Messages

Normally, when I arrive home from work I am up til 2am-4am then I head to sleep. When I do awaken, most of the experiences are in the later phases of sleep (9am-12pm). The OBE or Dream to OBE are my strongest successor's. After awhile, you eventually feel, understand, and sense the body being tired but the mind alert. It is all based on knowing your body and being passive but alert to project.

If i was to change jobs I would still project - just the numbers change based on my length of sleep. Lately, I have been having fun with my two children where there is interupted sleep which leads to a lot of false awakenings to projections..

hope this helps!

tvos

I agree.. but again that is what the "search" button is for.. not too many people use that these days.... If I was to put up a FAQ in the sections, there still would be the same questions or newer.

tvos

[Chapter 6. - Trial by Error]

AP Friends,

I have read and have had many discussions about the out-of-body experience and the public having difficulty to reproducing this event.  I thought it was time to bring to light and lift from the pages of my current book I am working on and share some insight.


Chapter 6. - Trial by Error


Why I am so successful at projecting is a mystery to me while other’s work equally hard? Is it really hard to pinpoint why I’m able to project weekly, maybe it’s because of passion, devotion, hard work and organization. It’s possible that when growing up I was diagnosed with being hyper active and having a learning disability. Could it have been my interest in the rock band Kiss, or having a imaginary companion dog named “Leroy Brown”. When I was five years old attending kindergarten school my teacher Mrs. Bailey noticed unusual behavior in me which lead my parents to have tests done on me. Hyperactive with a learning disability.

I started to think about this from many discussions and radio shows I have been interviewing with lately. "Why, Can't I Project"?

There are a lot of variables to consider:
Amount of Sleep
Exercise
Tracking Statistics
Intent & Objective, Goal Setting
Passion, Patience, Perseverance
Communicating Daily
Research, Discussion, Learning
Trial by Error


You have to look at projecting as if you are training for the Olympics everyday and show up! There are no short-cuts, competition, or fast food  drive thru, or thinking that you will arrive at perfection.

I am not trying to boast, but I can pull a OBE out of the hat almost every week w/o fail. Project 5-10 times per month and have experiences thousands of OBEs. Does this make me any better than the next person “No” – just thanking God for giving me this gift and being able to share.

From 2005 - 2008, I gave my time to track statistically by creating a excel spreadsheet based on the following catagories. I wanted to complete this three year study so that I can compare the days,months,years for analasys. In my three year study of tracking and statistics, I have projected 400 times. That equates to 1-2 projections weekly.


Food & Sleep Statistics

Food

What I found valuable to this research is food didn't matter if I projected or not. No starbucks frapacino or heinken beer made no difference in reaching enlightment, Well, maybe.. Meats, veggies, fruit, different ethenic meals again had no effect on projecting.

Sleep

This area of tracking is vital and has proven variable to success. Each sleep cycle I would track, researching if the amount of sleep mattered in achieving successful OBE. Yes, it does and here is the breakdown based on the hours of sleep needed the day before the OBE. As you see below, between 7hrs - 8hrs of sleep was recorded showing success rate at projecting. So now, I am able to see a better picture of the hours of sleep needed personally for me in yielding the OBE.

1 hour   0
2 hours   0
3 hours   1
4 hours   6
5 hours   7
6 hours   23
7 hours   50
8 hours   65
9 hours   27
10 hours   16
11 hours   3
12 hours   2


Projection Statistics

This is definitely the gold mine of tracking for determing the best days to project and times.

In this three year study 2005 - 2008, I have projected 352 times, broken down to four categories

Three Year Stats
Misc: 37
Dream to OBE: 128
False Awakening: 82
Conscious OBE: 156


I know now that my favorite technique in projecting is Conscious OBE or (Mind Awake, Body Asleep) method. Second, is Dream to OBE (Projecting from the dream into the OBE). False awakening (most FA's are from my return back from the Conscious OBE) and the fourth is Misc Experience (attempts within the dream in projecting).

This is the ticket for developing and focusing my energy on Conscious Projecting then subscribing to other methods, practices, etc. This is not to say the other methods are wrong, everyone is right for that person to tune to and craft to success. It just so happens that I am a conscious projecting and found out by error!

Now, the next breakdown is based on Day and Times of the when the OBE occurs:

Weekday Stats

Sunday   35
Monday   41
Tuesday   30
Wednesday  25
Thursday   24
Friday   42
Saturday   23

As you can see, Monday, Friday, and Sunday are my best days for projecting. Each time that I would project on a specific day, I would record that the OBE occurred. Later on, adding to that number specific to that day when the OBE occurred.

