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Lente, great points, but seriously, think back to when you were new to all this.  If you hadn't learned from some system of names and labels, it would have been extremely difficult.  The best way to help out the people who don't realize the uselessness of labels is to let them find their own way through the labels as you had to.

Maybe your right about that, I have researched almost everything out there (although not everything in detail) and only after that I realized that all things are based on the same workings of the universe and that alot of magic system have alot of useless things and sometimes even wrong things in them.

If there is any magic than your doing it 24/7, only sometimes your aware of it and believe in it, when you cast a spell you believe in it (believes is what will form you reality) and it will have an observable result, during the rest of the day however you do not believe your wishes have power to them and because you believe that they actually have little power. However this doesn't need to be, if you believe in yourself and believe that you can do "magic" anytime any place there will be results to that.

It is of course not as easy as wishing for something and believing for it, although this will certainly bring results sometimes, you will also have to keep in mind all of the believes your not consciously aware and will have their influence on your life.

There is no black magic, there really is no magic even, it is all namen for things people cannot fully understand yet.

How does that explanation help really?  People give names for things that they don't fully understand, to try and help them to understand.

It helps in that you don't get stuck on names, and attached to those names certain beliefs.(which might not reflect reality at all)

There is no black magic, there really is no magic even, it is all namen for things people cannot fully understand yet.

Hehe why does this topic always come back? You know you can use the search and find what you are looking for!

You missed my point. Terrorist aren't borne terrorist, people choose to engage in terrorist behavior and become terrorists by CHOICE!

That's a totally unfair statement. These people are brought up brainwashed no less than those for the so-called "War on Terror" are here. The main difference is that when those people are brainwashed, they're brainwashed so that they may blow themselves up, etc., rather than just letting their government do it for them.

Do you think anybody in their right mind would blow themselves up, killing both themselves and innocents, unless they believed they were right? That what they were doing was good for their people?

And guess what! We all here believe we are right too (or at least you pro-war guys)! We believe what we're doing is good for our people.

Truth be told, and I would think this is obvious, but both sides are wrong, and all of this is bad for all people

Further, you aren't being told what's really going on in these situations; you can't possibly expect to! Have you guys never heard of something called propoganda? Because if not, I can give you an idea of what it is. It's all of those things the media and government will tell you, that are either misleading, manipulative, or even not true at all, to try to get you to support military action! Propoganda has been used for hundreds of years, in every single major war you can think of. Do you think there is any exception to that today? Do you think that for once in modern history, especially in such a controversial part of history, that our government and media should suddenly come clean during war time and not press propoganda forward? No!

The fact that some of you are arguing the Iraq War was just shows this exactly.

Yes both sides are "wrong" (if anyone can be the judge of that) and in a ideal world we would have to take no action, there would be no war, but that is not reality!

The reality is we take action against those who we think are wrong and do wrong, what the enemy believes or is made to believe is not a consideration, can not be a consideration in the world as it currently is!

Is this my opinion? Yes! Based on propaganda? Partially, yes I wouldn't deny it, I'm not expert in this, I watch TV, so I'm influenced, however I do not believe everything is propaganda, and I still believe Iraq was a bad place live and there is a good chance it will become a better place to live. Non of you told me anything yet to make me believe otherwise.

But you would want to be sending the message that a America leave the Iraqies on there own (AGAIN) after starting this whole mess!?

That point is totally irrelevant to whether or not this war was just to begin with.

I stick a knife with backwards teeth into someone. If I were to pull it out, it would surely inflict more damage. But I just stabbed someone. "What do you want me to do, pull it out?!?!" That's not the point!

Leave it in, get proper help and pull it out in right time. This is what America (and other countries) should do, get proper help, heal the country and leave when the time is right!

Well change is hard, but they can have hope, something it think they couldn't have whit Saddam, because dictators don't usually become nice people for no reason!

I hate to break it to you but Iraq today is a bigger mess than it was when Saddam was in charge. In fact, more people are dying violent deaths in Iraq today 58 times more often than they were pre-war. Now, 50% of the deaths taking place in Iraq are our fault.

I'm not denying that Iraq is a big mess, I'm saying there is a chance Iraq becomes a better Iraq than the old Iraq, if we work on hard. And if that happens it might have been worth it all.

