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assuming that we will never actualy know the secrets of the universe and of life, how many of you would give up your existence if you actually got to know the answers to it all? everything.  if there was a god if not what was where first and before that.

don't get too picky on the details here about dying and the such.  it's just meant to rattle some heads.

i've found sitting in a chair w/ just your arse on the very end of the seat while in the lotus position to be extremely comfortable.  your knees drop down to a good height and you can adjust that by moving forwards or backwards.  it also feels kinda wierd to have your entire body suspended by just your tailbones while there isn't anything else touching your body.  kinda like your floating in that trance state. sorta.

i've debated whether or not to post this as i may be the only one experiencing this but here goes.  when i log on i usually just hit the 'active topics' button at the top of the page.  it seems the most convenient way to stay on top of the posts.  the 'resources' button is directly on top of that.  if you brush your mouse pointer over top of the 'resources' button a drop down list appears.  at the top of the drop down  list there is a 'what's new' menu button.  i like to click fast on the puter probably like most of you .  i log on and go directly to the active topics button and click it.  very close to every time i try and do this i drag the mouse pointer down to the active topics button fast but slowing as i near it, brushing past the 'resources' button and accidentaly bringing up the drop down menu w/ my mouse pointer directly over top of the 'what's new' button, which is then directly over top of the 'active tops' button.  try it if you don't know what i mean.  i always end up clicking the 'what's new' button instead of the 'active topics' button and the funny thing is the term "what's new" comes to mind in a sarcastic taunting inner voice making fun of me sorta for once again clicking the 'what's new' button.  maybe i'm not alone on this and if i am maybe this will subconsciously implant this mis-mouse-point into your brain so i will not be alone anymore.

what is perfection?  how do you know?  have you or we ever actually seen anything truly perfect? if not, where did the idea come from in the first place?

if there is a god, is that god perfect?  if that god is perfect is that god capable of making anything imperfect?

what do you think, innate or taught?  and if taught, innate in the teachers?  

also gimme some opinions on what you guys think about being forgiven.  what do you think about doing something that you know is wrong but knowing that you are supposed to be forgiven for it if you ask?  after all it is in our nature to do wrong as well as right.  if their truly is a judgement, will all be forgiven, given the true nature of man? if there is a judge to judge it would make sense that the judge would be wise enough to understand that mistakes are made, right?

more, can you abuse the forgiven thing assuming that it exists and how do you think it would effect the outcome of whatever the outcome is by thinking along those lines?

is god mentioned in star wars?  i don't know too much about star wars but the movies are excellent.  i'm wondering if it takes place in the future.  i assume so w/ the light sabers and such.  i was thinking that god may be 'the force'.  maybe the same force that holds all them little atoms and nucleuses and such together that science can't figure out.

does anyone know how to change the time on this forum to your personal time zone?  is it in aussie time now?

does anyone else have the problem of your vision descending while you're trying to stare at an object for long periods of time?  if i'm meditating w/ my eyes open and trying to concentrate on an object that is anything but in the lowes part of my field of vision, my focus point slowly drops down until it can go no further.  it's not really a problem because i just place the object at that spot now but it would be nice to be able to focus on something in a different place.

i can't recall most of the projections that i've had.  they happened spntaneously and were very vague.  i do remember opening up my physical eyes once and i was pulled back into my physical.  when moving limbs or any other part of your body do you have a sense of physical movement while on the astral, or do you mentally move yourself and then get a feeling of it?  i remember trying to stay still the few times that i t hought i was out and wondering if i moved would i actually move my body.

i saw this somewhere and couldn't resist to post it here.

10,000 bottles of beer on the wall
10,000 bottles of beer
take one down, pass it around
9,999 bottles of beer on the wall

i was intent on projecting last night even if it meant dosing off for  a second until the projection reflex kicked in.  i meditated and did a decent amount of energy work.  i slowly drifted off for what i estimate to be about a minute or two and was brought back able to project.  there were no exit symptoms which isn't uncommon for me and i popped out pretty easily.  

i ended up in what seemed to be the same house i was sleeping in but the furniture was different.  i flew around and was pulled back to my body.  i didnt move and had about six different projections in about fifteen minutes.   at first i thought these were all projections but now i'm not sure that they weren't ld's.  everything was extremely clear and at one point i was flying around a huge city.  i must have started to think about sex because i started to have incredible urges.  i remembered that i'm usually brought back to my body if i act on them so i fought them off as best i could.

