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thedubdude,

I have been projecting over twenty years now and have verified w/o no shadow of a doubt that something does exist beyound. I was like you trying so hard, out on a mission blazing fire to have physical evidence to spiritual after life existance.

Never really got anywhere until I stopped caring and gave up on validations. Also, not to mention how my worldy views, caring, opening up and loving others made a diffence in change. In the last five years of statistc tracking, I have validated roughly 65 OBEs - either coidences, validation, sycronicity.. its all there in my journal spreadsheet.

You are more than welcome to visit my web site and compare notes and review the data presented.

Good luck,

Tvos

np... thats what it is there for..

tvos

I have sent you the confirmation id/pass to my site.

Hope all is well!

Dave

Hello Don....

Long time no chat.. tried looking you up a few times and emailing but realized that AS was done etc.. Sorry to hear that.

Yeah, I will have to check ut Vehram System.. even though it sounds quite similar to just using a alarm clock, setting at random times waking and falling back into sleep with the strong intentions of mind-body awareness with projecting. Still never a less, what ever works and you are comfy with it - stick with it. Also, remember it will take a lot of energy, patience, trial and error. Keep up the good work dude!

Jub Jub.. long time no chat either.. Been away from the forums for awhile. Been focusing on my book writing, radio interviews, obe experiments etc.. Still having the OBES every week w/o fail so still kicking..

Tvos

Honestly, everything is a gift from God. Everyone can project! I do must say if the sleep paralsys comes to you w/o effort than you are on the road to success, but just because you get the vibes doesn't mean there is a long road ahead.

The people that have difficulty in projecting really need to examine "why" I can't project. I posted a sticky on "Why can't I Project". Please read this and it might help!

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/why_cant_i_project_invisiblelight_book_reference_for_beginner_to_advance-t28923.0.html

Good Luck and keep up the good work!

Tvos

It has been reported during near death experiences of the blind that they are able to recognize shapes, see color and objects. Although, many of the cases I have studied and read about do find it difficult to express because of their physical condition.

If you take someone who is blind at birth then what they see is difficult to interpret. When a child goes blind at a younger age 3-5yrs they can remember better but will still struggle. Now, what is very interesting is that the blind NDE'rs report the same conditions, love, joy, completness, pure vivid color as being white.

This is where science needs to explore deeper - work with patients who are blind giving them the ability to project. Same with handicap people too..

We could get more accomplished than bickering who's right or wrong...

tvos

As I explained to you in the prv message, set yourself up for goals on projecting. work on one goal at a time. what this does is show you patience, commitment, determination and most importantly developes skill.

I find many times that if I am passive but still projecting, the experiences are not as fruitfull. But once I have a specific goal in mind, there is desire and passion!

Good Luck and hope this helps you and others!

Tvos

That makes sense especially in the context of projecting without even trying. I have read that people who project for a long periods of time get to this point because they change their energy.

Thanks for sharing and spreading the word and congrats on your success. I think this is some very important work you and others are doing. It will take some time for the earth population to catch up with people who already realize the potential here. People resist change by nature.

it's really knowing your body and getting use to the trance state, how to enter into it with trial and error. Energy is everything and the record keeping when starting out is a helpful tool. I wish that I had done this early in the begining (back in 1987) because I could have been more consistent than dynamic.

Good Luck!

Tvos

Not trying to be smart here but i doubt you slept 1 hour or even 4 hours a night many times. I assume you sleep between 7-8 hours most of the time. Wouldn't this obviously yield more projections during the 7-8 hours a night because you do it more often?

I'm sure I could explain it better if I was good at math, but I'm not. It's like if i was recording how many times people stoped me on the street and told me they liked my shirt. I wore a red shirt 100 times and got compliments 50 times. I wore a blue shirt once and got 1 compliment. So sure i got more compliments on the red shirt but in percentages i got more on the blue. (50% vs 100%)

No, you are not being dumb. When I created the spreadsheet I have to include 1 - 12 hours of sleep. No where does it state that I have slept one hour and projected. There were a few times that I slept 3 or 4 hours and experienced the OBE. Most of the OBEs occur between 7-8 hours of sleep. It also depends on what the person who does sleep is use to. If someone sleeps for two hours a night, their OBEs will be rare because the body needs that energy for the physical. What I have proved for myself was that with the hours of sleep needed in order to project, the higher the success rate showed at 7-8hrs needed.