Now, the times that I project has yielded excellent results in determining when these OBEs occur. As you can see by the times listed below that between 9:00AM - 11:59AM is my range for when the setting is right for me to project. Since I work nights and normally don't goto bed until 2/3AM the schedule shows 6-7hrs of sleep is needed before my OBE. If I was to work the morning shift, the numbers would shift. The importance here that I will STRESS is the amount of sleep the day before and leading up to the OBE. Projecting when you are going to bed for most people will skip and go straight into rem unconscious sleep. So if you get the sleep needed, wake up a little
earlier to practice your favorite method, you will find results.

Time Stats

Time                  OBE
12:00 AM - 12:59 AM     1
1:00 AM - 1:59 AM           1
2:00 AM - 2:59 AM           7
3:00 AM - 3:59 AM           13
4:00 AM - 4:59 AM           6
5:00 AM - 5:59 AM           6
6:00 AM - 6:59 AM           11
7:00 AM - 7:59 AM           11
8:00 AM - 8:59 AM           26
9:00 AM - 9:59 AM           39
10:00 AM - 10:59 AM     40
11:00 AM - 11:59 AM     38
   
Total   199
   
Afternoon   
12:00 PM - 12:59 PM     30
1:00 PM - 1:59 PM        14
2:00 PM - 2:59 PM           5
3:00 PM - 3:59 PM           0
4:00 PM - 4:59 PM           3
5:00 PM - 5:59 PM           0
6:00 PM - 6:59 PM           0
7:00 PM - 7:59 PM           2
8:00 PM - 8:59 PM           2
9:00 PM - 9:59 PM           0
10:00 PM - 10:59 PM      0
11:00 PM - 11:59 PM      0


Validation Statistics

This part REALLY helped me out in the last three years of this research. From many discussions that I adhere to "show me, prove to me, how do you know it's real or not in your head - where is your proof"?.

From 2005 - 2008 I have conducted experiements, precognitive, coincedence, validations in the OBE. What I really enjoy about this section. Once you start having these experiences where you can match up to physical correlation there is no way to deny the legitimacy. What I can say about this firmly is "Yes, it is real and there is a wizard behind the curtain that we all call God in our native tongue's".

Not taking the time to track this data and breaking it up as validation, synchronicity, or coincidence is like throwing stones into the water, watching them sink. Or if you have a OBE which a validation occurs w/o testing or repeating, you or other people might think of it as "wishful thinking of projecting". But once you start seriously tracking, there will be no more of that wishful thinking. Can you prove this to the world? "No", but if you do the work yourself, take the time, and be fair as a reseacher/scientist and be honest with your record keeping, the only person you need to convience is "you". We all learn from experience, book reading theory is fine, but to really grab hold and understand, its living the experience vs. measuring it with closed mind.

In the three years, I have tracked 61 occurances that have validated the OBE:

Classification Type   Sub-Total
   
Validation   27
Synchronicity   15
Coincidence   19
   
Total   61


Real Life Example of Tracking

My last angelic encounter took place back in 2007 and been trying to make contact in many prior expereinces. Most of the experiences were short-lived but still I persisted at it. Just last week 07/2008 I was in a OBE where people were around me, we were out in a field by building on-looking trees surrounded by a neighborhood of houses. What caught my attention was a translucent, whispy greenish energy spanning a good 1/4mile. I looked towards the people I was with and asked "do I fly into this energy"?. 

The OBE "07-09-2008 - Jack.mp3" that was a angelic encounter was very interesting.

During the OBE, I saw a angel materialize from a green energy radating in the distance above treetops. The angel's mission was to deliever a baby to a woman who I was interacting with in this group.

When the angel was close, I decided to take flight into the air and grab hold of her asking "take me with you". The angel turned to me and said "Jack, I don't have time, I have many things to do and do not have time". The angel then shook me off her and I fell to the ground blacking out and physical conscious awakening I returned.

Days later, 07/11/2008 I was picking up my VW Beetle car from the dealer. As I was waiting for my car a salesmen passed me by with his phone sounding ringtone "Hit the Road Jack and Don't Come Back No More, No More". I instantly froze on the spot questioning "what are the odds" of this ringtone being a favorite among cell phone users and the coincendence to my experience with the angel telling me to hit the road Jack.

Now, if this experience was the first OBE / Validation I could easily dismiss this as coincendence, but in the last three years now this occurrs all the time. So now, do you see the separation of "wishful thinking" vs. tracking the coincedences that stem from the OBE!