during the last projectioni found myself in my astral/dream body lying on the floor.  i felt a presence rubbing my leg.  this is my third or fourth encounter w/ an incubus/sucubus type and i wasn't afraid  like i was the previous times.  the other encounters i had like this were fought off by me because i wasn't sure what was going on and i felt uncomfortable.  it took some effort but i managed to break my paralysis then.  

this time however i wasn't paralyzed but everything happened so fast and so strong that i didnt think i could fight it off.  i tried grabbing and moving it but it just grabbed tighter.  i figured i might as well go along w/ it if i couldn't fight it.  i believe i read that you are supposed to receive an extra special orgasm from this type of encounter because of the extra  energy that is being exerted as you do.  this proved to be very true.

i'm very thankful that no one else was in the house because i came to making noises like no guy should and i know i would have woken everyone up in the house.

this wasn't a bad experience at all but i am wondering what i should do to ward off or prevent future occurences.  i wouldn't want to start a steady relationship w/ this.  especially if im just going to be used like this... i didn't even get her  name.

i know it's  possible to send energy to more than one person at a time  but how effective would it be the more people that you had as recipients?

would it be possible to start some kind of subconscious list that you wouldn't have to remember the names of?

would it be possible to add people to a list in my head that i didnt have to remember, and still send them all healing energy at the same time by asking my higher self or whatever method i use to just send it to the people on that list?

i'm not sure i understand the general consensus on the physical worlds relationship to the astrals or any other.  is the astral thought to be completely non-physical?  is it just existing at such a higher rate of vibration that we consider it non-physical? maybe the level that it exists at is physical to those that inhabit it, in a way.

i ask because i'm wondering if knowing a good deal about physics, quantum mechanics specifically, would help w/ the possibility of learning telekinisis.  

i believe i've read somewhere that if you have a nice background on biology and anatomy that it would help when you were performing healing tek's.

i read that tk is more of a just do it type of action, which makes me wonder if the astral or all of these energies that we raise do exist on some sort of physical plane and we have a great deal  of knowledge about them and try to incorporate that into using tk, would that actualy hinder your ability because you wouldn't be just doing, you would be thinking it through

i had a dream the other night where i thought iwas flying.  i'm not sure if it was lucid or not because i didnt know i was dreaming but had total control over where i was going.  i started to levitate while meditating in my dream and i thought 'i gotta be dreaming.'  

i did the text and the light switch reality ck and neither one of them proved like they were supposed to that i was dreaming.  the letters stayed the same and the light went on and off.  i concluded that i wasn't dreaming and proceeded to a friends house to tell him how i learned to fly.  
 
the dream lasted about an hour or so and i really thought i could fly.  it was very dissapointing when i awoke .

last night i laid down to fall asleep.  after about ten minutes i felt a mild case of vibrations.   this came from not doing any trance or energy work.  there was also music playing that i could hear quite clearly.  i wasn't paralyzed either.  i had this wierd feeling like i was about to be spoken to for about five minutes. i decided not to try and project but to just sit there and enjoy them. everything went away...or i fell asleep i can't recall which.  it was good.
fred

this is just to let everyone know that the last two or three projections i've had were from me lying on my side.  they were very comfortable and i popped out w/ ease.  unfortunately i woke up to the vibrations every time so they weren't completely conscious projections.  i know there is this universal think that projecting from your side is unfavorable if not impossible but it's whatever feels most comfortable to you, not what the book says.  it may be worth a shot to some of you . happy flying
fred

i believe it's important, especialy for the beginner, when doing any type of obe practice that you focus on one thing and stick w/ it until you are very comfortable w/ it.  make each step very familiar before moving onto the next phase.  

if you are having trouble projecting then maybe when you lay dow next time your goal should just be to settle into a nice trance state and have some good thought.  this will take the pressure off of you to project and may even induce a spontaneous projection because you may be more relaxed w/ no pressure on you.  

if you are having trouble getting into  a trance state maybe your goal should be to raise energy and activate all of your chakras.

this stuff takes time and the more familiar you are w/ each step the faster you are going to be able to project when you finally do cross that threshold.  if you over develop yourself in all of the other areas you will be able to project consciously consisitently w/ confidence.

