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Also i work shift work in a steel mill on the furnace. Basically we create a lightning storm inside of a steel bucket and turn cars and junk metal into lava! I like the job but it is extremely physical at times and the heat is overwhelming working near it. So my meditation and projection practice is after work....which from what i've read is most difficult and success rate for projection is low especially for a newbie like myself. But I haven't gotten frustrated with it and really enjoy each session even without success and I figure that even though the chances are slim, if i'm able to clear my head and deeply relax after a twelve hour shift here and get some of the symptoms of projection then after awhile, trying it on my days off when i first wake up should come easier. Given the time since i started (about a month ago tops) i find my progress, focus, and skill level increasing far more than what I had conceived prior, not to mention the constant growing of positivity and shedding of the negative I've gained thus far is personally very impressive!

I've yet to define my method for meditation but i'll try and describe what I do at least and I've only just recently started to seriously meditate which is daily after work and at least twice when i'm off of work. Basically what I do is get comfortable, usually in my recliner, close my eyes and just breathe deeply and slowly for a minute or two. While I'm focusing on my breathing I'm imagining with each breath drawn that I'm drawing blue light from my feet to my head and each exhale from head to feet. I continue that until I feel very deeply relaxed then the pulsation feeling of the light continues basically on it's own and i just find any focal point behind my eyes. Usually a verrry tiny speck of light I find and then i just try and focus on it and usually get bursts of light and wavy dark colors and then randomly it may be faces that appear in full color or in black and white. Recently I had one of this absolutely gorgeous woman appear and smile at me and then fade away. Sometimes I'll get a tunnel vision type thing and sometimes there's a drak small figure jogging down it. For the most part these things are completely and utterly random and there are too many to list. Sometimes I get the vibes from it and usually, lately, i've had my focus brought tothem and they go away, kind of disappointing but i'm still learning how to control my focus and fears etc. also I've tried so far to not do very much specific research into meditation techniques or chakras etc just so I can gauge my progress without much outside influence. A part of me feels I need to seriously research how to go deeper but for now i'm going to let this cultuvate itself until I feel i HAVE to do something different. That being said, no concious AP as of yet but plenty of strange visions, faces, weird phenomena even in my everyday concious state. Sorting through it all continually and very very excited about it and still very gretful to have found this site!

With all that being said, thank you for the tips! When I get home in the morning and meditate and try to AP again I'll ask for clarification and for it to show itself in a form I can better understand. Hopefully it will be nice and friendly as i feel it means no harm . Also, could this be a guide or some other watchful presence or entity of sorts? I hope I can get a final conclusion on it.

I've considered the possibility of it being a remnant of my wife's grandmother who used to live there. She didn't die in the home but my wife says she has dreams about her fairly frequently so maybe it is just her. When it first happened it was one of those wtf was that moments but other than that I wasn't scared or anything just a kind of weird curiosity about what it was i guess. No it's not limited to just this home in particular. Earlier in my life I'd randomly see silhouettes of 'things' is the best way I can put it. Sometimes in my room or in my truck or even on top of buildings etc. I'd get the spine tingly hair raising sensation everytime but sometimes could 'feel' positive or negative energy. understand that I, up until the last month, have pretty well shut the door and shrugged off most o this stuff and basically forgotten about a good portion of it but a few still vividly stick out so I'm trying to figure out if what I've experienced in physical life is really unconcious or subconcious thoughts manifesting in the physical or if i'm some sort of medium or something...I had a very close friend killed five years ago. Visited his grave with a friend once and we were standing there talking about thw good times and the same high pitched hissing, my friends voice drown out and the sound was verrry intense then tingles starting at my shoulders and wrapped around and consumed me. I knew beyond a doubt it was my friend and it scared the excrement out of me! it abruptly stopped and I could hear him running back to the woods. later I felt very calm and peaceful about his situation but in that moment mannn almost had a heartastroke! Similar to the vibe state but with full knowing that you are being embraced so to speak by something...

What I'm saying is I'm wide awake, fully concious in the physical. I was sitting in my recliner after work with a glass of tea and a sandwich and the dog in my lap watching tv. Get the hissing high pitched sound and a shadow moves across the wall behind the tv. I see it and the dog sees it and I know this because she raised her head up out of my lap and turned to see it and we both watched it move across the wall into the kitchen all the while she was growling and snarling at it...i wasn't trying to project or even meditate. She then jumped out of the chair and hopped to the kitchen and started barking and going crazy at only one spot in the kitchen. Anyway, when I am trying to project and or meditate I do get plenty of hypnogogic sights, sounds etc but this was entirely different.