Do you think that those stats make Iraqis very happy? Maybe they were dancing out on the streets when Saddam was removed from power, but something tells me they aren't getting any happier over there now. The only people that are, are those benefitting from all of this. Everyone else is dying, while the fundamental Bushies are over here telling us how good this war is for everyone!

They might be happy later all this happened, might not be, but you judge to soon and view everything black and white! You fail to realize that this war might also bring something good, and you fail to realize the price may after all be worth it!

Consider the possibility! I do consider the possibility that this war will be a great tragedy, but I won't say this before it is really clear (and it is not even if you might think so) and I will never say this in a ultimate sense, discounting the possible good that came out of it anyway!

Just for a moment think outside you "everything is black and white" box and see that it is not all bad! In fact even bush is not all bad, I'm sure there are a few things he done OK.

Lente:
"There is no war against "them", there is a war against terrorists, they make themselves fit the description! "They" take it as a war against "them" and they choose to engage America as terrorists, this is not our doing, the choice was and IS whit them! "

Pheraps you are not aware of Bush's coined phrase "The War on Terror"? I think that means we are in a 'war' against 'them' (terrorists). When Bush said we were going to fight the terrorists, I think we can assume, and know bc he said it himself, that we are in a war against them.
WE DECLARED WAR ON THEM. Well not 'we' but Bush, and he, to the world, represents America.
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You missed my point. Terrorist aren't borne terrorist, people choose to engage in terrorist behavior and become terrorists by CHOICE!

I dont think this is a 'genocide'. The otrocities in Darfur is a genocide, (and omg i cant believe it hasn't been posted anywhere here, and it isnt known too widly, bc are dying, and it hasnt even reached the worst stage yet).

"Not if they stick whit it and make it work! If everyone makes it work, war is a reality now, do you want them to back away now and let everything crash and break apart behind them? How would that be fair? "

Why would the people want to stand behind this war we protested from the start?? What kind of message would that send?? 'If bush does something we dont like, we'll help him anyway'? I dont think so.

But you would want to be sending the message that a america leave the Iraqies on there own (AGAIN) after starting this whole mess!?

-I would hardly say that the war in Iraq was worth it. Sure, Saddam was a horrible horrible dictator, but the people did not have to live in fear of bomb threats in their types of churches (mosques, etc.) every single day. I saw videos where we stormed houses, tore apart furniture, and left.

Well change is hard, but they can have hope, something it think they couldn't have whit Saddam, because dictators don't usually become nice people for no reason!

Hi Lente:

If it sounds good to you then fine. The old dictator has gone, that is a fact.

Bush finally had the pleasure of settling an old score. Problem is the legality of the invasion is highly questionable. Many people in the know, so to speak, steadfastly maintain the invasion was illegal from the start. And it would appear that more and more American people are waking up to that possibility, as they continue to pay the price of Bush's folly with the blood of their countrymen.

Many people in the know are really just talking bovine excrement, I know that sounds harsh, but they saw themselves as a power and thought they could decide what is legal and what not, however they discovered they couldn't stop America from doing what it wanted. So it would be ridicule's to say these people had any basis for telling the world what is acceptable and what not, because ultimately power decides, that be a good thing or not.

The body count rises daily, as do the costs that now run into many billions of dollars. The price of crude oil is going skywards and it is only a matter of time before the world economy feels the squeeze, and a world recession will be looming on the horizon. Not only that, the military actions have had the effect of provoking many millions of Muslims all over the world, and this has helped transform Iraq into an open battleground for training what America and her allies call "terrorists". Iraq was never a breeding ground for "terrorists". It sure is now though!

OK maybe the Price is getting high, higher than a lot of people find acceptable, but what do you care if you were a oppressed person under Saddam! You wouldn't give a damn about economics and the body count rise is regrettable, but totally worth it in your view.

To my view even the price is "OK", meaning that it is not keeping me awake at night, and I believe it might be worth it, of course my opinion is not set in stone, because 1) And don't know everything about this subject 2) Its still going on, so the price will still rise. If these things change my opinion may change, but for now I believe it might be worth what we pay if a better new Iraq will be build.

As for the terrorist, this is NOT our doing, you can't say we made them attack, for it is their choice to attack, it is their choice to view our action of attack on Saddam as a war declaration to them also. They just take it that way.

These "terrorists" are spreading all around the world and engaging themselves in a war that the American administration has declared against them. Little wonder the number of "terrorist" actions worldwide has escalated sharply in the past two years.