Energy Exercise Statistics and Exercise Statistics

Honestly I have not pursued faithfully. Do I think they are important "yes", especially the exercise. Our bodies need the exercise, healthy life.  Energy work for me I am sure that it does help in the long run but I have not been avid about it then I should be.

The bottom line is trial and error, sticking with one technique for at least six months. If it does not yield results, move onto the next technique and repeat the same process. I am very lucky to find trance state (between awake/sleep) early in the game and able to tune. But remember, it has taken me years to *try* to perfect.

It doesn't matter if your novice or expert at projecting - you will have the good and bad days, just like everyone else (author, writer, musician, speaker) for pursuing OBE.

Personally for me, this was well worth the effort and energy to put together for seeing a clearer picture of how I can project and be successful at it. Now, I don't know if this will help the next person, because we are all different. If anything , I stress to track the dates,time,sleep, validations, and be consistent at it. Also, document or narrate to audio your experiences as well to review and see progress.


Good Luck!

Tvos

[Chapter 6. - Trial by Error]

AP Friends,

I have read and have had many discussions about the out-of-body experience and the public having difficulty to reproducing this event.  I thought it was time to bring to light and lift from the pages of my current book I am working on and share some insight.


Chapter 6. - Trial by Error


Why I am so successful at projecting is a mystery to me while other’s work equally hard? Is it really hard to pinpoint why I’m able to project weekly, maybe it’s because of passion, devotion, hard work and organization. It’s possible that when growing up I was diagnosed with being hyper active and having a learning disability. Could it have been my interest in the rock band Kiss, or having a imaginary companion dog named “Leroy Brown”. When I was five years old attending kindergarten school my teacher Mrs. Bailey noticed unusual behavior in me which lead my parents to have tests done on me. Hyperactive with a learning disability.

I started to think about this from many discussions and radio shows I have been interviewing with lately. "Why, Can't I Project"?

There are a lot of variables to consider:
Amount of Sleep
Exercise
Tracking Statistics
Intent & Objective, Goal Setting
Passion, Patience, Perseverance
Communicating Daily
Research, Discussion, Learning
Trial by Error


You have to look at projecting as if you are training for the Olympics everyday and show up! There are no short-cuts, competition, or fast food  drive thru, or thinking that you will arrive at perfection.

I am not trying to boast, but I can pull a OBE out of the hat almost every week w/o fail. Project 5-10 times per month and have experiences thousands of OBEs. Does this make me any better than the next person “No” – just thanking God for giving me this gift and being able to share.

From 2005 - 2008, I gave my time to track statistically by creating a excel spreadsheet based on the following catagories. I wanted to complete this three year study so that I can compare the days,months,years for analasys. In my three year study of tracking and statistics, I have projected 400 times. That equates to 1-2 projections weekly.


Food & Sleep Statistics

Food

What I found valuable to this research is food didn't matter if I projected or not. No starbucks frapacino or heinken beer made no difference in reaching enlightment, Well, maybe.. Meats, veggies, fruit, different ethenic meals again had no effect on projecting.

Sleep

This area of tracking is vital and has proven variable to success. Each sleep cycle I would track, researching if the amount of sleep mattered in achieving successful OBE. Yes, it does and here is the breakdown based on the hours of sleep needed the day before the OBE. As you see below, between 7hrs - 8hrs of sleep was recorded showing success rate at projecting. So now, I am able to see a better picture of the hours of sleep needed personally for me in yielding the OBE.

1 hour   0
2 hours   0
3 hours   1
4 hours   6
5 hours   7
6 hours   23
7 hours   50
8 hours   65
9 hours   27
10 hours   16
11 hours   3
12 hours   2


Projection Statistics

This is definitely the gold mine of tracking for determing the best days to project and times.

In this three year study 2005 - 2008, I have projected 352 times, broken down to four categories

Three Year Stats
Misc: 37
Dream to OBE: 128
False Awakening: 82
Conscious OBE: 156


I know now that my favorite technique in projecting is Conscious OBE or (Mind Awake, Body Asleep) method. Second, is Dream to OBE (Projecting from the dream into the OBE). False awakening (most FA's are from my return back from the Conscious OBE) and the fourth is Misc Experience (attempts within the dream in projecting).

This is the ticket for developing and focusing my energy on Conscious Projecting then subscribing to other methods, practices, etc. This is not to say the other methods are wrong, everyone is right for that person to tune to and craft to success. It just so happens that I am a conscious projecting and found out by error!

Now, the next breakdown is based on Day and Times of the when the OBE occurs:

Weekday Stats

Sunday   35
Monday   41
Tuesday   30
Wednesday  25
Thursday   24
Friday   42
Saturday   23

As you can see, Monday, Friday, and Sunday are my best days for projecting. Each time that I would project on a specific day, I would record that the OBE occurred. Later on, adding to that number specific to that day when the OBE occurred.

