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If evil is characterized with fear, negativity, darkness, sadness, etc, then if I experience during OBEs ultimate love, beauty, harmony, light, magnificence and on top of that I get stronger and wiser (all characteristics of the creative source), your theory's equation can not be solved.

ANYTHING challenging that happens to us ALWAYS serves a purpose. You need to evaluate each challenge and think what could be the lesson for you behind it. It's not always easy to make that realization, but when you do and learn, believe me this type of challenge will not repeat itself. And yes, you have chosen to experience all that believe it or not. You are thinking now only through your very limiting perspective of the current personality of yours. Of course no one in their right mind LOL, would want anything bad to happen to them, but that is a human thinking. Even I, if I had a magic wand and with one wave can make this world perfect, I probably would, but that's why our higher spirits have removed that ability while experiencing lower realms, so that we don't remove the lessons we have set up. Our thoughts as humans are lead by instinct of survival, ego, etc, but that's ok. This is how we were meant to be, think and feel, for the purpose of learning.

That is very simple. Just THINK where do you want to be, what do you want to see, who do you want to see, or just general, make  request to be teleported to a crowded town. You can think of communicating with different types of entities, not just humans. That is most fun. Your thoughts and intention are you navigators. Use them.

Hey Bluefirephoenix,

What do you think about using objects during spells. Do they affect the energy flow in some ways, or they just assist to trick the mind to believe it will work. I think the belief is the element which brings the higher energy frequency to more dense one, corresponding with the vibratory rate of our world, so we can actually see it as a manifestation. Intent creates thought forms, yes, but if the conscious or subconscious belief is an opposite one, most likely that thought form will never become dense enough to enter the physical reality.
I have never tried spells or magic, I have always used my thoughts and beliefs to attract what I want, but never used objects, or went to a grave yard at midnight to do a ceremony LOL. Do you think all that spell work actually assist in a way in addition to our focus, thoughts and beliefs?

What do you think about Voodoo? I have heard so many stories, but horrific ones. They do use dolls to affect a person. Do you think the dolls play a role in the results?

Your thoughts are the main navigator of projection, so yes, you need to THINK and apply INTENT. You don't need to try to do anything  with physical like movements. Just imagine yourself standing next to your bed or the door for example and you will be teleported. If that does not happen, that means you are too awake. If you reach strong vibrations, don't wait, act quickly and apply an exit technique, otherwise you will completely wake yourself up and the process will be interrupted. Some people don't experience vibrations. I don't get them if I convert a dream into an AP, but if I do an early morning or an afternoon nap attempts then I experience at least some sort of inner motion, which "wakes my awareness up" upon drifting off to sleep or in the middle of a deep sleep. So, it could go either way for you, but I think if you want to succeed during meditation or trance, you need to imagine that you are some place else during the entire time. Imagine that you are walking, seeing, touching stuff, etc. Just laying there and trying to have your body go numb, but your brain is fully awake, wont do the trick. You need to let your self start drifting off to sleep while doing inner motion or visualization. Tons of people come here and ask the same question, why cant I project, then they describe doing meditation during the day. Well, again, they are too awake. You need to choose a time of the day when your body can fall asleep, but is not completely exhausted, where you can just pass out before having the chance to hold your attention on any techniques for at least 10 minutes. And don't forget affirmation beforehand. They carry a strong message to your awareness, and while you are asleep, your awareness will be awaken and ready to refocus.

Surrender to the problem or fight our way to thrive and become better
it is our eternal freedom at the end