each step in the obe process is also a goal, not just something to get past. happy flying
fred

alright a few of you guys on this forum claim that you have been successful at tk.  after all i've been shown already i m still skeptical about this ability.  i have been practicing a few weeks w/ the intention and belief that i can do it.  these intentions and beliefs have been wholehearted and if it's possible to do this i will be able to.   when im   practicing it i put aside all disbelief.  

i believe there was alredy something written in another post about that randi challenge or something like that .  i'm wondering why some of you that say you can do this fairly well don't take up the challenge.  i definetly recall reading some posts where people have said that they are doing this all day.  it would make a lot of sense if this challenge were met.  there seems to be some respect and a lot of money to gain.

fred

does anyone know if you can stretch your eyes safely, or if it's harmful to keep them rolled up like that?

it would make sense that they could be stretched but i wouldn't want to try this new tek and have the chance of hurting myself.  
fred

i belive that everyone would agree that there is this invisble veil when trying to communicate on the internet, especially to people that you don't know very well or that you have never met before, that makes it hard to get your personality across.

it's very hard to get across emotions, emphasis and especially sarcasm through any type of text.  there is always that feeling of not knowing if what you wrote is going to be taken the wrong way or not when writing something that has some of your personality in it.  there is also that feeling of not knowing if you are going to offend anyone or not.  

the other perspective shows that maybe you don't know how someone else is coming across.  maybe you don't know if  you should feel offended by something or if you should be laughing at what you think is a sarcastic remark.  we can't sit and type every feeling, or emphasize where we would like to  for every sentence, EXCEPT FOR THE CAPS.  even then, who can be sure it wasn't meant to yell instead of emphasize differently.  smiley faces seem to be suffecient.  i know that when i do type something along the lines of ' i was just kidding,  ' or ' not to offend,'  that i feel that i'm being fake because i would never say anything like that to someone that i was talking to unless  it was an extreme condition, and i feel better typing on here if i can think of people instead of just screen names.

myself, and i'm sure many others on here have a great personality and i would like to be able to address everyone on the forum, and would like to be addressed as we have been friends for ten years.   it should be known that there isn't anyone on this forum that wants to offend anyone in anyway.  

i've recently made a few responses to some posts that could have been taken the wrong way if i hadn't said i was kidding.  when i type that it makes me feel further away.  i believe every response should be heard and not read.  if you were to imagine a friend of ten years sitting next to you saying the words that you were reading, it may make for a better interpretation.  feeling comfortable and uninhibited makes for a very nice atmosphere.  i say let the words and the love fly.

fred

while doing some reading i found out that scientific studies show that when the left nostril is open the right hemishphere of the brain is more dominant , activatving the more creative, feeling side of the mind.  when the reitht nostril is open the left hemishphere of the brain is dominant, facilitating more analytical, rational, and intellectual mind activity,  yogis observed tehis phenomenon thousands of years ago and developed a sophisticated practice called 'alternate nostril breathing,' or nadi shodhanam, in which they deliberately changed the flow of air through the nostrils to balance their psychophysiology.  they believed that when the right nsotril was open the surya, or sun/heating element, was dominant and that when the left nostril was open the chandra, or moon/cooling element, was dominant.  by opening and closing the nostrils in varying patterns one coudl adjust the physciolgy of the body just like regulating a hot band cold faucet to  produce warm water.  

maybe this could be incorportated into helping project.

fred

hello.  i'm wondering if someone would tell me what an out of body experience is, and how i would go about having one.  thnx a bunch
fred

i've waited as long as i could to post this problem i've been having.  i wanted to be able to kind of do it on my own.  i'm not impatient and have been doing a great job at not being discouraged by my reversal in progress, but i am done being stubborn and would like to get past this.

the first few months that i started to do any type of obe practice  i was able to settle into a nice trance state w/ in about ten minutes of me sitting down. i've been in a deep trance several times also.  after three months or so i started to progressively lose my ability to enter a trance state completely.  i was able to get my entire body except for my neck in the trance state w/ in ten minutes, no matter how long i've waited.

i've tried various different positions and relaxation tek's.  i've never had any problems w/ my neck.  it doesnt feel like muscle tension but more similar to an uncomfortable feeling around the base of my neck.  if you lifted your chest up as high as you could and breathed in hard and fast until you felt a stabbing or a pinching pain at the base of your neck, where there is a gap in between your collar bones, you would have a good idea on what it feels like.  this feeling spreads up towards my chin slightly the deeper i relax. recently i've been noticing that my breathing affects this feeling somewhat,and vice versa.  