Now, the times that I project has yielded excellent results in determining when these OBEs occur. As you can see by the times listed below that between 9:00AM - 11:59AM is my range for when the setting is right for me to project. Since I work nights and normally don't goto bed until 2/3AM the schedule shows 6-7hrs of sleep is needed before my OBE. If I was to work the morning shift, the numbers would shift. The importance here that I will STRESS is the amount of sleep the day before and leading up to the OBE. Projecting when you are going to bed for most people will skip and go straight into rem unconscious sleep. So if you get the sleep needed, wake up a little
earlier to practice your favorite method, you will find results.

Time Stats

Time                  OBE
12:00 AM - 12:59 AM     1
1:00 AM - 1:59 AM           1
2:00 AM - 2:59 AM           7
3:00 AM - 3:59 AM           13
4:00 AM - 4:59 AM           6
5:00 AM - 5:59 AM           6
6:00 AM - 6:59 AM           11
7:00 AM - 7:59 AM           11
8:00 AM - 8:59 AM           26
9:00 AM - 9:59 AM           39
10:00 AM - 10:59 AM     40
11:00 AM - 11:59 AM     38
   
Total   199
   
Afternoon   
12:00 PM - 12:59 PM     30
1:00 PM - 1:59 PM        14
2:00 PM - 2:59 PM           5
3:00 PM - 3:59 PM           0
4:00 PM - 4:59 PM           3
5:00 PM - 5:59 PM           0
6:00 PM - 6:59 PM           0
7:00 PM - 7:59 PM           2
8:00 PM - 8:59 PM           2
9:00 PM - 9:59 PM           0
10:00 PM - 10:59 PM      0
11:00 PM - 11:59 PM      0


Validation Statistics

This part REALLY helped me out in the last three years of this research. From many discussions that I adhere to "show me, prove to me, how do you know it's real or not in your head - where is your proof"?.

From 2005 - 2008 I have conducted experiements, precognitive, coincedence, validations in the OBE. What I really enjoy about this section. Once you start having these experiences where you can match up to physical correlation there is no way to deny the legitimacy. What I can say about this firmly is "Yes, it is real and there is a wizard behind the curtain that we all call God in our native tongue's".

Not taking the time to track this data and breaking it up as validation, synchronicity, or coincidence is like throwing stones into the water, watching them sink. Or if you have a OBE which a validation occurs w/o testing or repeating, you or other people might think of it as "wishful thinking of projecting". But once you start seriously tracking, there will be no more of that wishful thinking. Can you prove this to the world? "No", but if you do the work yourself, take the time, and be fair as a reseacher/scientist and be honest with your record keeping, the only person you need to convience is "you". We all learn from experience, book reading theory is fine, but to really grab hold and understand, its living the experience vs. measuring it with closed mind.

In the three years, I have tracked 61 occurances that have validated the OBE:

Classification Type   Sub-Total
   
Validation   27
Synchronicity   15
Coincidence   19
   
Total   61


Real Life Example of Tracking

My last angelic encounter took place back in 2007 and been trying to make contact in many prior expereinces. Most of the experiences were short-lived but still I persisted at it. Just last week 07/2008 I was in a OBE where people were around me, we were out in a field by building on-looking trees surrounded by a neighborhood of houses. What caught my attention was a translucent, whispy greenish energy spanning a good 1/4mile. I looked towards the people I was with and asked "do I fly into this energy"?. 

The OBE "07-09-2008 - Jack.mp3" that was a angelic encounter was very interesting.

During the OBE, I saw a angel materialize from a green energy radating in the distance above treetops. The angel's mission was to deliever a baby to a woman who I was interacting with in this group.

When the angel was close, I decided to take flight into the air and grab hold of her asking "take me with you". The angel turned to me and said "Jack, I don't have time, I have many things to do and do not have time". The angel then shook me off her and I fell to the ground blacking out and physical conscious awakening I returned.

Days later, 07/11/2008 I was picking up my VW Beetle car from the dealer. As I was waiting for my car a salesmen passed me by with his phone sounding ringtone "Hit the Road Jack and Don't Come Back No More, No More". I instantly froze on the spot questioning "what are the odds" of this ringtone being a favorite among cell phone users and the coincendence to my experience with the angel telling me to hit the road Jack.

Now, if this experience was the first OBE / Validation I could easily dismiss this as coincendence, but in the last three years now this occurrs all the time. So now, do you see the separation of "wishful thinking" vs. tracking the coincedences that stem from the OBE!


