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Gizzytaz,

Remember the scene in the Jody Foster movie "Contact" where she is in the contraption they built and they insisted on putting in the chair with the seat belt? Do you remember what happened in the launch scene? It is like this. Remove the chair and the seat belt. The experience demands it. You are going to be just fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcLN5Yg8Jg0

Casey, that is a fantastic comparison. I only experienced the violent vibrations the first I attempted a fully conscious OBE. I used a "candle staring" technique for my focus. I still get the vibrations today via Sleep Paralysis episodes, but not nearly as powerful. I will tell you one thing for certain, they are definitely a hell of ride. That's why i often say in my posts to "make sure your seatbelt is fastened and your seat is in upright position and hold on tight, you are in for a wild ride!   

Hi lumaza, thanks for all the links it's very useful !

I'm so sorry for what happened to you   I have never tried (and now never will) any machines or supplements to help induce my experiences. To me it's a natural phenomena that need to be more understood that's it. The idea of a machine that slighty wake you up seems like a good idea....but look what it did to you ! I hope they gave you your money back !

The company did refund my money. So all is well. It was some kind of glitch or just a freak of nature. But like I said, there was a kind of postive outcome. i still suffer to this day from the Trigeminal Neuralgia. I have to wear glass with a FL-41 tint called "Theraspecs" day and night now. But, on the plus/positive time, it did teach me Tibetan Dream Yoga!  

This actually gave me a very good idea ! Once in the detached state, I have tried to visualized a story or a place while waiting for the yo-yo effect to start carying me into a more profond state. It worked ! At first, I decided that my story will start inside of a spaceship. I fly the spaceship to a planet. Now I am in front of a house (I can feel the yo-yo effect start in the background of my mind while I'm busy with my story). I walk in front of the house, the story change a little bit without my consent. Suddenly I stop, the view switch from 3rd person to 1st person without me doing anything. My eyes are focusing on the stairs of the house and it's getting more and more vivid. I'm getting excited and go back in the physical, but very happy about my finding  

As I said above, you are doing great. "Walkthroughs" are very beneficial in this practice. Allow them to totally consume your focus. Now, comes the balancing act and the hard part, because now you need to also keep your awareness or else you will "click  out".

About your last post, I was reading it 1h before going to bed. Turns out that last night I had the most long and interesting lucid dream in a while. Since I have started to practice at night, even though I fail, my dream recall has improved drastically ! I do not need journal to remember my dream anymore, but like you, I'm recording the one that are very interesting. Last night was one of them, I will not describe all the things that happenned because some of them are very personal and other maybe not appropriate on a public forum. But to make things short, I had mutliple lucid dream without returning to the physicial. Everytime my dream was fading I ended up in the void fully conscious. That's something that never happened before and i think it's due to the fact that this Void state is now a reality for me !

I had something like 4 or 5 lucid dream in row and each time the Void state acted like an intermission between dreams. Best part is that I could interact with the Void ! I just needed to ask a question and it showed me the answer in the form of a image or a scenario. It really feel like a search engine, you ask and it show. To give an example, I ask the void for a symbol that represents who I was. This might seems like a strange question but I was looking for a symbol that I could engrave on my familly bracelet (a traditional thing in my familly). So the Void showed me a sort of grid carved in the stone. The grid was 4x4 I think, inside of each square I could see some sort of hieroglyph. The Void immediatly highlighted in red 5 symbols that was relevant. I knew that I won't be able to remember all of them so I decided to remember the one at the top of row. I'm googling since this morning to find the symbol but can't find it right know. It was a person on it's knee with arms raised horizontaly and with feather. On left arm was a small human with horn, on the right arm was a geometric figure (i think a cercle). I don't tend to be obsessed over things that I saw in the non-physical but I'm just curious cause I know i've seen it somewhere !

Welcome to the wonderful World of conscious exploration!   Becoming consciously aware in LDs seems to be just one of the many perks of this practice!  

Here is one new element that I have experienced and that might be interesting for everyone :

Even though you are fully conscious, you act differently once in the non-physical. This is something that I did not realise before because I only had « quick » experiences in the non-physical. It's difficult to describe but it feel like you are 95% conscious, sometimes you do stuff that you will never do in physical. You don't overthink an action you just « do » them or rather you « experience » situations or encounter. Only when back in the physical you realise that the state felt exactly like when you are awake but with something missing... in a sense you are more honest with your emotion/action than in the physical reality. Your belief are very similar but with small differences, for example I have discover (more been showned actually) that deep inside I still believe that something is going out of my body when I have an OBE, while in the physical I have stopped believing my soul leave my body long time ago. You are going inside the mind not outside ! Well I guess i really need to convince myself then..

