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#526
Quote from: Anemani on March 03, 2010, 15:40:12
Yep. ^^" heh heh. I can only be open about on here and with my friend
Are you parents fundamentalist Christians??  Muslims??  What are they??
#527
Quote from: Anemani on March 03, 2010, 15:11:41
I have to do this in secret. I can not be open about it, because my parents would not understand and I would get in trouble...  ^^ so I am sort of the oddball
You have to do what in secret??  AP'ing??
#528
Quote from: personalreality on March 03, 2010, 14:12:22
@ Fresco, I don't disagree that anti-theist explanations are a little lacking in substance, I mean...."BANG! ZAP! People!".  But sometimes, "I'll make light today, earth and sky tomorrow, then maybe some cute little animals, and in 5000 years some talking primates, LET MY WILL BE DONE! POOF" sounds a little ridiculous too
Oh for sure PR, I totally agree.

I'll even go as far to say that God may very well have used evolution to create animals, plants and people.
I just cannot accept that life created itself somehow, it had to have had a "designer".  When you look at the complexity of the human body its inconceivable to think it just popped out of the ground by itself.

But did God use some kind of evolution process to , over millions of years, create life somehow??
Now thats something to ponder and think about
#529
Here's a good read on AP and the God-plane: http://www.soundcurrentrider.com/GodPlane.html
#530
Quote from: missym on March 03, 2010, 12:57:15
Are you a spiritual person?
Very!

I always believed in God and the Bible.  No way life on earth formed by itself, and nobody is gonna tell me differently.
I always get a good laugh at atheists when they try to explain their half-baked theories on evolution and how it all started by itself :lol:

There's also evidence in the Bible of ancient prophets AP'ing.  Its in 2 Kings (Elisha)
#531
Quote from: missym on March 03, 2010, 12:48:26
Did you practice energy work before starting AP?
I never got into spirituality stuff until about 3 months ago, and since then my entire identity has changed... in a good way though.  :lol:
I never even heard of energy work until last week, let alone practice it   :|
#532
Quote from: personalreality on March 03, 2010, 10:20:36
I have said it before, I'll say it again.  I'm thrilled that the way I get out is helping so many.  
And I thank you for it.
I bought that book "AP in 90 days", its 478 pages long, they couldve made it 1 page if they printed your method......LOL.

Has anyone else noticed you're a happier person after AP'ing??
I'm a bundle of joy to be around lately, always smiling, cracking jokes.....etc.  Not that I was depressing before I'm just a lot livelier.

Anyone else notice this??

#533
Quote from: Anemani on March 02, 2010, 16:00:01
When you try to ap/obe. Do you also get where everything is shaking?

Totally!!  I get sweaty too!

But I read this is normal and doesnt affect your physical body at all (READ:  you cant die or injure yourself).
I cant wait to do a (planned) Exit.  This stuff is cool!!   :-D
#534
Quote from: Anemani on March 02, 2010, 15:47:27
I have a question. How do you know when your really really close to exiting... like on the verge of it?
I dont know yet, I'll let you know when I do exit.

My first OBE was totally spontaneous, I never planned for it, it was a complete surprise.  
I'll never forget it though.  Its as real as me sitting here typing this right now.

They say when you're ready to exit you will somehow sense it
#535
Well said Xanth.

Its now taking me less than 10 minutes for my body to go into vibrations.  This is after only 3 days of trying.
So I'm quickly getting better at it. 

I still havent exited yet but I'm sure it wont be long now. 
I still find it a little scary, kinda like taking my first hit of LSD  :lol:

Here's a website of some guy who travelled to distant planets (or so he claims): http://www.soundcurrentrider.com/VisitedPlanets.html
#536
Quote from: Anemani on March 02, 2010, 10:22:32
^^ I also tried last night, but I did not AP. I also got some very intense vibrations and every started to shake again.... Is everything suppose to shake?.. I sort of messed it all up, because I decided to jump and check the time. ^^", but I tried again, same thing happened.... -.- and I fell asleep, only to wake up several hours later, 20 mins before I was suppose too. -.-, but I will try again tonight, or maybe when I get home.  I really can not wait ^u^
Nighttime is the worst time to AP they say, also its not good to AP after a meal (wait at least 3 to 4 hrs.)
Best time is afternoonish around 4 or 5PM.

Stick with it though, practice makes perfect.  I'm told anyone can do this
#537
@ personalreality

Yup, your method works.  I last night got to the vibrations part right before exiting I chickened out though because it was dark and I didnt wanna OBE ina  pitchdark room.  I got to the heavy vibrations part with sweaty palms and some faint bright lights.  Very cool!!  Also very weird because this is not what happened with my first unplanned spontaneous OBE.

