So we have scientific/materialist ideas that everything about consciousness is in the body somewhere, the opposite of the view that we are a soul first and foremost having a physical experience.
So then if we carry that over to the ET question, I suppose we should give ETs the benefit of the doubt that they are conscious and have souls too. So if they're conscious and are ultimately just souls too, then if they have physical experiences then they simply incarnate into a physical body the same way we would. If they're smart then they would have even realized this already and capitalized on its implications, and got "straight to the point" instead of messing around with strictly physical technologies. It's comprehensible that they could even reach some level of technology and/or spiritual development that they could do this at will, or even materialize/dematerialize as is actually often reported in UFO/ET experiences.
Proof is ultimately something that is subjective, something that has to be strictly interpreted in its own context, and is not always necessary in the first place. For example e=mc^2 is not proof of anything, it's just a theory to explain theoretical data, which basically means it's nothing but a useful idea to try to make sense of things that we really don't understand. Really unless we are conducting science here, then it becomes pretty irrelevant to bring science into this. With the guy posting the OP that he has, I think we could take this whole thread in a different direction and just explore ideas of these kinds of experiences and the kind of consciousness associated with them, instead of making it about scientific studies. Even without proof of what is happening in this subject, the fact remains that there is an immense and constantly growing body of case studies, regression sessions, police reports, enough stuff to fill volumes and volumes, but to sift through all of that it takes a little bit of interest. There are lots of proposed explanations but the most interesting stuff is when people pursue it on its own level, for whatever it's worth. And there is definitely a heavy element of states of consciousness playing a role.
There are a lot of people who draw parallels between modern ET experiences and ancient stories of fairies, angels, demons, etc. All these parallels that can be drawn seem to point out that we may just be finding new ways to think about and try to explain otherwise incomprehensible experiences that have been happening to people for a long time. I have some notes taken out of a book about Native American myths and legends that was written in the 1910's, and it gives a classic abduction story, except using natural objects that Native Americans were familiar with to explain everything.
So then if we carry that over to the ET question, I suppose we should give ETs the benefit of the doubt that they are conscious and have souls too. So if they're conscious and are ultimately just souls too, then if they have physical experiences then they simply incarnate into a physical body the same way we would. If they're smart then they would have even realized this already and capitalized on its implications, and got "straight to the point" instead of messing around with strictly physical technologies. It's comprehensible that they could even reach some level of technology and/or spiritual development that they could do this at will, or even materialize/dematerialize as is actually often reported in UFO/ET experiences.
Proof is ultimately something that is subjective, something that has to be strictly interpreted in its own context, and is not always necessary in the first place. For example e=mc^2 is not proof of anything, it's just a theory to explain theoretical data, which basically means it's nothing but a useful idea to try to make sense of things that we really don't understand. Really unless we are conducting science here, then it becomes pretty irrelevant to bring science into this. With the guy posting the OP that he has, I think we could take this whole thread in a different direction and just explore ideas of these kinds of experiences and the kind of consciousness associated with them, instead of making it about scientific studies. Even without proof of what is happening in this subject, the fact remains that there is an immense and constantly growing body of case studies, regression sessions, police reports, enough stuff to fill volumes and volumes, but to sift through all of that it takes a little bit of interest. There are lots of proposed explanations but the most interesting stuff is when people pursue it on its own level, for whatever it's worth. And there is definitely a heavy element of states of consciousness playing a role.
There are a lot of people who draw parallels between modern ET experiences and ancient stories of fairies, angels, demons, etc. All these parallels that can be drawn seem to point out that we may just be finding new ways to think about and try to explain otherwise incomprehensible experiences that have been happening to people for a long time. I have some notes taken out of a book about Native American myths and legends that was written in the 1910's, and it gives a classic abduction story, except using natural objects that Native Americans were familiar with to explain everything.