Yes, it's time to meet your non-physical personality. For some reason, it seems to be the opposite of our physical ones. Not totally opposite, but you can see difference in it. Mine likes to be a sht disturber and passes the torch to me just as the sht is hitting the fan!   Many of my Lds seem to start in 3rd person mode. Just as things are about to get nuts, the "baton" seems to be passed to me and now I am in 1st person mode handling the situation.

So Lumaza, I don't know if this was your Intuition or a coïncidence or maybe just me reading your post before going to sleep but your post triggered one of the most rewarding experience I had in month ! Thank you  

Like I said you are being helped by ____. You can fill in the blank there. Guides come in all forms and they don't necessarily have to be of the non physical way. Experiences you had led you to this Forum in the first place. So to me that says "it was meant to be"!   I don't believe in "co-incidence". I did earlier in my life. But from living my life and observing other's lives, I saw that everything good, bad or ugly had a purpose to it. That kind of thinking leads to a less stressful life!  

 People that have been videoed during Sleep Paralysis in sleep studies in labs have shown no "physical" body movement at all. Believe it or not, the pain you are feeling is not of a physical nature at all. It is normally just a fear test. I still experience vibrations and Astral winds as well. I normally become aware of them just before they begin and then I just allow the process to continue until I find my somewhere else. This will normally happen after the vibrations and sounds come to a peak. When you see it through, all the way, you will feel the exit symptoms go completely away and then there is a eerie silence before the "exit" begins.

It sounds like you are trying to force it. You can't force it. You have to learn to relax into it and "allow" it to happen. To stop it cold, just wiggle your toes! 

 Awesome job with that Casey! 

You are a great teacher and leader in this practice. Keep on being you! 

 I just completed my daily Phase soak session and was kind of re-taught the importance of a few things I have talked about here in the past, but feel seems to get overlooked.

I was working on a new copper wire sculpture design, this one being a Faerie design, which is new to me. I began as usual with my Healing Modality/Mantra. I then began noticing and almost instantly i felt like I was being drawn into the darkness there. The sensation of moving forward soon accompanied it. I then began to feel the "loosening" of my focus on my physical self. (Just a note here. Until you have died, you never really loose 100% focus on your physical self. It is always "priority one").

I felt like I was in a tunnel as I moved forward. I also sensed the feeling of the exploding head thing quickly approaching. I allowed it to commence and soon felt just "there". I was in the 3D darkness and in a great NP focus, so I decided to work on my new sculpture design. After a few moments of mentally working on the design, my session got hi-jacked to deeper focus and that was some kind of discussion on this very thread here.

I enjoy working with and helping the two of you out and due to the hi-jacking of today's session, I see that someone, your Higher Self or the Others, have plans for you as well.

I talk often here about my own little ritual. Today in the mental discussion the importance of this was shown to me once more. Tom Campbell, Xanth and many others here talk about you needing to learn to project/meditate from a number of different locations and circumstances. But first we need to learn to walk before we can run. Rituals are a very important part of sustained success. No, we aren't sacrificing small animals or drinking blood, unless of course that is your thing, lol!   The rituals I talk about are more like, where you are attempting, location, etc. Is it the same chair? Are you always lying down? Is it in the same room? Now, what do you do when you close your eyes? What's your mental preparations?

With me, going to the bathroom and drawing a bath would be my first ritual. Getting into the water, closing my eyes, is my next one. Then my healing modality, which is done by first creating a temple of white light. Spirit around me and inviting those that need it into it. I then do the mental mantra RA, MA, DA, SA, SA, SAI, SOH, HUNG. I have mental imagery that accompanies each syllable. I repeat that 3 times, then I am primed. I now just notice the darkness before my eyes until the "show" begins.

What has all that ritual accomplished? Because of it, Phasing just becomes natural. It is an accepted part of my life. Before I even get into the water, unseen mental prep has already kicked in. Now the Phasing part is given.

After while, ritual isn't necessary. I still use it because it works for me. i find this kind of mental conditioning to be very beneficial in this practice here. Phasing kind of become a "expectation". You have mentally set the stage and now you are awaiting what comes next. When something does come, I don't question it then and there. I just passively observe it and experience what I needed to at that point in time. I can always question it later.

