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Quote from: Xanth on March 04, 2018, 04:18:46See, this is what I mean by people limit themselves by the labels they use.You already ARE projecting... 2 to 4 times per week. You're just arbitrarily calling it a lucid dream.You're consciously aware that you're in the non-physical while you're in the non-physical... that's a projection. Sounds like you're doing great already!! Better than most people on this forum, in fact. So, you see, there's nothing more you need to do. Just enjoy yourself now. Do what you want to do!Btw... I *LOVE* that website. I'm gonna have some fun with it. hehe
Quote from: luffy28 on March 04, 2018, 04:40:49That was before now I'm rarely if ever even recalling a dream. Also, I know that LD and AP do happen in the same dimension.
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Quote from: luffy28 on March 04, 2018, 05:45:20I'm in the process of reading the phasing_primer book. I wanted to ask on pg.30 Eyes Closed / Body Still (EC/BS) State what did you mean when you said that you had 6 experiences in a row? Were those 6 experiences in one day? Or 6 experiences within / over 6 days meaning 1 each day?
QuoteThis basically explains obe4u's technique in one page. The only difference is that obe4u says to be still upon awakening. Then try to separate for 3 to 5 seconds then if that doesn't work just do minimum two techniques for 3 to 5 seconds each.
Quote from: luffy28 on March 04, 2018, 21:28:41I wanted to know if I could do wbtb / and or obe4u with obstructive sleep apnea. Has anyone with any type of sleeping disorder like sleep apnea still been able to do the wbtb technique / obe4u technique?Thanks.
Quote from: Xanth on March 05, 2018, 04:32:30Phildan1,Yeah, it's kind of driving me mental lately. LOLThey are their own worst enemy.It's exactly why I try so hard to get people to lose the labels. In the end, they only hold you back.The goal one should try to have is to simply "be consciously aware while you're non-physical"... that's it. That's the holy grail right there, and when they do it, they still don't believe it.
Quote from: luffy28 on March 06, 2018, 18:37:12I wanted to also know how to know the difference between the NP and physical? The reason I'm asking is that I don't notice (especially during a dream state) when I'm in the NP. When I've had lucid dreams I've felt like I'm controlling it 80-85% of the time at the most. I also want to know what type of signs I can tell myself (or notice) when I'm in the NP. The reason I'm asking is that I know the NP is / can be virtually like the physical when it comes to senses / perceptions etc...Thanks.
Quote from: baro-san on March 06, 2018, 21:16:41Two suggestions:1. Try to do things that yo can't do in the physical, like flying.2. Try to remember how you got in the situation you are. You probably won't if you're dreaming.
Quote from: luffy28 on March 08, 2018, 18:01:44Would I be better off doing it with visualizations? I don' know how I would be able for example try flying in the physical. Could you describe how you would attempt flying (or morphing into another person)?Thanks.
Quote from: Phildan1 on March 06, 2018, 19:38:22It can be the same, maybe more real than the physical, I experience it a lot. At the beginning of any scenery if you managed to be aware anything, it takes observational experience and still you won't know for sure that you are seemingly walking from one reality into the other, the shift between worlds is really quick for me, I don't notice them for first. I've learnt that there are no really big differences, maybe that we are here in an intensive focus and we got used to this physical world from the countless ones. I guess your NP self or the system tries to show you that other worlds or realities are as real as any other. It still amazes me too and it only takes intent to achieve bigger awareness in them - even if it just daily mind noise.So noticing that you are there... well if you are doing it under regular sleep like me, it takes a while, maybe the whole scenery is 3/4 way over (I hate it because not so much "time" left and I tend to mess it up many times with even a slight thought of my physical self here, his memories etc) already when you realize yourself lol. If you have the intent to be aware, I think somebody will help you with various or nonsense tools. But everybody is different. Maybe you will see a relative (sibling or parent) three times at the same place (lol) or shoot blasts from your hands and it does the trick.
Quote from: Rconrad on March 11, 2018, 21:29:26Hey LuffyI also have sleep apnea which interferes with breathing while lying on my back. The only thing i do is turn my head left or right to open the passages better yet they still slightly close which isnt good when you try to hover at the sleep/wake state. As far as Radugas technique.....as soon as you awaken in the morning and remember you are trying to go ob, then simply relax enough as if you were trying to go back asleep BUT remain conscious. My problem with Radugas technique is i am usually unable to remember that i wanted to attemt an obe before its to late and i have awoken to much. You need to stay right at that sleep/wake line without awakening to much. When i am able to do this i get vibrations in which i am just recently learning exit texhniques. Good luck and keep trying!
Quote from: luffy28 on March 13, 2018, 22:03:46Last night I set an alarm for 4.5 to 5 hours after sleep. When the alarm went off I went back to bed and didn't attempt anything. I also had another smartphone and shut if off because of the loud sound.Any advice?Thanks.