It is not a mathmatical forumala, it is simple record keeping, consistency and being honest if you project or not. If I project three times in a day, I have recorded the times I projected, but also mark it in the column '1' for that day. The number will still be high because of the days that I do project.

I strongly sugguest you view my excel data file on my site for further indepth over-view. This information I posted was simple and direct to the point.

Good Luck,

Tvos

There seems to be some important data missing here. For example I see the 10 AM - 1 PM hour range you achieved more OBEs than any other hours but I don't see how many attempts were made at any given hour. I

I didn't publish the whole statistical spreadsheet based on this study, only gave a brief over-view of the times to make it easier. Anytime that I project for that given date/time the classification for dream to obe, false awakening, and wide awake induced OBE is recorded. So if I project at 10:00AM - 10:15am, had two wide awake OBEs and one false awakening that data is recorded.

About 60%-70% of the times the OBEs occur w/o even trying and if I do, the percentage number is lower.

Hope this helps - Please also view the data from my site for more info.

Thank You,

Tvos

Everyone is different and I do agree with what you stated.

I know when it was weeks after my mom's passing and that I made brief contact, I thought that I would keep trying. Took me roughly a good 1-2 months to have a full meaningfull wide awake induced OBE making contact with my mom. At the time during the experience it was joyeous, tears, happy and what she expressed in my questions to her.

Upon returning, it is the physical part that is the tough part. So after a good 4-5 visits with mom in the spiritual, I found that I needed to work on the physical in healing than just starting to connect with her in the spiritual. This is what I was talking about and I feel for people that are starting out with OBEs as a motivation is not healthy. Heal here first and then connect..

Tvos

Jub Jub,

Things are going good so far.. 2008 was a rollercoaster ride with my mom passing away and my wife/I becoming parents to three children through the foster care system.

I actually feared that my OBEs would diminish with having kids, well I was wrong and they have blossemed. A lot of the dedication is routine and systematic putting it into everyday. So this is why after so many years it has become second nature..

Tvos

Elbuscador and KI Aura,

Sorry to hear about your father and friend passing on.. Not a real good way to celebrate the new year... I lost my mom last March of 2008 and it is tough, I won't lie. Even after projecting so many times, I have mentioned this on radio shows that you need to heal first the physical before setting out and connecting to your loved in the spiritual.

I have had some beautiful experiences, educating, confirmed OBEs connecting with my mom. But I knew it was a temp band-aid patch and upon returning, it is tough and the wound is still open. Even though you KNOW that the loved one is in good hands and life does go on after physical transistion, still never a less I found myself needing a little more time to heal.

It isn't surprizing that many people that have experienced a current loss of family, friend, co-worker, animal that their attention is shifted and open for connection with the loved one. You would be astonished of the discussions of this.

Everyone's thoughts, energies, focus is on the person who had moved on and that connection of love is the bond for contact. It is the same with projecting, finding that connection to the trance state in order to change hats during separation.

Again, sorry to hear but don't be surprized that other family members will report contact with your father..

Tvos

nothing has been reported on the issue of OBE's and seizures... if this was the case, then it would be a way of life for the medical community, health books to illustrate any sort of danger.

i would google more of this on lucid dreams, out of body experiences and health risks..

remember, i have been doing this for 21 years and my health is perfect...

tvos

Hey Jub Jub,

How goes it these days? Been awhile!

Nice to see you still active.

Anything new in OBE land?

Tvos

thunderstorms do exist in the astral - i have been in tornado's, grey wispy smoked clouds, rain, hail, lightning, thunder.. you name it.

the coolest part about rain is feeling it pelt through your energy body.. just a incredible experience..

tvos

Iamhere2learn and LadySegesta,

Judging from your two posts, I would recommend that you follow the medical advice perscribed first for your health. Always comes your health first before experimentation.

Projecting and medicine should not affect having OBEs or not. Reason why I say this is because I have tried so many variations of experiments with alcohol, drugs (tylnol pm, sudafed) foods, caffine, execise, body positioning, crystals and it didn't change a thing, I still projected bottom line.

Please read my topic post: Why Can't I Project?

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/why_cant_i_project_invisiblelight_book_reference_for_beginner_to_advance-t28923.0.html

Remember that projecting is not a easy task, a one time deal and everything is perfection. It takes years of trial and error.

Good Luck!

Tvos

coffee does not change a thing, personally for me.. I am not a coffee drinker, but my wife is which has dragged me to starbucks many times.. after awhile, you grow custom to it.. anyday that I do get up, coffee is the last on my mind.

you just need to know how to tune in and feel how the trance state works. getting to know your body is very important and tracking...

tvos

It is ALWAYS good to experiment because you will never know the answer..