A Astral Log or Dream Journal will do wonders for you beginning. OmCasey here created one based on 365 nights of Dreaming and her experiences in it. She created a thread recently with a PDF to her entire year of projecting. I have about 5 books full of the first years of experiencing. Nowadays though, I only journal the real unique experiences. The other experiences I have seem to involve more personal things and once I am get the lesson or the message, it sticks with me, becomes a part of me and doesn't really need to be journaled anymore. In the beginning though a Journal/Log is a great tool to learn to progress. Log everything. Especially every little sensation you experience along the way. This is the way to see how much you are progressing.

My layout went like this:

                                                                         Date                                          
                                                                                                                                                     Apparatus/Accessories/Tools
                                                                                                                                                   Example: Sleep Mask, Binaural beats/Iso Tones

     Mental Prep: Example: Mantra, counting, visualizing


 Experience: What happened? What did you see, where did you go, etc?

Sensations: Tactile. How did it feel? What body sensations did you experience? Vibrations, sounds, motion, etc. Be aware of everything. I learned to slow the process down so much that i could be aware of everything that was occurring. For those of you that wish this to become your "new normal", you will find that that awareness spills over your physical life here as well. You are so aware, you just seem to "know" things. Your are so in tune with your senses that not much will go unnoticed around you.

Notes: This section would be for any further things of note that you wished to point out here.

Look back at your Journal often. As I said above, rehashing is a great thing to do, even for all of the already experienced people in this field of adventure.

So my problem while in detached state it's that my eyes activate as soon as I try to do something. If I just let the process do it's thing and try to observe what I can, at some point I end up in the Void.

That will happen in the beginning. But as with everything else in this practice it will get better with time.

You will feel like your eyes have been "glazed over". It's really hard to describe, but you will know when it occurs. When that happens, you are just "being".

The question is : what ? I'm rereading all the thread that I used to read back in days. It's crazy how, now that I have experienced how to do it, I can catch important stuff that I was completely missing before. Let me know if you succeed aswell like this I can compare and maybe adapt my process  

I find rehashing to be very beneficial. Sometimes when I find myself blocked, I go back to my books of years ago and begin at square one again. That and I will reread the fantastic Stickies that were created here by all of the many experienced travelers that we had here in the past. I have read Frank Kepple's entire posting history here about 15 times now.

I'm just beginning to get better at this part, but I'll take a stab at this one.

See with your mind/mind's eye and not your physical eyes. I like to think of it as like daydreaming or visualizing, focus on the scenario mentally not physically. For me it's a sensation of having my awareness in the center or on top of my head, as soon as it moves to the front(to the eyes) the scenario/image starts to disappear. Hope it makes some kind of sense to you  

You are advancing in spades Bob!  

Upon closing your eyes you are met with a simple flat darkness. It is right there in front of you. The first images you get seem to be on a flat screen as well. The visuals and even the darkness begin to take on more depth until finally you a in HD. People talk about joining the scenario. When the scene/darkness turns to HD, there is nothing to join. You are already there. Set a intent and be off. My intent is to be shown what I need to see and taught what I need to learn. Then I trust and allow the process to commence.

I find that Daydreaming and "remembering" are things that do appear in the "upper screen" known as the Mind's eye. There is a lower screen, "physical eye viewing" and a upper screen, "Mind's eye" view. You can feel when your eyes are still chasing a visual. When your Mind's eye is engaged, you don't feel any movement at all.

Bob, I have replied often recently about something that has been occurring with me that I call "the exploding head syndrome". It occurs just as you say, but it doesn't seem like you have had it apex yet. I will feel my focus leaving the physical eye viewing and moving upwards. The next thing I know there is a very powerful, but short lived boost of energy. At the time it is overwhelming. I feared it at first, but then decided one time to allow it and see it through. As soon as I did, I found myself deep in a 3d setting. I then engaged motion and was off.

I use motion often in my Phase sessions. I find it really takes you deeper. it can be a quite a ride and very intense as well. You can use a simple driving simulation or a "Pace car" like scenario, where you are just following it from a short distance away. Just simply mentally intend to move forward into the darkness. When I do that, I normally experience a "Cave" kind of setting. As I am moving forward, I am aware of things that seem to be to the left, right, in front and behind me. Soon I get to the end of the cave, tunnel, hallway, etc. and see something new.

