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Quote from: Fresco on March 02, 2010, 10:31:48Nighttime is the worst time to AP they say, also its not good to AP after a meal (wait at least 3 to 4 hrs.)Best time is afternoonish around 4 or 5PM.Stick with it though, practice makes perfect. I'm told anyone can do this
Quote from: Fresco on March 02, 2010, 10:31:48Nighttime is the worst time to AP they say
Quote, also its not good to AP after a meal (wait at least 3 to 4 hrs.)
QuoteBest time is afternoonish around 4 or 5PM.
QuoteStick with it though, practice makes perfect. I'm told anyone can do this
Quote from: Anemani on March 02, 2010, 15:47:27I have a question. How do you know when your really really close to exiting... like on the verge of it?
Quote from: Anemani on March 02, 2010, 16:00:01When you try to ap/obe. Do you also get where everything is shaking?
Quote from: personalreality on March 03, 2010, 10:20:36I have said it before, I'll say it again. I'm thrilled that the way I get out is helping so many.
Quote from: missym on March 03, 2010, 12:48:26Did you practice energy work before starting AP?I never got into spirituality stuff until about 3 months ago, and since then my entire identity has changed... in a good way though.
Quote from: missym on March 03, 2010, 12:57:15Are you a spiritual person?
Quote from: personalreality on March 03, 2010, 14:12:22@ Fresco, I don't disagree that anti-theist explanations are a little lacking in substance, I mean...."BANG! ZAP! People!". But sometimes, "I'll make light today, earth and sky tomorrow, then maybe some cute little animals, and in 5000 years some talking primates, LET MY WILL BE DONE! POOF" sounds a little ridiculous too
Quote from: personalreality on March 03, 2010, 10:20:36I think the most important thing to notice in order to exit is what your consciousness feels like. Do you feel fully aware? Do you feel like you can pay attention to something (anything) or like you have enough awareness to do some method or technique? Are you thinking at all? Do you have enough awareness to say to yourself, "OK, I feel like I'm in the right place, let's try an exit technique now"? If you answered yes to any of those then you're not there yet. You want your mind to feel like it's pretty much asleep. For example, yesterday I was doing some trance practice just to get into trance and stay in a single-minded state for as long as I could and at one point my awareness came back to a degree that I had some cognitive ability and I took a second to notice my body and see how it felt and I WAS SNORING! It was the weirdest thing. I was asleep but I was awake inside my body. I mean talk about mind awake/body asleep! I actually heard and felt myself snoring. It kind of sucks because I've been telling my fiance for years that I don't snore. What was funny was that I also felt a little furry body on my hand breathing (my cat, he likes to project with me) and he was snoring too, at almost the same rate as me! But you see my point. You want to be in such a deep trance state that your cognitive function is pretty much gone. It's hard to explain if you haven't felt it, but the closest approximation is when you wake up early in the morning (like 4am, hours before you have to get up) and you don't really do anything, you just notice that you're awake but aren't thinking about it. There's no internal chatter saying, "hey, I'm awake, my feet are cold, I have to pee", you are just aware with no thoughts. That's what you want to get to. When you can get there intentionally, you will easily leave your body.
Quote from: Fresco on March 03, 2010, 13:13:38Very!I always believed in God and the Bible. No way life on earth formed by itself, and nobody is gonna tell me differently.I always get a good laugh at atheists when they try to explain their half-baked theories on evolution and how it all started by itself There's also evidence in the Bible of ancient prophets AP'ing. Its in 2 Kings (Elisha)
Quote from: personalreality on March 03, 2010, 14:12:22If you want the unabridged version of the old testament you can read ancient sumerian texts. And some hindu ones. Funny how those things just popped into Christian history. Perhaps they all have more in common than we thought.