Eternal freedom is already there for every spirit and all consciousness. The only prison you my experience is your own beliefs that if you don't win something you will not be free. I am not promoting passiveness or lack of care about the faith of our world. I am just in peace with the fact that there always will be conflicts and waves of wars and peace. The earth and this physical universe eventually will come to destruction. One of the reasons are the laws of physics here, not negative entities. And because physical mater does have beginning and end and transform from one form of energy to another. Another possibility is humans will destroy our planet. The truth is that it will end one day, but that does not mean some battle was lost. It is important to fight, yes absolutely, but we also need to accept and understand why certain things happen, especially when comes to global consciousness events. I want with all my heart to comfort all spirits experiencing pain. I want to make our planet a paradise. But I realize that it is not up to me alone. All consciousness here does not have the same ideas for the reasons I stated on my previous post. No matter how hard I focus, or 10 million people focus to heal this world, it will not be enough to dominate the rest of people with their own state of mind and destructive thoughts. The point to understand why certain things happen is to let them happen. I personally already live in my paradise. I see the world through my own state of mind, positivity and love. Because of that, my life is surrounded with loving people, laughter, joy and beauty. I do not see Satan, nor demons, nor have I encountered them in my 10 years of APing. I understand the world, and I help everyone who seeks my help, but sometimes I realize that I must let certain people experience the consequences of their actions in order to learn their lessons. Otherwise sooner or later, the bad things will happen under different circumstances and they will have to face them again. I can't learn it for them and transfer the knowledge. The same way, I can fight to eliminate as much negativity in this world as I can, but if the majority of people think and seek negative, then they need to experience the circumstances of their doing. If you are a teacher, would you do the homework for the students,  or will you let them study in order to learn? Would you fail those who don't want to learn and work hard, or will you fight for them and let them pass without them learning anything.
Don't get me wrong, when it comes to your personal challenges and battles, by all means fight with the greatest strength and intent you have. When comes to mass consciousness, you need to understand how it works and choose your battles wisely. One physical world ends, another begins. There are so many learning grounds. What is meant to happen will happen. Again, not promoting passiveness, just an understanding, which can give us peace and realization that no battle is ever lost. All experience is rewarded and we are all winners at the end just because of the value of the experience alone, no mater good or bad. You are looking at things trough a physical life's perspective, if one country wins a war, the other is the defeated one. I am not looking at these experiences like that at all. I see them as lessons learned from both sides, and both experiences add to the expansion of consciousness in a higher level.

Let me ask you a question. Do you think if there was no "bad" in this world, there will be lessons learned?

You see all consciousness that had chosen to enter temporary this world had designed and created all these challenges and conflicts in order to learn something out of it. This world is NOT our permanent residence. Spirits pop in and out of existence in these learning grounds all the time and everyone designs their lives before entering based on what they need to realize, understand, learn, etc. If you were to design a videogame and your own character, and if you wanted to learn how to ride a horse, would you create galloping in tough terrains, barriers to jump over, etc, in order to perfect that skill? Same with Earth and human characters. It was never meant to be all good of perfect. There will be no need of its existence if it was harmonious. That applies to all other planets and life forms in our cosmos as well, and all physical like other realities created with much limitation and slow moving energy, just so the participants can experience conflicts of various types in order to learn. I guess learning expands one's consciousness in a way, although we may not fully understand while limited in this human form.

And so, all entities, humans, aliens, etc.,  which appear to be negative are just spirits, playing roles in these realities to experience it and create certain challenges for other spirits who play the roles of the good guys, so that they can learn. Everyone extracts knowledge at the end, no matter what roles they play. In many so called incarnations roles get switched. If you are a good person now, I bet there are many personalities of yours that have the opposite attributes. All occurrences and interactions are agreed upon from all parties involved during the design of the "game".

Very true. I have experienced it myself. And continue to experience very frequently abundance of all types in which I believe. Sometimes it could take a long time though, but you can't loose the trust of the possibility. My motto is Nothing Is Impossible, therefore I am always open to all kinds of adventures and out of the ordinary occurrences, here and in the non-physical, and I notice constantly corresponding traits between my thoughts and the manifestation of events.

This interests me.  In some realities I am easily able to change and manifest things and in some I'm not. In the bedroom/house/backyard area, I have not been able to change anything.  I haven't experimented with this a ton, though, in those particular areas.  I've only tried maybe 5 times and when I got no results I assumed it was not a thought responsive environment.  It's always been in the back of my mind, though, that I failed due to 'doubt' because of books I read that take the position that some realms will not respond to thought.  Maybe I'll start a new thread and take a poll -who can change and manifest things everywhere (including their bedroom after a classic OBE  exit) and who can't...?