Energy Exercise Statistics and Exercise Statistics

Honestly I have not pursued faithfully. Do I think they are important "yes", especially the exercise. Our bodies need the exercise, healthy life.  Energy work for me I am sure that it does help in the long run but I have not been avid about it then I should be.

The bottom line is trial and error, sticking with one technique for at least six months. If it does not yield results, move onto the next technique and repeat the same process. I am very lucky to find trance state (between awake/sleep) early in the game and able to tune. But remember, it has taken me years to *try* to perfect.

It doesn't matter if your novice or expert at projecting - you will have the good and bad days, just like everyone else (author, writer, musician, speaker) for pursuing OBE.

Personally for me, this was well worth the effort and energy to put together for seeing a clearer picture of how I can project and be successful at it. Now, I don't know if this will help the next person, because we are all different. If anything , I stress to track the dates,time,sleep, validations, and be consistent at it. Also, document or narrate to audio your experiences as well to review and see progress.


Good Luck!

Tvos

[Chapter 6. - Trial by Error]

AP Friends,

I have read and have had many discussions about the out-of-body experience and the public having difficulty to reproducing this event.  I thought it was time to bring to light and lift from the pages of my current book I am working on and share some insight.


Chapter 6. - Trial by Error


Why I am so successful at projecting is a mystery to me while other’s work equally hard? Is it really hard to pinpoint why I’m able to project weekly, maybe it’s because of passion, devotion, hard work and organization. It’s possible that when growing up I was diagnosed with being hyper active and having a learning disability. Could it have been my interest in the rock band Kiss, or having a imaginary companion dog named “Leroy Brown”. When I was five years old attending kindergarten school my teacher Mrs. Bailey noticed unusual behavior in me which lead my parents to have tests done on me. Hyperactive with a learning disability.

I started to think about this from many discussions and radio shows I have been interviewing with lately. "Why, Can't I Project"?

There are a lot of variables to consider:
Amount of Sleep
Exercise
Tracking Statistics
Intent & Objective, Goal Setting
Passion, Patience, Perseverance
Communicating Daily
Research, Discussion, Learning
Trial by Error


You have to look at projecting as if you are training for the Olympics everyday and show up! There are no short-cuts, competition, or fast food  drive thru, or thinking that you will arrive at perfection.

I am not trying to boast, but I can pull a OBE out of the hat almost every week w/o fail. Project 5-10 times per month and have experiences thousands of OBEs. Does this make me any better than the next person “No” – just thanking God for giving me this gift and being able to share.

From 2005 - 2008, I gave my time to track statistically by creating a excel spreadsheet based on the following catagories. I wanted to complete this three year study so that I can compare the days,months,years for analasys. In my three year study of tracking and statistics, I have projected 400 times. That equates to 1-2 projections weekly.


Food & Sleep Statistics

Food

What I found valuable to this research is food didn't matter if I projected or not. No starbucks frapacino or heinken beer made no difference in reaching enlightment, Well, maybe.. Meats, veggies, fruit, different ethenic meals again had no effect on projecting.

Sleep

This area of tracking is vital and has proven variable to success. Each sleep cycle I would track, researching if the amount of sleep mattered in achieving successful OBE. Yes, it does and here is the breakdown based on the hours of sleep needed the day before the OBE. As you see below, between 7hrs - 8hrs of sleep was recorded showing success rate at projecting. So now, I am able to see a better picture of the hours of sleep needed personally for me in yielding the OBE.

1 hour   0
2 hours   0
3 hours   1
4 hours   6
5 hours   7
6 hours   23
7 hours   50
8 hours   65
9 hours   27
10 hours   16
11 hours   3
12 hours   2


Projection Statistics

This is definitely the gold mine of tracking for determing the best days to project and times.

In this three year study 2005 - 2008, I have projected 352 times, broken down to four categories

Three Year Stats
Misc: 37
Dream to OBE: 128
False Awakening: 82
Conscious OBE: 156


I know now that my favorite technique in projecting is Conscious OBE or (Mind Awake, Body Asleep) method. Second, is Dream to OBE (Projecting from the dream into the OBE). False awakening (most FA's are from my return back from the Conscious OBE) and the fourth is Misc Experience (attempts within the dream in projecting).

This is the ticket for developing and focusing my energy on Conscious Projecting then subscribing to other methods, practices, etc. This is not to say the other methods are wrong, everyone is right for that person to tune to and craft to success. It just so happens that I am a conscious projecting and found out by error!