There is no war against "them", there is a war against terrorists, they make themselves fit the description! "They" take it as a war against "them" and they choose to engage America as terrorists, this is not our doing, the choice was and IS whit them!

The civilian death toll runs into the tens of thousands but no one really knows how many civilians the occupying forces have killed, as the American military publicly declared, "We don't do body counts". Despite this being a clear legal requirement under the Geneva Convention, being the occupying force. I think what they actually meant was, "We fired off several thousand cruise-missiles initially to do the dirty work and we weren't there at each point of impact to know how many civilians were blown apart in the blast."

The Geneva Convention counts for nothing, so there is a piece of paper whit some war rules on it, RIDICULES, because apparently no one can enforce those rules, Oh I'm sure it will become important in the politics later on, but NOW when it matters it counts for nothing!

10,000 civilian deaths is a very conservative estimate. A number of knowledgeable observers estimate up to 100,000 civilian deaths. That is sheer genocide in any language.

In any language? Who makes the rules? Is 10,000 acceptable for a better Iraq or 100,000? I can't say yet, but I wouldn't so no yet either.

The message has been slow getting through to the American people. I guess for a while they were living on that rosy glow they must have felt, watching their boys marching into Baghdad and taking the place by storm. But then time dragged on. The body count started building, costs went through the roof and now two years on with nothing to show for it but seventeen hundred body bags (and rising) with no end in sight.

Oh some message will get across, but the right one or the popular one? Damn that war is IN and liberation of oppressed country's is OUT! Its all political play!

It wasn't all that long ago that the American people had to face the reality that was Vietnam. And I believe they will have a similar reality to face before not too long in Iraq.

Not if they stick whit it and make it work! If everyone makes it work, war is a reality now, do you want them to back away now and let everything crash and break apart behind them? How would that be fair?

Slowly but surely, the reality of Iraq will dawn. The platitudes are wearing a little thin now, and people are hungry for some real progress. There were no weapons of mass destruction and the only thing coming out of Iraq are the body bags. Plus, there's the billions and billions of dollars spent with nothing to show for it. Very soon, the American people are going to have to entertain the possibility that they have been lied to all along.

Ha I agree, so you might think I'm pro American or Bush, but no and I think your right here, I'm not saying the war was of pure intent by the politics ( or bush).

Bush appears to be forever asking the American people to, "Stay the course". I guess it wouldn't be too bad if he were to actually specify what this course is, exactly. I'm hoping it will only be a matter of time that the American people will realise that Bush is utterly delusional, and totally out of sync with reality.

I don't actually hate bush like you, but I'm no fan of him either, I'm sure America has better rulers, and I hope they actually choose a better ruler next time.

Yep, old Saddam has gone alright. Problem is the military actions have had the effect of replacing him with hundreds of tin-pot heroes all running riot with AK47s and bags of Semtex.

The War made the (more) Terrorist? No, like I said before, IT WAS THERE OWN CHOICE, besides they had to be somewhere already, they don't just drop out of the sky!

Hi:

That's the old, "end justifies the means argument".

Yours,
Frank

And that is not a good thing? The end to saddam by the means of war, seems pretty fair to me!

Hi:

There are many people in the world who have moved on from the old us-versus-them constructs and have engaged the actions of compassion, tolerance and restraint. It is unfortunate to note the country best placed to set a strong influence in the adoption of the incoming paradigm is still largely paralysed and blinded by greed and sheer self-interest. The American government are rapidly turning into rampant capitalist fundamentalists who will stop at nothing in their lust for power.

Their engagement in this "war on terror" is sheer lunacy. They are surely insane. They have been blinded by bloodlust in a wretched desire for revenge that has now been linked to their insatiable thirst for cheap oil (representing a fraction under 5% of world population yet consuming 30% of world oil production per year) protected by a seemingly invincible military force.

Their actions are now inflicting real terror on innocent people.

Over 10,000 dead in Iraq alone and rising. Of course, this does not count the sheer misery caused to those who have been maimed, injured or otherwise displaced. Having their homes blown to bits, and all their possessions destroyed by the invading forces. Little wonder that terror attacks from the "other side" are increasing dramatically.

Such flagrant violations of human rights by the American military in their imposition of terror upon others, merely serves to set the stage for elements of those "others" to justify similar actions in return. It appears to perpetually escape the notice of the American administration that the inflicting of terror by military force merely serves to create the very conditions that breed the very "terrorists", which the American government purport to be dead set against.