i believe i'm already a deep breather.  i've been meditating for quite some time now and have learned how to breathe the right way because of it.   i just picked up a book on breathing to make sure that i m doing that correctly.  i've noticed that when i exaggerate the deep breathing that's done when you try and fill the lower part of your diaphram up instead of the top of your lungs, that it has taken the uncomfortable feeling and moved it down some towards the middle of my chest.  sometimes it goes  away completely for a few seconds, which lets me slip into a full trance state momentarily, before the feeling arises again and pulls me back out of it.

i believe this breathing book i picked up today is going to help me w/ this some, but i m not sure that this is the only problem.  i believe that this is the last obstacle i have to overcome to be able to project consciously consistently.  i feel that i'm  overdeveloped in all of the other areas of oobe compared to me being able to reach this trance state now.  my energy work is going exceptionally well thanks to tom, who has been attuning me, and the few recent times that i've been out have felt great.  those times that i have projected have been from waking up into the symptons of projection.  the last three times have been from me lying on my side.  the vibes don't scare me at all and i don't even have to use a prj tek.  as soon as i want to get out i  pop out.

i know this doesnt sound like one of the normal prj problems but any thoughts at  all would be appreciated.

fred

has anyone had any experiences w/ the tubelike structures mentioned in ad?  robert explains that they are gateways to the astral.  i have been inside these gateways probably close to one hundred times.  i was on lsd most of  the times,  but i know it wasn't a hallucination because sometimes after meditating for a long time i can see it very vaguely.

actually, the experience that i had w/ these gateways is what brought me to the bookstore to find out what they were.  i happened to pick up ad when got there and flipped to the page where it was describing the 'tunnel', as i'd been calling it.  this is what got me started in all of this.  i didnt have any prior knowledge about these gateways, and the description in the book is exactly what i was describing to my friends, who told me i was tripping, which i was.

being inside one of these structures is incredible. similar to  being on a roller coaster w/ music.  i always wondered why i couldn't get to the end of this thing, even when i would spend an hour or more whooshing through it.  robert explains in ad that there is no end, but instead places where you can get off, to explore different levels of the astral.  i never knew this and always tried to go faster to get to the end.  

i brought this up because i was meditating earlier and i remembered that when the tunnel would turn abruptly that i would sometimes still be looking in the direction i was headed before the turn.  when this would happen a little cartoon character face w/ an arrow next to his head would pop up in my view, indicating which way i should be watching.  when i would turn to face the right way,  he would disappear.  this part sounds a little crazy i know, but i just remembered it and wanted to see if anyone else could confirm this little guy or the arrow.

i associate paralysis w/ oobe more than i do dreaming so i posted this here.  i awoke this morning after having a lucid dream to find myself right in the middle of some nice paralysis.  i like this stuff some so it didn't really bother me.  i remembered about moving my toe but decided to wait it out and see what happened.

after about five seconds i felt someone grab  my hair on the side of my head very firmly.  i couldn't turn to see who it was.  it was very uncomfortable and i wanted it to stop.  i didn't react except to say mentally 'who are you', w/ some curiousity.  there was no reaction and i thought if this was a neg or something that i would be able to send some energy up there to disrupt it w/ the vibrations.  i started from my feet and got a decent amount flowing up there, more than i do when i'm doing energy work.  when it got to my head i felt resistance from whatever it was holding on, so i sent more.  next, i felt something grab my ribcage on the same side.  the force w/ which my ribcage was grabbed was directly proportional to the amount of energy i sent to the top of my head.  

i didnt try sending any energy to my ribcage, i can't recall why.  this lasted for about a minute, until i decided to move my toe.   i wiggled it some and the paralysis broke from my legs.  i tried to move my upper body, but when i did, a little demon or something popped up on my chest.  i could barely see it, but could feel it grabbing my neck.  i was starting to dislike this, but wasn't scared or emitting any fear to feed this experience.   i believe i rememebered reading somewhere not to be mean to these things but i couldn't resist.  i called it a very bad name three times in a row, but did it mockingly instead of angrily.  whatever it was was mocking me in it's own voice.  this was kind of funny, but this is the third time something like this has happened.  i guess i just want to be sure that whatever happened is just from some passer by and not the same thing that has been having fun w/ me.

thoughts guys?