Now, the next breakdown is based on Day and Times of the when the OBE occurs:

Weekday Stats

Sunday   35
Monday   41
Tuesday   30
Wednesday  25
Thursday   24
Friday   42
Saturday   23

As you can see, Monday, Friday, and Sunday are my best days for projecting. Each time that I would project on a specific day, I would record that the OBE occurred. Later on, adding to that number specific to that day when the OBE occurred.

Now, the times that I project has yielded excellent results in determining when these OBEs occur. As you can see by the times listed below that between 9:00AM - 11:59AM is my range for when the setting is right for me to project. Since I work nights and normally don't goto bed until 2/3AM the schedule shows 6-7hrs of sleep is needed before my OBE. If I was to work the morning shift, the numbers would shift. The importance here that I will STRESS is the amount of sleep the day before and leading up to the OBE. Projecting when you are going to bed for most people will skip and go straight into rem unconscious sleep. So if you get the sleep needed, wake up a little
earlier to practice your favorite method, you will find results.

Time Stats

Time                  OBE
12:00 AM - 12:59 AM     1
1:00 AM - 1:59 AM           1
2:00 AM - 2:59 AM           7
3:00 AM - 3:59 AM           13
4:00 AM - 4:59 AM           6
5:00 AM - 5:59 AM           6
6:00 AM - 6:59 AM           11
7:00 AM - 7:59 AM           11
8:00 AM - 8:59 AM           26
9:00 AM - 9:59 AM           39
10:00 AM - 10:59 AM     40
11:00 AM - 11:59 AM     38
   
Total   199
   
Afternoon   
12:00 PM - 12:59 PM     30
1:00 PM - 1:59 PM        14
2:00 PM - 2:59 PM           5
3:00 PM - 3:59 PM           0
4:00 PM - 4:59 PM           3
5:00 PM - 5:59 PM           0
6:00 PM - 6:59 PM           0
7:00 PM - 7:59 PM           2
8:00 PM - 8:59 PM           2
9:00 PM - 9:59 PM           0
10:00 PM - 10:59 PM      0
11:00 PM - 11:59 PM      0


Validation Statistics

This part REALLY helped me out in the last three years of this research. From many discussions that I adhere to "show me, prove to me, how do you know it's real or not in your head - where is your proof"?.

From 2005 - 2008 I have conducted experiements, precognitive, coincedence, validations in the OBE. What I really enjoy about this section. Once you start having these experiences where you can match up to physical correlation there is no way to deny the legitimacy. What I can say about this firmly is "Yes, it is real and there is a wizard behind the curtain that we all call God in our native tongue's".

Not taking the time to track this data and breaking it up as validation, synchronicity, or coincidence is like throwing stones into the water, watching them sink. Or if you have a OBE which a validation occurs w/o testing or repeating, you or other people might think of it as "wishful thinking of projecting". But once you start seriously tracking, there will be no more of that wishful thinking. Can you prove this to the world? "No", but if you do the work yourself, take the time, and be fair as a reseacher/scientist and be honest with your record keeping, the only person you need to convience is "you". We all learn from experience, book reading theory is fine, but to really grab hold and understand, its living the experience vs. measuring it with closed mind.

In the three years, I have tracked 61 occurances that have validated the OBE:

Classification Type   Sub-Total
   
Validation   27
Synchronicity   15
Coincidence   19
   
Total   61


Real Life Example of Tracking

My last angelic encounter took place back in 2007 and been trying to make contact in many prior expereinces. Most of the experiences were short-lived but still I persisted at it. Just last week 07/2008 I was in a OBE where people were around me, we were out in a field by building on-looking trees surrounded by a neighborhood of houses. What caught my attention was a translucent, whispy greenish energy spanning a good 1/4mile. I looked towards the people I was with and asked "do I fly into this energy"?. 

The OBE "07-09-2008 - Jack.mp3" that was a angelic encounter was very interesting.

During the OBE, I saw a angel materialize from a green energy radating in the distance above treetops. The angel's mission was to deliever a baby to a woman who I was interacting with in this group.

When the angel was close, I decided to take flight into the air and grab hold of her asking "take me with you". The angel turned to me and said "Jack, I don't have time, I have many things to do and do not have time". The angel then shook me off her and I fell to the ground blacking out and physical conscious awakening I returned.

Days later, 07/11/2008 I was picking up my VW Beetle car from the dealer. As I was waiting for my car a salesmen passed me by with his phone sounding ringtone "Hit the Road Jack and Don't Come Back No More, No More". I instantly froze on the spot questioning "what are the odds" of this ringtone being a favorite among cell phone users and the coincendence to my experience with the angel telling me to hit the road Jack.

