LDs a Paradise for Perverts? & Future experiments!

T_Kman0610 · September 24, 2003, 21:15:10

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Originally posted by Hyperdimensional

Hi forum,

Everyone knows that when you have a lucid dream and you have the control any thing is possible... My question is next, is the lucid dream a paraise for perverts?, A pedophile can have sex with children, a rapist can do it with any females or males, an assassin can kill anyone, any type of pervertions are possible, what do you think about this?

Best regards

i think maybe it might turn into one, but i dont feel that perverts would have any knowledge of this stuff, besides even if they were perverts, they arent physically touching anyone, it is their own private dream land and only theirs. they can do anything thy want.
so ya you can say that perverts can go lucid and rape children kill people etc. i just dont feel its rght to do so in any way shape or form though.

thanx,
T_Kman0610

Nahaz · September 25, 2003, 00:01:55

All is God playing out her/his desires and fantasies. To condemn one aspect's actions is to condemn ones self. To embrace all aspects is to become Whole again.

beavis · September 25, 2003, 16:25:31

tkman i dont feel that perverts would have any knowledge of this stuff,

I'm a pervert *hehehe hehehhehehhehehhehehehe heheheheh hehehehe hehehheheheh* </stupid beavis and butthead laugh>

besides even if they were perverts, they arent physically touching anyone,

They could touch someone nonphysically.

it is their own private dream land and only theirs.

Some dreams have other real entities in them, sometimes human.

Lucid dreams are a paradise for everybody, including perverts.

Eukaryote · October 02, 2003, 15:50:07

During about half of my lucid dreams I get the urge to run off and have sex with someone, but only rarely do I act on it. When a dream gets lucid there is typicaly to much sort out first, and by the time that happens there is something within the dream that requires my attention as it pertains to waking life. Or I forget that it's lucid.

jc84corvette · October 02, 2003, 19:54:26

I like this topic to have a LOT of attention. Its a real great topic!

astralspinner · October 03, 2003, 08:46:25

Possibly.

But since it doesn't hurt anyone, what does it matter?

If anything, it should be encouraged - doing something in dreams to dream figures is surely better than doing it in the physical plane to real people.

Nagual · October 03, 2003, 11:09:15

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But since it doesn't hurt anyone, what does it matter?
If anything, it should be encouraged - doing something in dreams to dream figures is surely better than doing it in the physical plane to real people.

Go tell that to the poor alien victims!!! [

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] Joking aside, I really hope you are right when you say that it doesn't hurt anyone... What if one of the victim is another dreamer/projector...?

jc84corvette · October 03, 2003, 17:10:23

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Originally posted by astralspinner

Possibly.

But since it doesn't hurt anyone, what does it matter?

If anything, it should be encouraged - doing something in dreams to dream figures is surely better than doing it in the physical plane to real people.

I agree, perverts doing "it" in a LD is far more better than doing it in real life.

LA FORET MAUVE · October 04, 2003, 01:08:22

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Originally posted by Hyperdimensional

4. Then I realize any pervertion is possible, but this is sick, so I recommend you don't pervert too much.. I did the pervertions for experimental purpose only.

HAHAHA !

Tombo · October 05, 2003, 04:04:48

I assume that the person doing the pervert stuff is the one that will get hurt the most, in a karmic sense.

I think there are much more rewarding things to do in a LD then playing out pervert fantasies. I would suggest reading some stuff about dream Yoga and things like that.

And if you don't care about that, what I assume you will:
Atleast you could try to be the woman next time (for experimental purpose only, lol). Or even be both persons at the same time (yes that should be possible as well).

Hephaestus · October 05, 2003, 06:18:22

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Originally posted by Hyperdimensional

2.I had sex with my sister, just curiosity..

dino333 · October 08, 2003, 18:39:27

adults only? Time for me to jump ship!

James S · October 08, 2003, 21:39:54

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Originally posted by Nagual
Go tell that to the poor alien victims!!!

Hah! About time they got a bit of probing back, heh?

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James.

Mustardseed · October 08, 2003, 21:52:00

If your statements are true. which they might not be they say more about your present attitude than anything. I have also had a chance to live out some sexual fantasies but since they did not appear normal to me they ended the LD. If killing off folks and all the stuf you did did not wake you up I would have a serious question about you. No offence meant here. Maintaining a lucid dream requires a fair bit of consentration for me and anything that outrageous would in my opinion only be possible for someone for whom this behaviour is either natural or such a strong urge that it has been lived out in fantasies multiple times before
Regards MS

Syke · October 09, 2003, 10:36:29

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Originally posted by Hyperdimensional

I don't expect you get impressed with this "healthy perversions", the sickest ones are for adults only, so I don't put them in this forum..