Dogs and especially puppies always reflect and live in the moment. They don't question what is going on. Happy little fellow is showing you the way.

Yes, always playful He is showing that you are well on your way to achieving your goals! 

Hi Lumaza ! Thank you for your reply and for your insight !

Your welcome. I shall attempt to answer your questions here.

Regarding the night pratice, I'm very interested to know how you were able to change the habit of falling asleep. I'm assuming it's just via pratice/trial and error but maybe there is something more to it ? I am fascinated by the fact that someone is able to achieve a complete night while being conscious. I'm a bit confused however, if you are still aware during all the sleep cycles this means that your body is resting like a regular night and and you should feel fresh at the end of the night ? Or do you feel really tired because your mind has been active all night ? Also do you have a good website/book that you recommend about Tibetan Dream Yoga?

At first I found that the more I practiced, the more "automatic" noticing seemed to get. I would just close my eyes and automatically noticing would kick in, This was whether I wanted/consciously intended it or not. My brain felt like it was changing in some way.

It came to whole new level though when I received a new light/sound machine for Christmas. I already had been experimenting for a few years with another one that i enjoyed. This new machine seemed to have some kind of glitch in it that led to a very powerful light pulse that left me with what is known as Trigeminal Neuralgia. The nerve in my left eye would go nuts with spasms every time I closed my eyes. So, I needed to learn to adapt with that. I had to hold onto to the left side of my face, near my eye, as I attempted to fall asleep. It was extremely uncomfortable. It would take hours some nights to finally lose consciousness. But while doing this, I seemed to stay consciously aware right into the Dream cycle. After while it was "cycles". For awhile there I couldn't turn it off. But I learned so much from it. Tibetan Dream Yoga is when you stay awake through your Dream cycles. You can do a google search on that. Robert Moss is a great guy to help your further understanding. I have posted videos by him here on the Pulse in the past.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/dreaming_is_waking_up-t39742.0.html

I still experience it today. At first when it happened, I would be mentally taxed the next day. After while, I got used to it. I did see that there is a very good reason we don't all do this now though. It's hard to live "two" or should I say many separate lives. It opened my eyes up to "parallel realities" as well.

I also would like your advice on a small problem regarding the time it take to access the void. For me the entire process from seating on the couch to entering the void take between 60 to 90 minutes. Because I completely lose sense of time when I am in the detached mode it really feel like I'm doing this for only 30mn but in reality more than one hour has passed.  This is a problem because I cannot always afford 90mn of free time everyday and therefore I can only do it sometimes during the week. So I have decided to see if I could accelerate the process by being a little bit more active during the « detachement State » when the yo-yo effect start. Since the Images/scenario are very vivid, I have tried many times to look at the border of an image or looking for a small detail in the scenario that could allow me to step into it but the images disappear as soon as I try to do something with it. It really feel like I'm disturbing a natural process. As soon as I stop trying to do something, the process resume and the images reappear. I am not entirely sure if there is something that has to be done. Maybe you just have to do it over and over until one day you can do it 20mn ? I know you, Szaxx and many others are able to do it but way quicker than me so i think it's a good idea to ask you directly.

I know exactly what you are talking about. Actually one of the famous Authors or Astral projection named "Jurgen Ziewe" talked about  this very thing too. It would take him a good hour to hour and half to get into the NP.
https://www.multidimensionalman.com/Multidimensional-Man/Astral_Travel_and_life_after_death.html

When I started here, it did with me as well. That's why I began experimenting with ways to keep my mind busy, while the shift occurred. That came via my Doorway process, Phantom Wiggling, all kinds of things. I found it so boring to just stare at the darkness for a good hour. Many people say their "monkey mind" keeps them from meditating. i found a way to keep that monkey mind occupied. Through my years of experimenting I found that the shift was much closer than I had first thought it was. I didn't need a hour any more. Now the shift comes quite quickly.

That Phantom Wiggling was great practice. I usually used it in the daytimes though. It helped me further develop my 6 pt directional focus technique. I wrote more about that under my previous name "Lionheart" in this thread here.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/how_exactly_do_you_perform_the_phantom_wiggle_method-t44583.0.html


Why I am always preaching about is importance of practicing often is because you begin to notice exactly where you are in the process. You get used to feeling of being in that state. There are some pretty tell tale signs.