The more people that are displaced by western military forces, the more likely they will be to engage in the actions of revenge.

These are not soldiers in uniform. These are ordinary men and women with the potential to wreak havoc in any modern-day western city. Such as was seen in London the other day. Just 4 or 5 people, a little high explosive, and a whole city is locked in terror. What's to say they don't do the same next week? The chances of them being caught are next to nil. These are people who wouldn't stand out in a crowd, because to all intents and purposes they are just ordinary people. Yet in that innocent-looking sports bag are a number of pounds of high explosive primed to go off in 10 minutes or so. Just discretely slip it under the seat and get off at the next stop. No one suspects a thing. Later that day they are back living their normal life.

If there is one thing British people learnt from the Northern Ireland situation is you cannot beat determined "terrorists". The British government were eventually forced to negotiate with the IRA and all the other parties involved. A deal was thrashed out and the troubles, i.e. the bombings and the killings, began to subside after some 30 years of violence. Think of it. The relatively small island of Ireland containing a hard-core group of very determined individuals belonging to an outlawed organisation called the Irish Republican Army, or "terrorists" as the British government used to call them. They were pitched against the might of the British MI5, MI6 the British military and the Irish police force, and all on that tiny island. Yet still, they could not be beaten! Even when contained within that small island. Yet the American government believes they can defeat "terrorists" on a world scale. To think that is naïve to the extreme. It is an exercise in insanity that is going to cause the unnecessary deaths of many, many innocent people, and inflict suffering and misery on countless others.

I think that is why British people are progressively withdrawing their support. The current world situation the American administration's actions are fuelling smacks of a Northern Ireland situation raised to a world level.

It's all too easy to claim the Spanish "gave in" to terrorism. When you look at the facts it is clear the Spanish people simply did not want to become embroiled in the issue any more than they had been already. They merely saw the futility of it all and said enough. That, to me, is pure democracy in action. The government tried to pull the wool over their eyes claiming the bombing was an action by a local group "ETA" that have been the focus of a number of terror actions in the past. But the Spanish people saw through the lies and voted them out. And I don't blame them. I just wish British people would decide the same way and somehow force the government to withdraw our military forces before yet more innocent lives are lost in this senseless, fruitless "war".

You can see what these "terrorists" are doing. They are taking selective action to pick off the governments that support the American military action in Iraq and places. I would think their ideal would be to get to a situation where America was isolated and then they'll concentrate their attention on bombing American civilians. Because if they started bombing American civilians now then that would likely reinforce the existing support amongst the other nations. But if America stands isolated when the bombs start going off on their mainland then I'm guessing it will then be seen by Europe and others as an "internal" issue.

If this whole thing escalates, I can easily picture a situation where a bomb a day was going off in trains and places all over America. Because there is no way you can stop it. Just like the situation in Northern Ireland. In fact, it is even worse than Northern Ireland because the whole thing will be spread over a vastly greater area.

Yours,
Frank

Do you think it is all bad what america is doing? I mean, don't you think Iraq is going to a better country?

You view is very black and white, I a little surprised.

Has anyone really tried contacting them? And would they tell everyone?

Some people never have a neg experience, so they are just lucky I guess?

Major Tom,

I think the ideas are intermingled whit each other, besides don't be so strict, just let to discussion go its way.

Hi Rob
Sorry about the mentioning of Doug, ha glad you answered , it is naturally open for all to do so. Yep my friend just a old recycled hippie, hitchhiked to India and lived all over the Mideast Afghanistan in the early 70s, did LSD in Goa, with the full moon parties. Had my share of the vierd and vonderful vorld of the hippie, note the German accent, there were a lot of Germans there then. We had folks specializing in smoking Cobra poison Datura seeds peyote and experimented with alternative realities and altered states of consciousness daily. Had my first OBE meditating in a Buddhist temple on the slopes of the Himalaya chatted with the Dalai Lama (before chatting became something you do on a computer) Yep you might say I have been 'round the block.

No bragging but you just stirred up old memories. Part of my old memories are the experiences of Spiritual phenomena, elevating swamis, moving furniture, and talking to spiritual entities in English, through the mouth of someone who was not aware that there is a world outside of Nepal. So all in all I remain cautious. How I wish you were all right, but I am pretty convinced that this is no more than a convenient belief system invented by charlatans who care not for anyone, not really, and who have very little real life experience and compensate by living and inventing fiction.