But honestly, I really liked Ann Varnes (Astral Voyage) web site and author the books she wrote on AP. Getting back to the premise of the subject, I done a lot of testing with sleep positions (n,s,e,w), food, exercise, pyramids, crystals, dunking my head under water open eyes, you name it... Like Stookie said, it all comes down to is will power and nothing more.

With the magnets and energy, it is possible. I know that there have been experiments performed with a Canadian professor/scientist Michael Persinger that subjects will wear a helmet labeled "The God Helmet" and are exposed to magnetic fields. Most of them about 80% state they have a feeling,prescence behind their physical bodies..

Enough said that there has been some real interesting experiments done in the past. But really it comes down to  you doing the work vs. listening to others. Make sure you do EVERYTHING in a safe environment and following all rules.

Tvos

CC,

Read my sticky topic: Why can't I project

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/why_cant_i_project_invisiblelight_book_reference_for_beginner_to_advance-t28923.0.html

It took me two months to have my first OBE.. After that it was trial and error, but also being patient, record keeping, education, and working towards efficiency.

This is not a fast food drive through where you can expect over night results. It is a lifetime of experiments, showing up EVERYDAY giving EVERYTHING to project. Consistency without giving up!

Good Luck,
tvos

tvos

Hi, tvos. So would I be able to go into one of these "states" just being sober, or would I have to go a long period without the plant before I begin to project (again)?

Also could you confirm that my childhood experiences were the result of my brain initiating astral travel without any of my knowledge on the subject? It would explain a lot... I mean I didn't think dreams could be that vivid, predictable, and unwaivering but that is how I explained and moved passed it.

anytime when you mix drugs with projecting you won't have the full effect. it takes a lot of concentration, energy, and awareness to sustain the experience. to really get a grasp and hold
of the experience. by doing drugs, it just acts as a smoke screen that handicapes. the last year I drank a little more than I normally do but i still projected but not up to par... you can go into the states being drunk, high but its not advised because you are missing out on the big picture..

when i was young and before I knew anything about projections, I had OBE experiences, not a lot but enough to dismiss as a dream... once i became aware of OBEs I realized and it made sense that those dreams were actually OBEs or False awakenings, so I wouldn't be surprized your experiences when you were younger are true.

tvos

[Drugs:]

Hello thehunter09.

Welcome to AP!

Here are a few FAQs to your questions taken from my FAQs (InvisibleLight)

Drugs:
Any kind of chemical that one consumes to alter their consciousness can produce a OBE. It takes great amount of energy to control, focus, and sustain the level of awareness when exiting the body and exploring the astral worlds. Drugs will just slow your reaction time, cloud your memory, and present inaccurate visions. Not also to mention that it affects your physical body which is not good for intake.

Breathing During the OBE
Sleep paralysis is the gateway to projecting. I know its difficult and scarry at times when you enter this state, but as you do this more, relax, and feel the energy/vibrations blow through it - deffinitely gets better over time.

As for the suffication I would get with the doctor and explain what is going on. I am not one to give medical advise but it could be sleep apena. I know that weight contributes to this as a factor among other things too.

For the blindness, when your in that state, feel, imagine yourself rolling around in circles spinning at high speeds. When your ready to launch, make that exit out of the body by just dropping to the floor or spinning out and away from the body. Your vision will transistion and adjust after a few seconds.

All of this seems like minutes but in actuality it is seconds. I have proven this by recording myself video, audio during many successful OBEs.

For more information, visit my web site: www.invisiblelight.us

Good Luck!

Tvos

CFTravler,

Interupted lack of sleep and returning from the OBE the majority of times I am not exhausted at all. Ready to go and project some more...

I have been able to put myself into the trance state under 10minutes and I have identified that my OBES are normally under 30mins after I have fallen asleep.

All of this is a matter of conditioning, exercise and training. Learning about your body, feeling along with imagination holding that awareness. Most of this came by trial and error but after awhile I figured out how to connect by luck.

Tvos

I am just another face in the crowd.. nothing different about me that is between you, I and the rest of the world.. we are all the same.. just depends on how far you really want to hit the home run with obe's..

tvos

I have been at it for the last 20+ years never had any problems.. Most of the time I am energized, feel great endeavors for the day. A year or so I projected in 23 times in the month of October 2006. That is almost everyday... No problems here..

tvos