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I leave for an "extended vacation" and your plowing full speed ahead and phasing like mad!  Damn you!  I knew you would surpass me.  What an awesome experience.  I think im going to go and try to phase now just cus' I'm jelous.

Btw... what happened to the funny emoticon.  the balloon one hitting himself in the face?  I'm saddened to see it go. 

Good start.  Keep'em coming.  You just need to gain control and maybe a bit more composure while OBE!    I know its not easy.

I get something like this atleast once a month.  Its something I've learned to live with.  I have come to the firm conclusion that it is either mischevious AP'ers passing through and having a laugh or as you stated our own Astral bodies.  Any way you dice it I've had no adverse effects from it and would probably get bored with life if they stopped.  Atleast I have something to contemplate when I wake up from it dispite how horribly terrifying it can get at times.

WOw.... ive never seen someone try to cover so much ground in one book, it almost seems like there trying to get as many people interested (aka suckered) into buying it so they can make alot of money... wait a second....

But on a serious note:  Books like this always promise to answer all of lifes questions and they claim to have observed over long periods of time the ACTUAL REAL AND ONLY TRUTH.  Kind of like the bible.... 

If that doesnt get you thinking then im sorry. 

Buy it if you want but I trust my own personal experiences over a 100000,382943,432843 page book written by god knows who for who knows what purpose.  A suckers born every minute.

LOL good use of vocabulary.  I saw the world lilliputian and just about choked on my own spit.  Anyway, heres a strange false awakening I had a while back.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/index.php?topic=23300.msg197494#msg197494

Took me 3 weeks practicing twice a day.

Phasings takes alot of work but its worth every practice session.

Well thats phasing my friend........ text book style.

It actually is chicago.    sorry! 

OOOOO boy lol.  This brings back some really insane memories of my Salvia endevours.  It seems to impact people differently but I had 2 really unique experiences with it that I would like to share.  I think it is a very beneficial thing really.  Its short lasting, its mind opening and it doesnt give you after effects or side effects.

My first go at it was when I found it on the internet and purchased some 5x herbal extract.  It came in a tube of little flakes, they compress it and compound it and bake it and do various things to it to essentially pull out the active ingredient and bottle that.  They have  up to 25x (the last time I checked) and I wouldnt dare touch that!   

I loaded my pipe up with it and took a deep breath in preperation.  I lit it up and it hit quicker than a mongoose.  This stuff acts so fast its unbelievable.  Before I knew it I wanted to put the pipe down because I didnt want to drop it and break it but I didnt even have any concept of which hand held the lighter and which hand held the pipe so I just set them both down.  I felt like my consciousness went from my whole body to my head and I basically became a ball of consiousness focused in my third eye.  I could still feel my body but it was distant.  My legs came out and floated in the air like in water.  I fell back on my bed and exhaled (this all took place in a matter of seconds) and then it happened.  I was bombarded by a multicolored geometric light show for about 3 seconds and then I put my legs up on the bed and it appeared to fold up over me.  I began to travel down a tunnel with letters and numbers and colors all around me.  I glanced over at the TV and the movie I was watching suddenly hit me like a ton of bricks.  The exact scene... I had seen it before in a past life and this was a moment of reckoning I had waited for for many years.  This was a moment that was meant to be and planned since I transferred my soul to my body upon birth.  Things began to blur and suddenly it was all ending.  The bed rolled back down and I sat up.  I was drenched in sweat (happens every time I smoke the stuff) and the effects where totally gone.  Lasted about a minute.

The other mentionable instance was when I was at a friends house and I was smoking it with 2 other people.  I didnt have much left, probably about as much as I smoked in the above mentioned instance so we had to split it up.  They smoked theres and sort of exhaled, sat back, got glossy eyed and came out of it in about 30 seconds.  They didnt quite know how to describe it and handed me the pipe.  I packed it up and burned it down. 

Lets say you are sitting in a room.  When you are in the room your senses basically confine to the room.  You KNOW there is a whole world out there beyond the room but you dont FEEL it.  Well when I smoked that bowl of it I FELT the entire world that was around me.  The rooms walls seemed to disappear from my senses and I felt like I was sitting on a platform exposed to the entire world.  I felt like I could feel the entire universe with my senses, it felt SO huge.  Then it faded.

In conclusion I think it has its merits honestly.  If your guides dont think its right then so be it.  Its not a must by any means.  It has its uses and it does give interesting results.  Stick with your guides message and if in the future the event arises that your guides grant you permission for whatever reason dont feel shy about it.  Its a good experience in my book.

Im not sure if it was a nuke bomb, maybe just a really big explosion.  I was only like 1/4 to 1/2 a mile away and it didnt damage anything where I was standing, unless it was a really small nuke.  I will search on the net to see if I can find any pictures of where it was or something similar.