That is my opinion so far, but I realize I could be wrong so I wait and try to stay open.

Regards Mustardseed

I see you HAVE been around the block! I respect that, but perhaps that is your problem, all of your past building walls around you. Or perhaps it is wisdom you gained, honestly I don't know, I can't say I have a lot of live experience (or any experience) backing up my story, but I believe and we will see where it goes.

I'm a little disappointed that frank doesn't want to respond on this, because he should be in the right position to answer your questions whit all his experience.

Yes mustardseed keep an open mind, but more importantly, test these things for yourself.

[The world as you know it is just the reality that you have chosen, it is the focus of consciousness that you have chosen to adapt, (for reasons not even known to you) nothing is real, its Maya, an illusion, in some way it is in nature as a giant lucid dream, in which you play the main part.]

Hi Doug


I totally understand your post and I am glad that my understanding of Phasing is correct. This very idea is what I find a claim. That Negs just to mention one issue are nothing but a fiction of my mind, or indeed a fiction of someones  life. This makes them un real to my definition of them, in so much that they can be combatted by manifesting a attitude of non compliance (non belief).

Hey Mustardseed,

I'm not Doug, but I like to say something about this.

What makes something real or unreal, in my mind everything that effects you is reality and is real, so maybe you do create those negs yourself, BUT they are real. However because they are your own creating, you can choose not to have them in your reality anymore, though this might not be as easy, because for some reason you have created them, you might be completely unaware how and why you did that, so it might be hard to actually stop creating them.

In a way this very approach is what many people say about sickness, that it is all in your mind. Like the Christian Scientist said to a guy with a cold on the bus, "its all in your mind my friend" to which the guy replied holding his nostril open "no it ain't see....its in my nose".

The approach is in my opinion a mind trip and it is in contradiction to most other approaches, as it claims to be the underlying principle of them all, and the "Real" explanation of how it all hangs. I understand the phasing teknic and it works ok, it is the wider reality, the context if you will, that I find problematic. It seems to me that out of a teknic has grown a understanding of the world, that goes something like this.......
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The world as you know it is just the reality that you have chosen, it is the focus of consciousness that you have chosen to adapt, (for reasons not even known to you) nothing is real, its Maya, an illusion, in some way it is in nature as a giant lucid dream, in which you play the main part.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If this is the case then there is no right no wrong, you can do whatever you want, and like in a dream there will be no consequence to the choices you make, be selfish, unkind, aggressive egotistical it does not matter, cause it ain't real. One have to enlarge ones vision and see that its all about ONE SELF, you are number 1 the main player.

There are no consequences outside of YOU, but you will make consequences for yourself.

Why is the idea that there is no thing outside yourself creating your reality so treatning?

As I said phasing in itself as a teknic is fine but in the wider reality it does not address life and the issues life is made up of properly, all it does is provide people a means to live for themselves, something I believe will come back and bite them some time in the future. It seems to me to be more a product of someone wanting to write a book, and having run out of stuff about the teknic, have decided to play the "what if game"

Well if you believe something you do will always come back to you it surely will.

Imagine there's no heaven its easy if you try as John Lennon sang ...............imagine. No consequence, no right no wrong no light no darkness, no God no Devil no negs, no fear nothing to be afraid of, it all is ok you are ok I am ok, lets sit back smoke a joint more and listen to a few more songs, hey look at that candle man heavy......

A little bit simplistic, but yes, about right, ain't it groovy?

I am an old Hippie Doug I heard it all, this sounds a lot like old second hand hippie philosophy, nicely packaged but same old stuff.....cheech and chong "its all in your head man"

Haha mustardseed the hippie, is that really true? Well I'm sure its not a new thing, but I don't think those hippies really had it worked out, there is more to it than "its all in your head man".




Greeting,
Rob

[The mystic bashing concerns me a little too, frank seems to take every opportunity to tell us how wrong mystics are, now I support franks work, but he could do without that, he should stick to teaching his stuff and leave the mystics to themselfs.]

I wrote this post but posted it probably in the wrong place, I have some questions about the phasing model  for you all.

Ok Now I ain't no mystic, never claimed to be one. I would however like to ask all you guys to explain me something.