This will likely be the best advise I can give you "STOP TRYING TO CONTROL EVERYTHING". We Humans seem to have to control everything. "STOP THAT". Set the stage, prime the pump, whatever you want to call it and ALLOW what's going to happen to happen. Example: Today in my own Phase session, (which I do in my bathtub), after I was comfortable in the water and did my opening ritual, (mine be a healing Mantra for those that need it), I started one of my favorite focus targets. That being shooting hoops. After about the 3 shot, my focus stayed looking at the basketball net. While focusing on the net itself, once in a while I could see how the net moved while a ball was going through it. My focus on the net seemed to intensify and also zoom in. It zoomed in so close that now all I could see was the netting itself. I then mentally moved myself forward and began moving through this very odd world of strings. The strings soon became grids. The scene had taken on it's own life and I was there for the ride. About an hour later, my focus went back to my physical body and I ended the session. The only part I intended to see was the opening action of shooting a ball at the hoop. I allowed what was going to happen to happen and let my curiosity drive the scenario as far it wanted to go.

Quick last question : I am not able to stay too long in the non-physical yet, but still long enough to have quick fun experiences. I plan to tackle this problem after having a very good understanding of how the switch from physical to non-physical works. However if I end up in a lucid dream or an OBE type situation while practicing, I try to call on "guides" to see if I can interact with them and also ask more personal questions to them regarding my pratice or my life. Everytime I have called for a guide nothing happened. I have heard that if you don't really need them, they never shows up. Maybe it's true and I don't really need anything or I already have the answer from my question. I am still trying from time to time to call for guides anyway. Only recently has I was calling for a guide to answer a question, a very cute baby dog appear next to me ! "So you are my guide ? How do I know this not just a dream figure ?" The dog is just happy and bark at me. It now appear eveytime I call for a guide, it's fine I love dogs but......I don't know how to communicate it's literally a baby dog barking and being happy   It's the cutest dog I have ever seen so at least it's always a pleasant moment but what am I suppose to do ?

Guides appear when you need them. They can come in all shapes and forms. Right now you are working on getting your bearings there. Don't rush things. What does a happy Dog mean to you? The NP speaks in symbolism. I haven't found a simple yes or no answer anywhere there. Sometimes you have to put what you see together, like you are building some kind of puzzle.

You are doing great my friend. Just learn to be patient. Your persistent practicing will pay off in the end!  

Hello again !

I wanted to give you guys an update on my pratice of accessing non-physical realities. It took me months but I am finally able to understand what was wrong with my pratice and since october I can now do it more or less at will  

Congratulations MagicOwl. I see that your long Journey is now paying off. We can talk here about this subject until we are blue in the face, but nothing beats personal experience, explorations and also investigation. . You find out what works and what doesn't, at least that is for you personally.

I'm so happy to finally have found a way to do it but since this is all very recent I still have questions regarding the process :

1) Even though I'm able to access the Void or OBE when I want, there are conditions. I can only doing it during daytime in a seated or half lying position ! As soon as I try to do it at night when I'm going to bed, I end up falling asleep for real this time. The process start exactly the same way as during the day except that this time if I let go there is no "yo-yo effect" (maybe 2-3 if I'm lucky) and therefore only a one way ticket to sleep. I came to the conclusion that it's actually my body position during my daytime pratice that allow me to let go and go very deep in the Void, but since I'm lying in my bed at night I kind of loose this natural anchor. Maybe it's just a belief ? I have tried to look for informations on the forum but couldn't find anything. I'm sure it's doable but I can't find a solution to this problem.

Remember, all your life you have trained yourself that "bed" is for sleep! Because of that, lying down in your bed, automatically kicks the sleep process into gear. You can change that. But take it from experience, "be careful what you wish for". I have totally messed up my automatic sleep process, Too many nights, just lying down in bed automatically kicks in the "noticing" process, which leads to sleepless nights. This also taught me what is known as Tibetan Dream yoga, whereas you don't really fall asleep. You just stay aware all the way into the Dream cycles and beyond. Even if it's not what you intend at the moment.

2) After all this I still don't understand Sleep Paralysis. Everywhere I look, I see horror stories about monsters, demons and black shadows that attack you when your body is paralyzed. Everytime I access the Void my body is gone yes but it's just in a sort of "sleep mode" and I have access to it at anytime I want. Granted this is all new to me, I went to the Void multiple time and I have never suffered from paralysis or strong hallucinations that scared you to death. I'm just letting go, end up in the detached state and after a certain time boom i'm in the void, that's all really. At what point in the process does people usualy suffer from this ? How come so many people are affected by this phenomenon ? Is this related to a simple belief or a biological problem ?