This is alot like what it looked like.  when I was seeing the 3 panoramic views the middle one with the smoke pillars looked alot like this.  There where houses or smaller buildings and then a clump of bigger buildings by water.  I remember vividly that the building obstructing my view of the smoke pillars was a big tall skyscraper, the type where the windows make it look like one big mirror.  It was at sunrise/dusk so it glinted eerily.  I started in the upper right corner facing the buildings and then when I was in human form I was about in the middle of the picture looking down the road toward the big buildings.

First im watching 3 panoramic views of a big city, one of them I can see 4 pillars of black smoke.  Then im standing in the street about 1000 feet from a big building, and 1000 feet behind that is the 4 pillars of smoke.  I am standing next to someone (guide?) and ask them if thats one or four explosions and then I see a flash brighter than the sun.  I first think it is the sun.  Im not in the street anymore.  I am watching the spot where I was just standing and cant see the building or the smoke anymore.  People start running through my vision, cars and busses get pushed into my vision.  I wake up.

Dont know what to think of this, it was extremely vivid and detailed.  Havent had an experience this clear in a very long time.  Hope nothing happens.  Everyone be careful.

Ha!  Brilliant!  That guide of yours really has a way of giving you baby steps.  You should relish this experience.  Could have been much worse my friend.  Have you had any contact with that guide since?  If not you should attempt to contact her again.

I get some good song ideas from dreams and AP's.  The other night a grueling and horrendous LD about a zombie pig apocalpyse.  I was in my living room  talking to my mom and suddenly she just turns around and is half pig and starts attacking me.  I killed her with a butcher knife and ran outside.  There where pigs and people everywhere, total mayhem.  I had to run throught the LD twice, it was almost like a video game.  I am writing a song about it right now.

good luck with that.  You cant do much but sit back and wait.  Seems you have a good natural ability to phase and enter situations that you wish to. continue your efforts and wait it out. 

Best of luck

knightlight

well....... its hard to say.  Usually these things are pretty clear cut.  Your experience sounds like a dream that went lucid AND you going to the RTZ in an projection and then realizing what your astral body was doing half way through.... Any way you dice it your on the right track and should have an actual projection any day now.  Keep it up.

Just for your info, the RTZ is not even close to a mirror copy of reality.  Things will be different, sometimes very different. 

well you dont really need to.... kind of depends on the situation.  I have had experiences where I could easily float through everything I saw and also had experiences where I couldnt even get through anything.  Normally you just open the door with your astral hand.  Sometimes under the right circumstances you can just open it with your mind.

looking forward to hearing your results.

well yeah!!!!    All you newbies questioning yourself.  Seriously...... how much convincing do you need?  That was most definitely an RTZ projection, and a very classic style one at that.  The RTZ is a very strange and fluctuating place as you experienced.  Keep up the good work.

well i can say from experience that there do seem to be energy centers in the body you can stimulate that correspond with the chakras listed in all books about such subject matter.  Its really up to you to decide.  I believe that the energy body and the nervous system are almost one in the same.  Research the nervous system of the human body as well as the energy body and the chakras.  Come to your own conclusion.

well first of all its only your second attempt...... some people have been trying for years without success.  For me it took 3 weeks practicing twice a day which is pretty fast. 

The experience you described is simply a symptom of getting into a deep trance and coming out of it quickly.  Its akin to sleeping for 5 minutes.  You didnt get anywhere near a full sleep cycle and your body was simply trying to wake up from the trance and was slow to do so.

Keep trying.

lol yes it is.  Its not necessarily going to be them (cant really know for sure....) but you can meet anyone.  There are no limits to consciousness.  You could meet anyone or do anything.

very true lucid learner. 

Gangsta: everything you have described so far is typical for someone who is getting used to projecting.  Even if it is easy to have OBE's its not easy to get used to having them.  The vibrations upon re-entry are a bit odd as I have only had vibrations while exiting so I cant help you there but maintaining control while OBE is very hard at first.  It takes your consciousness a while to get used to the idea of an obe.  I had the same problems and sort of still do but when I am OBE my mind goes "this is obe" and sort of switches to OBE mode and allows me to stay obe longer.  Its all about repeated experience.  Do yourself a favor and dont be angry when you loose control of the experience, its not worth it.  Just be happy you can have experiences easily and rest assured that your control will get better over time.

Whoa whoa whoa let me get this straight....  vinny testaverde is involved in this?  That bastard!  I knew he was no good.

Honestly I dont know what to say at all.  This is wacked out.  Either A: you can read just about everyones thoughts around you or B: youve lost it completely.  Either way I cant help you.