I'm having a lot of fun with this, greatest thing since sliced bread  :-D
#538
I was told the buzzing noise you hear are your brainwaves.  And if I'm not mistaken brainwaves when measured on an EEG (electroencephalograph) machine look like they happen in waves also.  It could very well have something to do with breathing, except the waves dont match up with the breaths I take, they seem to be much longer  intervals
#539
Quote from: personalreality on February 12, 2010, 19:29:53
Listen for ringing/whining sound in your ears
Have you noticed the ringing (or buzzing noise) comes in waves??!!

It does with me
#540
Quote from: personalreality on March 01, 2010, 18:37:47
I'm not particularly tired, well not any more than usual. 

But, I will say that I don't practice at night when going to bed because it's too easy to fall asleep and if you do that over and over then you will program your brain/body to think that when you do AP practice it's time to go to sleep.  That can be a pain to reprogram.

I usually practice in the afternoon after I've slept for 6-8 hours and been up for about 4-6 hours.  Actually, I feel quite rested and refreshed after I AP. 
Can you AP easily and regularly now without any problems??
If so how many months/years did it take to get good at AP'ing??
#541
Exactly how many of these malevolent beings have you guys encountered??!!   :-o
#542
Quote from: personalreality on March 01, 2010, 14:29:34
I focus on the ringing in my ears to achieve a single-minded focus.  I will often use foam ear plugs to tune out external noises so that I can only hear the ringing in my ears.  I feel a buzzing when I'm actually separating from my physical body. 
What you should try next is asking questions while in OBE state.
Like purpose of the universe??  Or who your soulmate is?? 

Many AP'ers report getting instant answers somehow
#543
Quote from: lee46 on March 01, 2010, 13:15:39
It's not evil at all, some may say is evil because of fear of the unknown, it's also supposed to be something you do naturally, but not consciouss/aware of it.
I agree.  Thats why I avoid fundamentalists, televangelists and faith healers like the plague, they think everything is evil and we're all going to hell.  I still believe in the Bible though, I just dont like organized religion.

There's other interesting supernatural abilities in the Bible btw.  AP is one of them but there's also these:

Levitation and Psychokinesis  (Matthew 14:23-31) &  (Matthew 8:24-26)

Invisibility (2 Kings 6:15-17)

Contacting the Dead (1 Samuel 28:7-8)

Super Human Strength Samson (Judges 16:3 )

Ghosts (perhaps someone AP'ing???) (Job 4:14-17)

And much, much more.  The Bible also says man can attain these great powers

#544
@PR

You mentioned that buzzing in your ear you focused on, try setting up some loud fan in your room, that will make your exit much easier (or so I'm told, I'm still at the beginning OBE stages myself)
#545
I just started my 90-day Astral Projection book yesterday.  I'll keep you guys updated on how I do.
I hope to be projecting in a few months.

Also there's evidence in the bible of ancient prophets projecting.  A famous one was Elisha (2 Kings), he would tip off the Israelites on invasions before they happened.  I figure if Elisha was allowed to AP then AP'ing must be a good thing, and not evil like some fundamentalists make it out to be
#546
Quote from: RisingSon on February 28, 2010, 20:06:41
You and me both, brother!  I modified your modification, though I'm sure the message has changed a bit since last night.  Yes, you will have more experiences now.  I think it is in a way like lifting weights, the more you practice, the bigger your muscles get.  OBEs and associated phenomenon increase in your life as you experiment more with them - it grows like a snowball.  Have fun!
Thanx Bro, and yup it was the coolest experience ever.

I'll go into more detail, I had a back problem and was prescribed muscle relaxants and pain killers.  My doctor said dont drink alcohol on them.  Of course I didnt listen so I had a couple of beers.  But let me make sure I was not drunk, I had maybe 4 or 5 beers while sitting in my bed watching TV.  Then suddenly I felt really relaxed and light and all of the sudden heard this weird buzzing noise (sounded like a giant fan was next to me).  And then I had my OBE for maybe 10 seconds or so.

Let me reiterate, I was not drunk, dreaming or delusional.  This really happened!
I later learned this is quite common with people that are under anesthetics
#547
Quote from: RisingSon on February 28, 2010, 19:51:44
Ah!  I've been modified!  Help! :-D
And I forgot what you posted  :?

Something about many more OBE's to come, as in this probably wont be my last one.  Correct??
I hope you're right
#548
Good answer(s), thanx Kurt
#549
I have a few questions regarding AP maybe you guys can help me with:

1) Some AP'ers and NDE'rs report they have access to total knowledge of the universe.
Have any of you ever experienced this??  And if so how much did you remember of this when you returned back into your body??

2) Any truth to the fear that its possible you cant return to body when AP'ing??
#550
Quote from: solbreaks on February 28, 2010, 14:37:17
maybe their the same person ?
Definitely not.  Unless I have multiple personality disorder that I dont know about