Now, if this experience was the first OBE / Validation I could easily dismiss this as coincendence, but in the last three years now this occurrs all the time. So now, do you see the separation of "wishful thinking" vs. tracking the coincedences that stem from the OBE!


Energy Exercise Statistics and Exercise Statistics

Honestly I have not pursued faithfully. Do I think they are important "yes", especially the exercise. Our bodies need the exercise, healthy life.  Energy work for me I am sure that it does help in the long run but I have not been avid about it then I should be.

The bottom line is trial and error, sticking with one technique for at least six months. If it does not yield results, move onto the next technique and repeat the same process. I am very lucky to find trance state (between awake/sleep) early in the game and able to tune. But remember, it has taken me years to *try* to perfect.

It doesn't matter if your novice or expert at projecting - you will have the good and bad days, just like everyone else (author, writer, musician, speaker) for pursuing OBE.

Personally for me, this was well worth the effort and energy to put together for seeing a clearer picture of how I can project and be successful at it. Now, I don't know if this will help the next person, because we are all different. If anything , I stress to track the dates,time,sleep, validations, and be consistent at it. Also, document or narrate to audio your experiences as well to review and see progress.


Good Luck!

Tvos

I am going to put a sticky perm topic for people having problems projecting as a point of reference. This is a section that I am working on and writing for "InvisibleLight" book currently being developed.

Hope this helps.

Tvos

marilyn manson, metallica, judas priest, to name a few for projecting...

seriously, it doesn't matter what you listen too but it is best to be in a calm, relaxing environment.

tvos

AP is a hallucination? Or that we want it so bad that our brain allows it? Or do you believe we actually travel to a dimension that has always existed?

definitely not a hallucination.. the more you project, record, verify, conduct your own experiments, read near death experiences there is something definitely there! i agree about the brain intruding but when someone is dead for minutes, half hour, or longer and they return... explain their NDE/OBE consistent with other experiencer's.. you can't easily dismiss as a facade..

tvos

read these experiences that I have vaidated the OBE to physical correation:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/date_october_22_2007_the_bravest_face_validation-t26964.0.html

more can be found at my site: www.invisiblelight.us

tvos

you can read/listen to all my journal entries at my web site: www.invisiblelight.us

it will take about 60 + hours to review.. plus the radio shows, interviews, etc.

enjoy,

tvos

once your in that state, feel and imagine yourself just rolling off the bed or floating away from the body. whatever you feel that will help you exit, the vibrational state is the launchpad to projecting. it will take some time to develope but once you get the knack it will become second nature.

tvos

if its hurting, then try another technique... AP shouldn't be painful or harmful at all.

vibrations can definitely catch you offguard and be unpleasant but never life threatining or painful.

remember, when you enter the trance state it's a process of awakening up into it, not drifting into. you have to let go and allow the physical body fall asleep and then allow your consciousness return to the trance state.

tvos

This has been a topic already discussed many times in the past. Please use the search history for previous topic discussions.

I will offer my .2 from my FAQs from my web site on drugs:


•   Do you take drugs, medication, or drink to produce the OBE?
No! – Any kind of chemical that one consumes to alter ones consciousness can interfere with having an OBE. It takes a great amount of energy to control, focus, and sustain the level of awareness required when exiting the body and exploring the astral worlds. 

Drugs will just slow your reaction time, cloud your memory, and present inaccurate visions. It is also noteworthy to mention that it affects your physical body, which is not good for intake.


Can you recieve visions, OBEs by smoking pot "yes" but you are not at your full strength and mental capacity to really focus on your goal, objective with the energy it takes to control the obe.

I know from experience and have tested this and being sober is way better than unfocused.

tvos

I can understand that feeling / emotion. The closer you are to your physical body, you will feel that split and register both bodies at the same time. I remember in many experiences that I can rest next to the physical body, touch my face, arms, chest with my spirit body and have dual sensations at the same time... The farther you move away from you distant yourself...,

Tvos

how close have you been to projecting and feeling the heart beat physical during?

tvos

Kaos,

I have already done this experiement roughly five times where I have recorded my heart rate, breathing during the OBE. What I have noticed is that the heart tempo does slow down along with breathing...