Not everyone experiences sleep paralysis and if they did experience it once or twice, it doesn't occur every time. Many fear tests do come as a result of spontaneous sleep paralysis though.

I have many questions but I will stop here, it's getting late. I'm sorry if this is a bit confusing but it's actually much harder than I thought to describe a process that basically happen in my head and in a foreign language !
But the feeling of stepping into it's own mind and trying to optimize the process is something that I enjoy a lot so it's worth it  

Keep the questions coming. We will answer them to the best of our ability.

Tom Campbell said in the past that the "non physical" is just a simple shift in consciousness away. We are the ones that get in it's way and make it way more difficult then it need be!

All our lives we have been taught that all we are is physical beings. Once you change your mindset on that, you will also change your reality! But it is only you and you alone that can change that mindset. That all comes as a result of your own personal explorations. 

Same here, my new favorite channel for just that is this one https://www.youtube.com/c/ViperTVStudios/videos
Feynman lectures are also great for this, but maybe that's just me..

Wow Bob, you gave us a link to a page that looks like it was "tailor made" for me, lol!  Everything on that youtube page interests me and now will consume my nightly focus for a while while I work here at nighttime. Thank You for that! 

Last night I listened to a fantastic interview on the Jimmy Church Radio Show. Jimmy's Guest was James Redfield who is the Author of the classic "Celestine Prophecy Series" of books. James was sharing how to stay positive in a negative World. Since we are sharing links here, I will share that one as well. If you want to skip Jimmy's 30 minute intro, you can fast-forward to the 30 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYkScs0FmvU

Sounds intense!

It can be! The first time I experienced it I thought it was some kind of bizarre fear test. But then i soon saw that it seemed to be some kind of intermediary between here and there. So, now, I just see it through.

I will definitely continue to use the "candle technique/method", maybe not for 15 minutes as it did strain the eyes a bit. But I really think it's great, as it allows you to work on the focus with open eyes and gives you a "target" with closed eyes. It also lead to a nice short lucid dream I just dumped in my little journal.

Yes, it can definitely strain your eyes, at first that is. The next time, you know to keep a passive view instead of a intense one.

...and yes, one usually leads to the other. Many people report their first conscious OBE or LD by merely listening to a Speaker or simply reading a book on the subject.

Thank you guys so much, these videos are wonderful. I sometimes fall asleep to music or stories I find on yt.

I tried the staring at a candle thing yesterday, keeping focus on the outline of the flame and not the flame itself. While doing this sometimes it was like the hole room would disappear and only the flame remained. After closing my eyes I did the same thing with the bright dot ("imprint"), not looking/ focusing directly at it but around it, if I looked directly at it, it would quickly fade away, but came back when letting eyes unfocus. After the "imprint" was completely gone and the hypnagogic imagery started to appear, I again did the same thing and it really seems to work. Best way I can describe it would be unfocusing the eyes on command or not letting them focus directly on the "image", kinda like fighting the natural instinct/reflex.

This makes perfect sense now 

Awesome Bob! I love seeing posts like this where the person applies a method and it works!  This practice doesn't always have to be such a struggle.

Many times while focusing, i will all of a sudden get a incredibly powerful, overwhelming prompt to "unfocus", as you put it. This immediately leads to what i call the "exploding head syndrome", In this I get a overwhelming surge of energy that seems to apex at or above my head. Although this energy is strong, it is also very short lasting. Then I am "there", I am now experiencing with my "Mind's eye", which to me seems like a singular point of consciousness.

The exact opposite happens for me =( When I try to focus on any instance of these types of hypnogogic images, it/they vanish. If I notice but don't really "LOOK" at them, then they keep going. Does anyone else have this issue? Or is it just me LOL

I experience that occasionally as well. Like we say, it really is a balancing act of sorts. You have to learn to adapt to what is given to you.

Sometimes I begin to visualize and then something else occurs, either visually, tactile like or some other sense seems to get activated. Other times I can stick with one visualization and all of it's "morphing" for a good amount of time. The more you practice this, the easier it becomes to just shift your conscious awareness from here to there, wherever there at the time may be. We say often here that you need to go with the flow. You will see how things change rather rapidly. I have a number of techniques that I can go to if one doesn't seem to be working at the time. Mantras, counting, visualizing, noticing, etc. There seems to be countless ways to achieve a successful shift in consciousness. But in the end they all come down to the same thing and that is to be able to fully release your "physical'" focus so you may experience anew.

