rid of the "clutter", so that we can finally hear it.

We don't get in tune with it, it gets in tune with us! 

On the other hand I constantly find accounts from top athletes that speak about having out of body experiences. These individuals are not trying and often they are unaware of what they are doing.

I have heard this as well. But I think the "catalyst" here was "physical exhaustion", instead of "physical fitness".

I say this because I remember as a teen I was helping my Father unload a transport truck at his work that was filled with heavy boxes. That night I was completely spent when I went to bed.

Somewhere along the night I found myself on my bedroom floor crawling. I was screaming for help, but nobody in my home heard me. it wasn't until I began learning more about Astral Projection and OBEs that I realized my experience was a spontaneous OBE.

I have heard the same account from other people as well. They had a spontaneous OBE after some kind of tedious physical exertion.

Is this normal? what is happening?

You are becoming "aware" of what was always there! 

Like always, description doesn't really match awesomeness of experience but thought I should share. Thanks.

Yep, it never does. Words alone can't describe what is experienced in the "other realms". It's hard to put our "emotions" and "sense of awe" into words.

Congratulations 2fly! 

These feelings aren't non-physical either, I have tested my body with my fingers and even when the beat isn't in the heart it is physically real. I don't know how or why that happens.

Just curious Thaomas, how do you check your physical body and still maintain your NP focus? I know there are devices like EEG monitors that can do that, but I would think that the moment you put your focus back on your physical body, that anything you tested would be from a physical body oriented stand point, thus negating any true statistics during a NP focus, shift/projection.

I have experienced a rapid heart beat many sensation many times, but I just stay the course and it soon subsides. One of the famous authors of AP, I think it might have been Robert Peterson, says that when you AP, you need to have the mindset that if this is the end, so be it. It was either Robert Peterson or Robert Monroe that said it. Come to think of it, it might be both of them.

When i try to astral project my heart always beats really fast when i'm getting close to separation and it scares me because i think i'll have an heart attack or something?
Is this common? and why does this happen?

This is a "exit symptom", but it seems to also seems to be a fear test. Many Meditators/ AP Projectors have experienced this. So many that there have been medical tests performed on Meditators while they are meditating to see if there really is a rise in heart beat. No changes in heart rhythm/beat have been recorded though.

Well, it's kinda frustrating to be in the dark constantly. I just wish to "switch the light on". But yeah, I understand what you mean by exploring.

...what's that in my hand? A flashlight. How did that get there? Every explorer needs a flashlight in a dark cave! 

 You know there's another way to look at this as well. Perhaps you landed in a place that you "needed" to be in. Maybe there is something there that would help your further development. I always read how everyone wants to "change" things there. Why not explore where you are and find the purpose why you are there in the first place?

Believe me, when you begin to explore" you will have no problem at all finding all kinds of interesting adventures awaiting you there. Let your "curiosity" be your driving force.

First off EXCELLENT feedback guys. Finally we have opened a conversation on the Astral Pulse that is near and dear to me!  

That is fascinating, I assume that an astral timeout means you are just mysteriously unable to project or dream for a while. I suppose I do find it hard to believe - what if you tried to force your way in with a powerful psychedelic?

Good question. I never attempted it, so I can't answer that. All I know is I was specifically told something. I went against it not realizing the seriousness of the instruction and found myself unable to access the "other realms" through any of my techniques that previously were successful Now, I would have just written that off as pure coincidence, except for the fact that when I finally could get back 3 weeks later, I was told in uncertain terms that that was why I was unable to and next time to heed what was said. I didn't take up conscious projection as a "cool I can fly" thing. When I first began, I was all in and I put my intent out that I would be a good pupil and learn all I could. That I was dead serious about this.

I did a search on astral police and found Szaxx's account of visiting the Whitehouse. That really blew my mind.
What about the possibility of an intangible force that connects consciousness. For example you put a question out to the universe and the answer finds you through a person with no direct relation. Perhaps the retrievals are magically determined by what souls resonate in that moment through relevant experience.