You can also view my web site with the data presented...I urge you and everyone else to do their own experiments too.

www.invisiblelight.us

Thank You,

Tvos

yes, they can sense it.. i have done tests with my three scottish terrier dogs and have had good success.. this information is also available on my web site.

enjoy,

tvos
www.invisiblelight.us

have her check out my web site and its FAQs... I could understand the interpretation as the cat being the devil due to this event, being scarry as it is.. but is far from actual truth and fact.

it is like anything in life.. you experience something for the first time, don't know how to handle it which easily can be interpreted as evil. you seek advice from others better understand what happened vs. scratching it off and dismissing as "devil".

thank you,

tvos
www.invisiblelight.us

your not condescending, I don't remember everyone that visit my site, nor their nicknames.. just too many people to keep up with and I am always repeating the importance of tracking...

I wish more people would explore these avenue's and start tracking. To me it makes common sense!

Can you explain more indetail about bio-manipulation enhancements?

Keep up the good work.

Tvos

AT,

Are you willing to pay the price for being able to project weekly?  Tracking is a investment and it you have to show up everyday as it is the olympics.

Read my article on tracking:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/blankets-t28718.0.html

Read towards the thread.

Tvos

my last OBE that I recorded with a three video camera setup, audio recording my heart beat and breathing.. should have it released sometime in the next month on my site.

what I found is that in these videos I record and upon returning back to the body and then awakening, you can see that I am clearly in a trance state which I shake my head back/fourth.. it does not look like a typical rem, peaceful awakening from a dream.

rather than playing guess games why don't you start recording your times and start tracking.. i just did a 3yr study and know exactly where I am at with projecting.

tvos

13,

Thanks... you actually reminded me of something that I have been wanting to post on my web site for a very long time. I will be adding this to the stats section of my web site for people to review of my findings.

People can't take everthing 100% on faith that the first OBE means "proof" of life and death. You really have to take time, document, and track results. Also, documenting the consistencies during the experience time again then the proof starts to open up.

Take Care,

Tvos

[Here is some data here for you to review since you missed in the AP board and on my site:http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/why_cant_i_project_a_experienced_perspecitive-t28110.0.html;msg231391#msg231391]

What I am asking you about is your comment HERE ---> (...i just recently finished up a three year study and found theonly thing that matters is the amount of sleep, specific days of the week, and the morning hours of the OBE to occur.)

Here is some data here for you to review since you missed in the AP board and on my site:

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_chat/why_cant_i_project_a_experienced_perspecitive-t28110.0.html;msg231391#msg231391


Where on your site is the data you have compiled from this three year study? Or is the data strewn across alot of articles on your site. Its not that I am lazy or anything its just that I am ONLY interested in your data you have found from this study. I do not want to have to sift through 15 different articles just to find data thats only pertinent to my question.

It's located in the statistic section. If you would have read the main web page and statistical section you would have realized this is where the data resides. Sometimes we have to do a reading to get more information. I understand you have been at this for 13yrs plus, so I encourage you to start tracking your own progress. .

Please also listen to my radio interviews - especially Kevin Smith Show, and Tell Me Your Story
These shows were really good and dived deep into statistics, validations, etc.

About Copyright - I don't charge for entrance into my web site, all my material is for research and study that I share and I welcome anyone. I also have to protect my work from audio, video, data which is why it is copyright by law. Last, if you are working with the media, publisher's, radio interviews copyright is important. Eventually, my web site will be media interactive that coincedes with the book I am working on. Both will play off one another. For more information, you can view the copyright section of my web site.

tvos

[--most of this is preference and for those that are truly interested in the site, will want access to review the material. also, by copyright law my site material is protected by law. especially for the book I am working on.]

why is it you require registration just to have your journals viewed?

--most of this is preference and for those that are truly interested in the site, will want access to review the material. also, by copyright law my site material is protected by law. especially for the book I am working on.

Do you have a direct link to your findings with the sleep study if not I can just look for it but your vague response to my question is leaving me having to search through your site to locate it. The site seems a bit difficult to navigate also. Any help finding the page I am looking for would be great! Thanks in advance.

--if you read each section and what each part is about you would understand where the data resides. i am trying to make the site easier from what it was before, but for now this has been on-line for over two years, i recieve roughly 2,000 + visitors monthly and no problems with navigation. I am always up for suggestions to improve.

Start in the OBE journals FAQs section and then progress onto the audio/video of my radio interviews, tests, and experiments.

I encourage everyone that works with projection to do their sleep studies, find the the difference between sleep, food, exercise, and difference between OBE,False Awakening, Dream to OBE, and Misc. I have said this many times in radio interviews that to have a "clearer" picture you have to do the work. By myself doing this work, I know the days that I will project, times to occur, and how to manipulate the trance state better.

I project 1-2 per week w/o fail and am successful at it because I did the work. No one will do it for you, only yourself!

Good Luck and enjoy the site!

Tvos

www.invisiblelight.us

tvos