Hey soarin,

My comment was in general. However, as I said above "There are many other factors about the degree of energy manipulation of course" meaning that there are factors that could prevent you from manipulating energy besides your beliefs. But this is such an extensive topic, that I did not want to side track and load the thread with other info. So, I have experienced several times inability to change the environment, and my explanation (I am not sure if it's correct) is because I was exploring worlds established by a mass consciousness (many spirits ), thus individual spirits can't alter energy formations held by the mass agreements on how and what things should look like and be. I was at a world with many people going about their business and I was conversing with one of them. The world was very beautiful and everything looked very harmonious. Then I tried to change the look of a tall clock tower, and at that moment I was kicked out of that reality. I ended up in some fields outside of the town. I was actually surprised that happened, so it could not have been my thoughts or beliefs. That's my best explanation so far. If any one has an input, please share. There are many curious things happening during non physical experiences. I think none of us will be able to know for sure what the truth is, until we are connected to this physical reality through physical vehicles, because many limitations come from that connection. So, lets just continue to explore and not worry too much about small differences between various experiences. If I go to France and Italy on a vacation trip, it will still be called a vacation trip, no mater where I was. Same thing with non physical trips. Whether you are inside your room our outside your room, if you are non physical and are aware of this very fact, then whether you call it an AP or OBE, or a lucid dream, there is no difference. You are non physical.
Dreams on the other hand are too non physical experiences of your spirit, but the difference is that you are not aware and the experiences are spontaneous temporary matter manipulations lead by your sub consciousness. 

In the ep I can look at a tree till the face turn blue and wont go their on thought.

Why not? If you believe you can't, then your own thoughts will be the blocking element. This is what many people don't understand. I have never had problems altering the environment and teleporting myself whether I am in my room, or a higher frequency reality. That is because I believe I can. There are many other factors about the degree of energy manipulation of course, but in general your beliefs and intent are the driving forces. There is no such a law if you will that will prevent you from going anywhere or doing anything, but your beliefs.
Also, there is no difference between being non physically in your room astral environment, or someplace else. It's all a  non physical experience. Don't use too many labels, because they will only limit you.  I use categories to differentiate between significantly different occurrences, but overall try not to create subcategories for insignificant differences.

The most frequent vibe type I experience is a strong whooshing sound in my ears and inner shaking. It happens almost every time during an early morning technique, when the AP happens during sleep onset. I actually induce the vibes by imagining my bed either swaying or spinning. That is maybe the easiest technique upon falling asleep, because it does not require thinking, just inner motion sensation hold for a few minutes. That does not work during evening sleep onset. During evening sleep onset, I do visualization + motion and that results in a strong vibrational state sometimes during the night, but not upon sleep onset. I get woken up by stronger vibes after few hrs of sleep, and I am automatically in SP. But those vibes are more like a train running through you, very loud, sometimes gun shot sounds, strong buzzing sounds and strong inner shakes. For those who want to try, they need to go to bed about a half an hr before they get really sleepy, because otherwise if you wait until you are ready to pass out, you will fall asleep before you have a chance to start anything. For those who are starting with the evening visualization technique, they need to have patience because the initial AP achievement will take about three weeks(practice every night).

But I also wanted to add that vibes not always happen. Even for AP upon sleep onset, many times I just become aware as I am laying down that I have the "corridor" to AP, then I just think of a location and I find myself teleported so to speak in the astral environment. LDs also don't have vibes. They usually happen sometimes during the night.
I know you already know that Szaxx, but I just wanted to mention some additional details for the beginners who are reading this.