You say that Monroe Bruce and others who you now term Mystics were wrong, no such thing as out of the body. 3 years ago when you were all just experimenting and someone came with such a claim he was met with ridicule, but now you have the very convenient Phasing Model (thanks Frank) to lean to and now suddenly the "Mystics" are out and you, all the "more enlightened people" rule. Your model of explanation the latest and most progressive model is the "in" thing.

The mystic bashing concerns me a little too, frank seems to take every opportunity to tell us how wrong mystics are, now I support franks work, but he could do without that, he should stick to teaching his stuff and leave the mystics to themselfs.

It seems logical to me however, that your model, your belief system or non belief system (which is just another form of belief albeit negative in nature I don't agree whit that, there is truth and there is belief ), is just another model to explain something we seem to not understand. Not just another model, a model that is more accurate, well that's what frank is going for anyway. What makes you right Frank or Adrian and whoever, and what makes Monroe Bruce etc wrong wrong. The truth! If you have the holy grail please let us know.  Why should we believe a word of what you say, are you not just another guy with all the answers another Mystic trying to sell his "charms" packaged in nice books fancy titles and catchy advertising, and as I asked in some other thread, how does this attitude of selling the truth look on your karmic records. You should believe it if you are convinced just like some of us that this is the way forward, if not, than just don't believe.

I am seriously interested in this debate and I am curious if you will take this debate or delete my post. I know that whoever posts here are not allowed to question or criticize the moderators- so lets see. What do you think Nay Gandalf and all you others ................. how are we doing on the pulse. ?? Still fighting for the truth??? or what.......

Regards Mustardseed
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Words.....there was a time when I believed in words!

I'm going to answer my own question.


At the time that I was asking this question I was very confused, I just couldn't accept that everything that happens is my creation, but somehow I couldn't bring myself to dismiss it entirely either.

You know I even bought adrians book and although I applaud the effort he made, I couldn't agree whit his book either. I remember thinking its just to easy.

Whit the law of attraction you can attract everything you want, the law of karma is cooperating in this, so you just think positive, visualize etc and it will cause what you want to have coming into your live. Yes? NO!! Something isn't right here, this doesn't make any sense (to me), so I started looking further.

I don't know exactly how but I came upon an explanation of how we create reality by Seth and I remembered I have a book of him at home, so I started reading again. And Seth spoke of believes creating our reality, this made more sense to me, I had a feeling thought doesn't just manifest into reality.

I also remember there was this other entity Elias who said the same, I started reading it's work again. He explained things even better in my view.

Now the way he explained how we create our reality was acceptable.

Basically we all create our reality true our perception, our perception is influenced by our believes. We create this entire hologram so to speak of our reality for our self, and it is exactly what we believe it to be. Of course we are not alone, other people are there, BUT as our creation, when we interact whit someone we translate their energy and make up an image of them, mostly this is also the image of how they view them self, so there is no conflict. We also do this whit the world, there are a set of mass believes that everyone adopts when they incarnate (not reincarnate) in this reality. This is why there is no discussion about the common elements of our reality, like matter, gravity etc.

This is how I currently think about it.

thanks for the reply,  I'm afraid that's not exactly what I'm asking... you may  still know about what I'm asking.  I know that in the physical we have hearing, sight, touch, taste, and smell.  I've heard other mention extra senses that we have in more "astral" or non-physical focus.  So I was wondering what people have identified them to be.

I do appreciate the reply, I was waiting.
James

I have seen frank say we have 9 inner senses. Seth (a channeled entity) says the same:

Inner senses – deep intuitions or what's commonly called the sixth sense as a complement to the five physical senses. I use the term hyperception to describe the same set of characteristics. Used primarily by the inner ego, the outer ego can learn to manipulate these through a spectrum of altered neurological focus that results from any authentic type of yoga:

inner vibrational touch
psychological time
perception of past, present, and future
conceptual sense
cognition of knowledgeable essence
innate working knowledge of the basic vitality of the universe
expansion or contraction of the tissue capsule
disentanglement from camouflage
diffusion by the energy personality [essence]

taken from newworldview.com website

I AM.

              You AREN'T.

Not yet, anyway.

               But you CAN BE

If you take my Workshop.


Han

Ill pay you 1200 euro for my enlightenment. Do I get a paper stating my enlightenment?

[Might such a world not be somewhere in some focus already, after all alot of people did think about it.]