Practicing often gets you "used" to the feeling of experiencing anew. You will actually become more aware of everything around too. While doing something like watching a TV program, movie, reading a book, etc,, you will experience that shift beginning to occur. It all starts then with the very subtle body tingles. It's akin to the feeling of pins and needles.

Thanks for the answer Lumaza!

I've done or rather tried to do the candle flame visualization in the past, after reading an article on meditation that described it. But eventually I gave up on it, because all I see is blackness.

Only one time for a split second did I see a flame with closed eyes, like it was actually there. I can imagine it in my mind, but not actually see it, if that makes sense . But I'm gonna give it another try.

Here's a tip. Use a "real" candle to start with. When you stare at it in a completely dark room for about 15 minutes, you are left with a "imprint" of that scene for about a minute. Use that to your advantage!

 While using the candle staring tech, I had my first completely conscious OBE, with all the bells and whistles. The vibrations felt like a violent earthquake and the sound was that of what I could only describe as a helicopter landing on my roof. It was surreal. The next thing I saw was my immediate surroundings.

This is video that taught me that technique years ago!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkWNB9inwI0

So, I found many interesting scenes in YouTube with ambient noises.

Very nice! It looks just like Minnesota!   Thanks for the share Lightbeam!  

I too save these kind of videos on my computer. I have a number of them to choose from that I listen to in my last hour before bed. This is one of my favorites. The scenery is constantly changing in it, which I like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXH-QsPTeEI

I've been having an increase in these lately before waking up, in that half-asleep/half-awake state. But I'm only able to hold onto them for a short time before they fade away and I fully wake up, at most around 10 sec.

Was wandering if anyone have experience in getting them to last longer, or if it's "just" a case of passively observing and getting used to them ?

You get them to last longer by honing in on them. Strengthening your ability to hold your focus on one thing or area will greatly help you here. You can practice by visualizing. Pick an object, example a candle flame and lock your focus onto it. It will likely soon morph anew. Observe it as it does. This is when you allow your "curiosity" to steer your way. You can practice "pin pointing" your focus at any time. Just close your eyes and visualize.

Here's some examples of what I've been seeing:


Wolves face.
Green background with a green cone in the middle that stood out in 3d, with 3/4 symbols arranged vertically.
Cute/friendly smiling ghostbusters logo waving at me.
Trippy visual, half squares from corners towards center in every color of the rainbow.
Outline of black shapes getting filled out by white in cool looking patterns, from the inside out and outside in.
Hole field of vision filled with lines of text, with words in various places morphing into other words.
Big manor house seen from a big bright green lawn.

Those are all great "targets" to teach you to further improve your ability to hold a focus. It's kind of like a balancing sorts though. The words of a famous song by 38 Special come to mind here. "HOLD ON LOOSELY, BUT DON'T LET GO!".

meaning it's important, or it should be kept after it gets "solid" too? Or both?

Both. I personally continue to notice for a few minutes even after it becomes solid. This is when I start using my peripheral vision, which is normally a 360 degree viewing screen. That seems to help me adapt to my new environment.

Everything makes much more sense now, and I came to realize that EV was sooo right about my first OBE experience not being by accident, as it has come in a perfect time of my life.

Many people will get that "wake up" call, yet only a few truly answer it. To answer it goes against everything they have learned in this physical school here that we call Earth.

Although I guess and as I read other experiences/Xanth's book/etc, this passive observer status should be kept all the way from the start until the scene gets "solid".

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Hi All,

I'm interested in your opinion in the role of emotions in Phasing, I mean what are they important in a rundown/noticing to induce phasing at the start of a session?
Is it good if the rundown is full of them, or should they be avoided completely? Should there be a balance? Or are they totally irrelevant?
Thanks

You can use anything at your disposal as long as it works for you personally. I don't. I use motion based focuses. Even though you can get involved in the scenario at hand that you are experiencing and you may display some kind of emotion, it isn't imperative that you do. The first thing I do when I gain awareness in a NPR environment, no matter how I got there (Phasing, Lucid Dream, etc.), is to passively observe everything with a air of curiosity. I like to take everything in first before I interact with it.

[PRACTICE]

What am I missing?

You aren't missing anything. Now it is time to apply the three "Ps". Those are "PRACTICE, PATIENCE and lastly, Perseverance !