Who is to say that our own world doesn't have a wizarding world and J'K Rolling actually wrote these books based on a true story from within our own world. We as muggles would not know of course. So there, no one can prove that it does not exist. But even if not our universe, there are so many parallel universes, not astral, but physical, like ours and many duplicates on our universe, but with differences, different scenarios, different paths of development. Every scenario does exist somewhere in some world (with a heavy frequency like ours). Magic definitely is possible in our world, we just have not discovered and developed it in our line of reality. Maybe only certain people at this point may possess the ability to do magic (the type like in Harry Potter story). All I can say is, nothing is impossible, and there are no limits.
As far as astral worlds go, all worlds including the heavier (physical) frequencies are interconnected. Our physical world is supported by numerous higher frequency duplicate ones. In fact all creation that happens in the physical is created from astral matter. Our world can not exists without the higher ones, because it was created out of them. The higher frequencies CAN exist without the heavier ones, but not the other way around. So, each "world" has lower and higher vibratory rate duplicates, where things may appear different and with each more distant one, events appear more and more different, but many scenarios. Our spirits as well, have many parts, and exist in many dimensions and worlds simultaneously. So, everything is within everything and interconnected.
I got a little off topic, but I wanted to draw a bigger picture on the multiverse, so that we can realize that anything is possible and anything can change at anytime. The above theory is my own, according to my own logic, experience and understanding. I may be wrong,  but at at this point this is the best way I can paint the outlines of the multiverse.

Am curious though how dose it feel once you wake up again after eating in the astral?

surprisingly satisfied LOL

Ah, good question Lost Soul! I have eaten food in the astral and let me tell you, it is 100 times more delicious than in the physical world. I love chocolate, but I restrict sugar and carb intake here, because I can see visibly my cells rejuvenating, skin glowing, youthful appearance, and overall feeling very energetic and my brain gets really sharp as well. The downside of this lifestyle of eating here is that I deprive myself of experiencing the taste of certain foods that I like. So, often I would materialize in the astral a chocolate cake or something I wish to eat, and I enjoy every second of it. All senses are a lot more enhanced in the astral - more vibrant colors, clear sounds, clarity of awareness, and also the taste. I would suggest everyone to try it. It's pure fun.

Do you think it would be possible to become a habitant of these fictional fantasy realms when we die? When we rest after physical death, we could live part of our astral existence inhabiting the worlds of the stories we love. Personally, beginning a magical/astral education at Hogwarts, getting sorted into a house, making friends and going on adventures in the world of Harry Potter is something I'd love to do when I die. But I'd only want to do this if the friends I make in these fantasy realms are "real" like myself, and not just temporary thought forms. Of course, in the astral/afterlife, there is no time and I'll have eternity to do more than just attend Hogwarts and go on adventures. Maybe I could become Minister of Magic.

Absolutely, there are countless probable parallel realities, not only of the physical world but of the higher frequency worlds as well, so our spirits experience everything and anything at all levels. There is no limit. And yes, the habitants are real spirits. I think you can tell when you create an animated thought form which can act as a person. However, I think that spirits are created from the core of the Source and we as individual spirits can not create new spirits out of raw energy. Animated thought forms yes, but I think there is a difference in types of energy and consciousness. 

Hi Isador, welcome to the pulse. I am too a HUGE Harry Potter story fan and during projections I have been several times there, and let me tell you, the sense of adventure and excitement were off the charts. The first time I projected there was way before I read the Deathly Hallows part I, or before I had seen the movie. I had no idea the story would take such a dark turn. And usually we experience the astral according to our expectations, however, I did not intend to project there at all, I was just taken, and secondly, I found myself in a forest area with Harry and Hermione, I remember seeing a tent and we were planning on how to find something. There was heaviness in the air, a really dark feeling,  but at the same time I was sooooo thrilled to had ended up there, because I was totally aware that my physical body is asleep, and at the same time I had teleported into this fictional world. I felt a part of it and despite the darkness of that particular scene, I felt in a mids of a great adventure. The feeling was unbelievable. Then after a while when the movie came  -Deathly Hallows part 1 (I read the book after I saw the movie) and I saw them in the forest with the tent trying to figure out how to find the horcruxes, I was like OMG, what the hell LOL. I think my AP took place even before the author had written that part of the book.