I also had quite an "Astral Police" adventure. I found myself in a foreign neighborhood. The local kids were doing tricks on their Skateboards. After awhile of watching them I asked them if they wanted to see something really cool. I then leapt from the spot I was up to the roof of the home across the street. The kids freaked out, but not in a good way. The next thing I knew I had some "Police" chasing me along the rooftops. Needless to say, I aborted that session soon afterwards, lol.
My first Retrieval was spontaneous. I didn't even know what it was when it occurred, until I came here to the Astral Pulse, shared my adventure and was told by members here what it was. My user name at the time was "Lionheart". I started this thread.http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_projection_experiences/souly_for_retrievals-t37273.0.html
After a time they became a regular event. But now they seem to be much more sporadic. They themselves show that there is "structure" in the other realms.

Almost all accounts of Alien Abduction in the US are also described the same way. What they describe sounds exactly like sleep paralysis and lucid dreaming but a widespread notion of aliens generates a consistent experience. If you jump overseas to Japan you find the same sleep paralysis episodes but the evil entity is always ghosts like the movie The Grudge because that is what people there think about.

I would imagine that most people are aware of the tunnel concept being associated with death even if they have never heard of a near death experience. My partner's grandmother also experienced the same tunnel. People on DMT trips tend to also describe it, but if you went to a location where the core beliefs are that it would be a green jungle I suspect they would experience that instead.

That is very true about the Alien abduction scenarios. Those are actually reported "World wide" though. But different cultures do have a different take on SP. The "Old Hag" is just one of them and yes that is due solely to their personal beliefs.  They don't encounter that through NDEs though. They are stuck in SP and we know that this is a period where thought = action. I'm sure a person that has just passed over is not thinking of walking in a tunnel with others that have done the same. I have a friend, or should I say had one, he transitioned 2 months ago, he had a couple of life altering NDEs about 5 years ago. He had liver failure and died. They replaced it. It didn't take, infection set in and he died again. What I could see was that he was given 5 years to set his life straight, to right all of his wrongs. When he came back, he was a completely different person. My wife named him the "Good Randy". She never cared for the old one. But he died for good of a heart attack 2 months ago in his living room.

So yes the "core beliefs" are definitely responsible for many of our SP/AP adventures. But I see it's different in NDEs. These people don't know they are returning. They are experiencing this new realm and at the moment are "all in" as well, but not by their own admission.

Szaxx and EscapeVelcocity, I couldn't add anything to what you have already said if I tried. Once again, you hit a BULLSEYE!  
EV, I especially enjoyed the way that you incorporated Frank's, Kurt's, Robert's and Fred's view on this. It shows they are all talking about the same areas and places, but using their own words and terminology to describe them.

Who does acutally that tests ? - Your mind , spirit guards or?

I have in the past and still do question this today. I made a thread based on this premise and question in the past here, but it really did not get a lot of feedback.

At first I felt that everything was self-imposed. That it was our "higher self" that was 100% responsible for all of the "tests, quests and challenges" that we experience in the "other realms". But the deeper I got into conscious projection the more my thinking changed.

I then came to the conclusion that it was "Spirit Guides" that were guiding our experiences there. But then I changed that thinking upon witnessing even more.

There is some kind of "structure" there. That structure has dos and don'ts. That structure has rules and if you don't abide by them, you will find yourself in some kind of "Astral Timeout". I'm sure this gets you laughing and I thought it was a joke too. I personally experienced a "ban" of sorts. The words "Astral Police" have been used on this Forum as well. Use that phrase in a Forum search and you will find more posts and threads that speak on this topic here.

Also, some people experience and aid in "Retrievals" there. For that to be possible there has to be some kind of structure. If there wasn't, then who is responsible for directing us towards the souls that needed to be retrieved and if there wasn't structure why would anyone need to be retrieved? There are more questions then answers when you begin to learn more about how and why something works in any realm, this physical one included.

Many people that experience NDEs speak of a tunnel that they and other deceased people are walking through. If there is a such a thing, then someone must have made this "tunnel concept". Upon further investigation the researchers found that these people had no knowledge whatsoever beforehand of what a NDE even was. So the idea that they all just simply made it up doesn't seem plausible at all.