I do a Phase session almost everyday. It has become a welcome part of my daily life. You can read more about this in this Sticky here that I created. It shows how I began with something simple like Geometric shapes and colors. I then began experimenting with all kinds of things and soon found that the answer for me at least was to use a focus based on "motion". That took me farther and faster then I could even imagine!
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_consciousness/the_doorway-t46013.0.html

 First off, welcome to the Astral Pulse!  

There is quite a bit we can all say about your experience. But for now, I will just give you this Sticky here to read. It should help you understand what happened and why. After you have familiarized yourself with that thread and have a better understanding of the whats and whys, we can aide you in utilizing this "paralysis" state to further your NP (Non Physical) experiences and explorations there. It should answer quite a few of your initial inquiries. Many, if not all of us here have experienced this phenomenon at one time or another. I still experience it regularly even today. Yes, it can be the most terrifying thing you can experience. But once you learn how to allow it to occur and see it through you will open your eyes to a whole new way of thinking. While in that state, thought = action instantaneously. So, things can get out of control very quickly. You will learn in time to control your thoughts though.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/everything_you_could_ever_want_to_know_about_sleep_paralysis-t38734.0.html

You will find the Stickies on the Astral Pulse to be quite helpful!  

 We see and experience some of the strangest things in the NPR (Non Physical Realms). So much of it is so hard to explain in easy to understand Human words and terms here. Euphoric, orgasmic, these are all energies you can experience. I have a Phasing technique that leads me to very quickly have to readjust my physical vision while in the act of just noticing the darkness before my eyes. When the urge/prompt hits, I immediately get a full body rush that apexes at my head. I have called this the "exploding head syndrome", because that is just what it feels like. It's probably akin to what some term a "Kundalini" experience. The sensation is so hard to explain. It feels like it's Euphoric, Orgasmic and any other "ic" you wish to add here. It's so incredibly powerful, but very short lived. Once it is has passed, I am left in a complete "Mind's eye" viewing. I no longer feel my eyes chasing the scene. It's more like I am one with the void. Like I said, it's very hard to explain.

I have experienced places of total "white light". The feeling there was of a very powerful burst of unconditional Love and Bliss. I have experienced areas where there is pure darkness as well. Actually, I love to just bask in that very peaceful and tranquil energy there. I have seen areas that are totally composed of just Grids. Entire realms built before my eyes. I have felt the the sensation of merging energies and even colors. So many different things. So have many people on this Forum here.

My physical body never responded to any of this because the first thing I do when I begin my sessions is to mentally intend to release my focus over my physical body so I may turn outwards or inwards depending on the need at the time.

Now to the add a bit to what EV and Shineling were saying in their excellent replies above. Years ago while I was a Moderator at this Forum under my old name "Lionheart", I noticed that many of the guests here were viewing this same thread. The threads title is "Masturbation/incubi and Sucubi". To this day the thread has almost a 100,000 views. On Sept 14th 2013 I finally replied on the thread myself. My reply though seemed to go against the status quo of that thread. After I made my reply though, I noticed how others experienced members here chimed in and not only agree with what I said, but they also shared their own personal experiences pertaining to the conversation. We got some excellent replies there. MY goal was to get people to look at it in a whole different way.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_psychic_and_paranormal/masturbationincubi_and_sucubi-t466.25.html

Light and darkness as good vs evil, I don't really subscribe to. Everything has to do with intent. Unfortunately, during our lives we experience quite a bit of "negative programming". That programming will tend to drive our experiences in the NPR, that is, until we finally learn how to overcome and change our mindsets on things there.

You talked about the fact that you had a few experiences, then they stopped and why. That's likely because you used up your "byes". Let me explain that. Many people are given very short, but revealing and extraordinary "sneak peeks" of what could be. Once they are done, the real work begins. That's if you wish to pursue this further. Many people decide on some level not to pursue it and just return to living the life of a 100% physical focus. The people that decide to do the work though, they get to one day reap the rewards of said action. The experiences are such phenoms so that they open your eyes. When they are done, unfortunately many people explain them away in their own minds and go back to closing their eyes to any further "conscious" remembrance of them. Life itself will do that as well. In your youth it was so easy. Then life hit and completely drove you into living a life of 100% physical focus. Later in your life, as things change, so do you and that's when the NPR will call back to you again. This gives you another choice to just receive the sneak peeks and be fine with that or to actually do the work it takes to hone your skills with conscious NPR exploration.