So, to me many authors are able to connect consciously or subconsciously to other worlds, even through dreams if you will, or just thoughts about stories, which are drawn from the astral. Not necessarily needing to have a conscious AP in order to connect, but our spirits always travel, even now as we are physically oriented. It's just some people are able to become aware and receive this information as thoughts, just they are drawn from other worlds. This may be what we call imagination, but really we are perceiving other realities without being fully aware. Now, we can create as well a we use our thoughts. I think it can go either way. Each story may have a different origin, but when I experienced Narnia, I was not the one who created this temporary environment. I tried even changing it and I could not. That world was already stable and supported by the energies of its habitants.
The stories also may be created in present time by our authors, because we all possess the abilities to create new things and new worlds if you will. No one can know for sure, but the exciting thing is that they exist and can be visited.

I also believe that fairytales have also origins and these worlds exist. At some point maybe our worlds were at a slight merge, that's why we have legends about dragons, fairies, elves, etc. Maybe humans had become too physically oriented and had shut down those portals which may have existed in the distant past. All I can say is that nothing is impossible. But I don't like to think that all we experience is inside our head only and everything and everyone is just temporary thought forms, as some APers think. That would be a very depressing and lonely existence. If we get past the lower duplicate to our physical reality dimensions, we can enter the frequency of established worlds, which are fascinating, and communicate with other entities. That though takes practice and skills to really be able to get out of the lower astral environment. But when it's time to shed our physical bodies and we are completely unattached to this reality anymore, I think we gain a LOT more ability to travel without restrictions and experience amazing things.

  As soon as I fall asleep I get A horrible buzzing in my head and I am sucked so fast out of my body that I think I am going to go so far that I wont get back.  I was wondering if anyone has had this happen. 

That's funny, the same exact thing happened to me this morning. I woke up around 4 am, then after drinking some water I got awake and I wasn't going to pass out ride away, so I decided as I was falling back to sleep, to imagine my bed spinning and lifting up going through the roof. After I fell asleep, I was woken up in sleep paralysis, my ears were buzzing and I realized it was AP time. As I was aware I was laying in bed with my eyes closed, I imagined shooting up through the roof, and it happened. I shot so fast, gained vision during the flight up and saw that I was getting very high in the atmosphere and the lights from the streets were getting smaller and smaller. I freaked out a little, but the same second I thought flying back down and instantly I lowered myself to the ground. From there I just thought of a location I wanted to be and I got teleported so to speak. So, when you get too fast to a location that makes you uncomfortable, just use your thoughts and you will instantly get where your request to be. The most important thing to realize about AP is that thoughts are your navigator and they create things. Also you need to apply intent of what you want.

Hey Alvis, sending healing thoughts your way. I have one suggestion. Try it and believe it will work. Place your hand on the area that hurts. Then imagine light energy shooting from your fingers and covering the broken cells with this energy. Imagine the area heating up and the cells are being rejuvenated and repaired. You must apply the strongest intention you can produce and strongly believe. I had applied this technique several times and it had worked wonders for me. Because the truth is, we all possess energies which we can use in various ways, the only requirement for that energy to produce results is to believe. Belief is not something imaginary, it is in fact the creative force of everything. Without it, the energy is just static. Belief is what turns the raw energy into things. These things correspond to the type of belief the creator is holding.

Hey Equinox, have you read William Buhlman's books? I suggest to give the visualization/motion technique a try, or an early morning technique. Very rarely one can project from a meditative state. That's why I see so many new people coming to this board with the same problem. It is not as simple as getting relaxed and tingled to project. Otherwise projection would have been discovered by many and widely used by now. Feeling your body numb and experiencing mild tingles is not a sleep paralysis or the vibrational state. Your brain waves need to be at least theta, best in delta state. Your physical senses must be totally shut down, and that means you need to be asleep, or in a state of falling asleep. When I first started with the visualization/motion technique, it took me about three weeks to achieve AP. But I was doing the technique AS I was falling asleep. Not during the day, not during meditation. That did not work for me for a long time and I had it wrong. So, one night, in the middle of the night, I was awaken by a very loud noise inside my head, like a train running through me. Yes, that is the vibrational state. And my body was completely paralyzed. From that point, I was prepared from what I have read to expect. I did not waste time, imagined myself standing by the door, and there I was fully in the astral. But you have to understand that through these various techniques, while you are falling asleep, your awareness remains awake while your body and brain fall asleep, so it usually takes three to four weeks and you must be patient. But you need to be consistent and do this every night at the right time.
You can also do that if you briefly wake up during the night, then as you are falling back to sleep, start to imagining your bed as a swing and start swaying from side to side. Do this internal motion for just few minutes and in 80% of the time, I had achieved strong vibrations ride away. But this is because at that time of the night, your brain waves are rapidly going from theta to delta and at the same time you are keeping your awareness active my internal motion simulation.