Best regards

YOU MEAN THERE ARE ONES SICKER THEN SCREWING YOUR SISTER?!?!?!?!?!?!?............. tha..tha... thats just bloody... i have no words....

im torn between if its a good thing for pedos or not.... on one hand its better that they get their kicks in the astral and not physically hurting anyone..... but on the other hand they might just get a stronger taste for it and maybe ideas on what to do in the physical..... so yeah i dunno

-Syke

Nagual · October 10, 2003, 11:19:01

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The Lucid dream is just a dream

I just hope you're right...

TheLunatic · October 10, 2003, 19:32:30

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Originally posted by Mustardseed

If your statements are true. which they might not be they say more about your present attitude than anything. I have also had a chance to live out some sexual fantasies but since they did not appear normal to me they ended the LD. If killing off folks and all the stuf you did did not wake you up I would have a serious question about you. No offence meant here. Maintaining a lucid dream requires a fair bit of consentration for me and anything that outrageous would in my opinion only be possible for someone for whom this behaviour is either natural or such a strong urge that it has been lived out in fantasies multiple times before
Regards MS

I disagree with you completely. People shouldn't try and sensor their dreams because they think they are doing something wrong in them. Just because you dream about something doesn't mean you are evil or a bad person. Dreams are outlets for subconscious desires and fears.

Don't judge others because they have the freedom to explore themselves in dreams. We all have animalistic desires even if we don't realize it.

Dreams are great places to off load negative feelings...

I encourage everything to dream freely and without regrets or worry!

Tombo · October 11, 2003, 06:30:21

By doing something "bad" you wont get rid of it, thats a missunderstanding. I don't see much sense in doing these pervertions anyway (What do you meany experimental purpose?!) other then satisfy ones lust. And I really don't that it's all positve.

TheLunatic · October 11, 2003, 09:39:34

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Originally posted by tombodenmann

By doing something "bad" you wont get rid of it, thats a missunderstanding. I don't see much sense in doing these pervertions anyway (What do you meany experimental purpose?!) other then satisfy ones lust. And I really don't that it's all positve.

Your right your not going to get rid of anything but maybe you can explore why you are who you are and come to grips with what your motovations are.

To try and ignore/hide from youself isn't going to get you anywhere.

Mustardseed · October 11, 2003, 14:41:40

Well then that seems fine for you so what can I say. I look at it different. To me the more you fantasise about something the closer you come to living it out. That could be either sexual or other things. The fantasy can start to "drive" you and in the end become almost like an oppression, lowering you to the natural built in moral kodex of man, ....one day dreaming about it is not enough. That is just my opinion.
Regards MS

TheLunatic · October 11, 2003, 15:03:49

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Originally posted by Mustardseed

Well then that seems fine for you so what can I say. I look at it different. To me the more you fantasise about something the closer you come to living it out. That could be either sexual or other things. The fantasy can start to "drive" you and in the end become almost like an oppression, lowering you to the natural built in moral kodex of man, ....one day dreaming about it is not enough. That is just my opinion.
Regards MS

HEY, I can see where you're coming from. I've never had any problems but some people would and will... To each his own.

Regards,
-Luke

Tombo · October 12, 2003, 04:38:22

Here's my opinion: Whether a action(physical action, thought, fantasie,dream) is good or bad is a relativ statement. However this action will create an effect for others and for YOU in the first place. Whether this action happens in the dream, LD, Astral, physical, Mind or somewere else it will have an effect on you and others anyways. If this effect is labeled good or bad is relativ but it's a misconception to think that the LD is a "world on its own". Of course it can be a great place to explore yout pervertions but not without effect.

Syke · October 12, 2003, 07:50:56

Hyperdimensional you said:

"If you think a person is pervert by having pervert lucid dreams, you maybe the sick one."

doesnt performing a perverted act therefore make you a pervert... whether it be a perverted dream or something in the physical.

im not saying that sex in LD's is a bad thing, just perverted sex for peadophiles or rapists is. it'd give them ideas and fuel.
take this for instance, i might spend the whole day imagining eating a beautiful roast dinner that i know im having that night... and all through the day i keep thinking about it, just fuelling my desire for it... now if i had a lucid dream about it, when i woke up id be craving it like all hell... this might work the same for peadophiles.

and if im going to rob a bank (not that i would) the best way to go about it is to write up a plan and go through it in my head with every detail... now imagine how much easier that bank job would be if i LDed it... same with a rapist, they could lucid dream the whole scenario to get it all down-pat.

So everyone should be careful to not let their desires control them.
-Syke

Mustardseed · October 12, 2003, 10:47:54

Syke
You say it better than I . I am in total agreement hare.
Regards MS

_PJ_ · October 12, 2003, 18:33:42

quote:
Originally posted by Nahaz

All is God playing out her/his desires and fantasies. To condemn one aspect's actions is to condemn ones self. To embrace all aspects is to become Whole again.

1. You shouldn't say things about God that you don't know or true.

2. I wonder how many people have lucid dreams/fantasies about having sex with a member of their family

3. I thought you generally couldn't conrtol dreams, or is everyone psychic here and somehow able to?

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