That would be so awesome, to create an anime world! Or video game world! And then to live in it!  But I think it would take an awful lot of time and energy...

wow.. slow down there.  This "type" of thing is what is going on with Astral Pulse Island.  About the anime world...that might take a GREAT deal of concentration (I am always hesitant to say it is impossible, ESPECIALLY in Focus 2).  

Might such a world not be somewhere in some focus already, after all alot of people did think about it.


For the concentration and time involved there are many REAL benefits you can accomplish in Focus 2.  You are "playing" in the depths of your subconscious mind.  I am sure there are some things you might want to change about yourself.  I know when I am able to reach Focus 2 reliably, rather than sporadically,  I will go into Focus 2 with blue print and a whole construction crew.   I will build a better me.

However, do what ever you want when you are there, but just get there.

Han

Hi Sahab,

Thanks for you comments.

I guess what I was trying to say, even as tactlessly as I did it (with apologies to Frank), is there really are no solid rules when travelling your spiritual path. You find what works best for you. I just don't like to see other peoples beliefs or experiences put down as being BS. We all have our own different take on things.

Whatever advise you get, whatever books you read, see how it feels to you. If it feels right, feels like it makes sense or rings true for you, go with that. That's your intuition guiding you right there! Learn to trust these feelings, your "inner knowing". The more you trust and use it, the more it will serve you. Do this and you're already well under way in accessing your higher self.

Blessings,
James

Problem whit that is, something can feel so good, yet be so wrong. I have believed plenty of things, things I have now done away whit, but at the time they felt good for sure.

I always thought it was hypocritical to take someone who committed suicide - someone who potentially reached the lowest point of life possible - and then tinkle on their grave with condemnation. In other words the fanatics who say suicides are evil mortal sinners seem to take delight in pointing out the suffering of people and saying, "yes, indeed they are suffering, shame on them."

But I digress.

I just heard word of someone my age committing suicide. I thought, "good for him!" Obviously, I bite my tongue in real life, but not here.

Suicides are  nothing new. But why do I always hear it buttressed with debasing highfalutin snobbery... that the person was "mental", "screwed up" and "not right." Regardless of your religion or personal ethics or the actual mental health of the individual... why are we so quick to make such scathing assumptions about a person who is (quite literally) already down? Why beat a dead horse, except to make yourself feel an illustion of strength? It's dead.

Nevermind that question.

I just want to know. Is there anyone who is happy? Isn't there anyone who has faith that the universe, God, the soul, or whatever powers that be are good and will work things in everyone's favor? Is there no one who has an unshakable optimism?

I almost want to celebrate.

[Edit: Please refrain from making the token New Age statements about suicide. I know what you think and I know who you are, Mr. "earth is a school" and Mrs. "it depends on the fear and negative energy of the soul at the time of death"  etc...]

Well I think everyone should have the right to kill themselves, however it should be discouraged.

And is anyone happy, I'm sure there are people who are perfectly happy. And people whose life is bittersweet, a bit happy a bit sad. I'm pretty hopeful myself.

Oh yeah, earth is a school or playground, oops you didn't want to hear that.... but if it is your going to be pretty mad about yourself taking the easy way out.

Hi:

Longest ever, that's difficult to say. Perhaps about 3 to 4 hours. Though I'd say the majority of my projections last about 30 minutes to an hour of linear time.

Yours,
Frank

Do you feel that is enough time, or do you feel annoyed if you wake up?

for an explaination on Frank's Phasing terms and techniques you can try looking in the Astral FAQ section on this forum. You'll see a bunch of permanent topices.

I have done that over the past few days and I think I now have general grasp on phasing, but I like to know what benefits there is to this, besides it being fun (I'm sure!) for my life.

I have read on Frank's site some promising things (control your future physical reality, healing, and among other things), I would like to hear how this actually works. (as frank has not yet released his book, btw when will this happen?)

[Are there specific benefits to be gained here?]

Focus 2 of Consciousness, or F2oC is your individual area of consciousness. It is where your memories are stored, as well as where (i believe) all your cognitive processes happen.(Thinking, doing, contemplating, etc.)  Its also what people mean by "imagination".When you phase, if you choose to do a mental rundown, this will happen in f2oc and at some point you will make the "switch" from observer to actually BEING THERE.


Are there specific benefits to be gained here?



From that point you can phase on to F3/F4 or go into the RTZ.

Most seem to agree that we create our own reality, but not on how we do it. Does positive thinking work, is it our beliefs or our perception. What are the methods for changing reality?