Hi Kieran and welcome!
For me, my dreams are a direct replay of something that had held my attention during the day, either good or bad. For example if I watch a movie with volcano erupting, I will dream of such scenarios. For me personally my dreams are a temporary thought formation of my subconscious emotions triggered from my physical life. And sometimes, not even from my own physical life experiences, like the example of just watching a movie with intense emotions. That's why I don't pay much attention to my dreams. But for some people like yourself they may be prophetic or teach lessons. On the other hand, I have many APs, which are very different from dreams and during those explorations, I have no fears no matter what I encounter. They are 99% very pleasant, enjoyable and exciting, because my consciousness leads the experiences. Many times I ask questions related to my own life and receive answers.
And although dreams also take place in the astral, to me they are more symbolic and as I said instances of thought molding energy, surrounding your physical personality. Sometimes my dreams are very bizarre, then I just laugh when I wake up, what is going on in my sub consciousness LOL. That's why I am more focused on my APs.

But why come back at all? The world is a terrible place.

No pain, no gain! Believe it or not we all have created this reality and had chosen before entering what to experience according to our spiritual growth needs. And we have limited our access to the higher planes on purpose, so that the school environment is in full capacity for more effective learning. It may seem like we are not learning anything, but believe me, every experience good or bad adds to our knowledge. I am positive that once you experience the broader multiverse, you will change your mind and comprehend the bigger picture of existence.

The point he makes is that you, as an awareness in consciousness is that you don't hang around there forever... how long you stick around, however, is up in the air.
But for example, I wouldn't to run into, say, my grandfather who died 20 years ago and expect that to really be "him". 

I think that no events are ever erased from existence. So, it really comes down to what point in existence you focus your awareness. I disagree with Tom's theory on "data" and not the real personality. Definitely we can form out of thoughts some personalities, but the real ones still exist, somewhere in the pages of the Multiverse book. Time does not restrict us "when" (as a point) we can focus upon and interact. And again, this time life we are experiencing lets say 100 years, may be like a blink of an eye out there. That I don't know, but we cant judge the flow in the astral from our physical time laws and perspectives.

No matter who is wrong and who is right in this matter, the kind of protests going on are unacceptable. If you think you have an enemy, then go and fight the enemy and not innocent people and their property who have no involvement whatsoever.

I think that happens to everyone. I even have songs that bring negative emotions because my ex listened to them a lot. Other songs bring painful emotions, like "November Rain" when I went through a painful breakup in college. For me certain smells also take me places. For example my grandmother used to roast peppers a lot. Every time I smell peppers roasting, it instantly takes me to grandma's house and all the associated memories and emotions.

I strongly disagree with Tom Campbell's theory about reincarnation and loved ones' spirits. We do not reincarnate ride away and plus time is irrelevant in the higher frequency realities. Our spirits exist in many places simultaneously. During APs I often meet my sister, who is alive. But I encounter her spirit, which is focused there. And when spirits are connected, they find one another just by thinking about each other. Very often she remembers our encounters in form of dreams. So, I have evidence that it was her, and not some data.
Also, I meet my father often. He passed away eight years ago and this was the most devastated time of my life. We have a strong connection and when I meet him, I feel such an incredible happiness, that I know it is him. No one can convince me other way. One life time of reincarnation may seem like a blink of an eye to the spirit. In the astral the journey continues. The evolution of spirits takes place everywhere. It is not just physical reality and heaven. It's not so black and white. And again, time is just an illusion here. I am surprised Tom does not take that into consideration before he forms a theory. You can't just say uncle Sam is not there anymore because he died and reincarnated 10 years ago and he is a different personality now. There is no such a thing as THEN and NOW.

Go with your instincts Aaron. Do not believe everything you read.