So I've stated before I've had some strange experiences throughout my life but shrugged them off for the most part. Now that I've begun practicing AP after realizing my symptoms over the years were part of it, at random I have a shadow or two on my wall at night that suddenly appear and move about the room and the house. I physically see them as well as my dogs inside. The guard dog outside doesn't seem to notice anything different outside. While practicing and affirming my intent I've asked repeatedly for guides or whoever is present to help if they find me stuck in my body. Have I somehow, only through practice as I have not conciously AP'd that I can recall yet, summoned someone or "thing" into my physical reality? My wife does not notice them and at times while I'm fully concious in the physical I'll begin to hear a high pitched squeel in my ears and feel my body pulsate with energy and then the dogs run to the hall and begin going crazy...I'm new to ALL of this really as far as concious effort so I'm searching out explanations from people who may have these experiences as well. Is this part o AP or something else entirely?

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Lol! Yea after the session i had to take the covers off the bed and double check to make sure there wasn't a tarantula trying to snuggle up to my arse!

Awesome!!! Hopefully very soon i'll be able to break through and wind up somewhere awesome! Thanks for your reply!

While meditating before bed. Got the usual colors, random geometric shapes, swirling darkness and the BAM giant Grey alien head right in front of me with this loud ominous low note organ sound...didn't freak although it did startle me at first. Alien had deep black eyes but the skin reminded me more of carbon fiber material. No conversation, no real interaction other than a staring contest for what seemed like two or three minutes. I put forth a few questions but it never responded that I recall. Anyway, seemed very strange and I expect many more strange things to come as I progress. Just reaching out to see if this is possibly a common theme or encounter among those of you here.

Sunday night i laid down with the intention of projecting. Got to a very relaxed state body numb, unaware of breathing etc and all of a sudden i have this feeling in my forearm like a bug is crawling. Kinda freaked but calmly smacked the spot lol. Regrouped, back to relaxed same as before, same sensation happens on my right bicep but also with the sound similiar to duct tape coming off a roll. Was I about to exit out of my arm? Still getting used to all the new sensations sights and sounds associated with AP. 

Thank you for the input. Indeed I am making changes presently in my personal life which I think is shown through some of the imagery. After reading your response and reflecting on the experience I do now recall a sense of contemplation during. I'm making strides daily to align myself with much more positive energy and dropping all the negativity as i can. I feel that the glowing liquid stuff that ran beside me in the mirror is a small part of the negativity i've picked up through the years and am finally shedding it so to speak.

This is what I recall from last night. It's my personal take on it but would like others input on it. Never felt I was OBE although I had some of the initial symptons but they weren't super intense.

Aug 16-9:22 p.m.

As i laid down for my meditation and rest, after a hard day and much needed shower, i put on the headphones and played a series of binaural sounds to try and aid me as i began the process again. The music/beats played at roughly half volume. I could still hear the A/C unit running but it was not unpleasant or distracting this time. I lay and enjoy the comfort, begin affirming my body is asleep and my mind is aware, I'm aware of my astral body, I am aware no longer of my physical senses or the body in which they serve purpose, over and over. After scouring the forum I remember the 'noticing' technique and decided while the sounds of the beats and music offer distraction from my rambling mind I'd use the time to my advantage and allow it to keep wandering thoughts at bay. My focus narrowed, affirmations in play, noticing the ever shifting palette of colors, shapes, and blackness. Feeling very relaxed I 'notice' my body temperature seemingly go cold! Perhaps to much focus remains on the physical, I am new to this, it will take time. Repeating I'm aware and asking whoever may be listening, watching, guiding me to present itself, them-self and help me to understand, and assist me exiting if they see, feel, however IT works, i'm having trouble. Tiny speck in the distance of the undulating blackness, shifting all sorts of colors resembling gasoline in a puddle of water. I feel a presence, slight tingling or vibrations, and the visions begin. More focused now. It takes me a minute to understand and today I hope I'm interpreting correctly the point of my 'sight'. On the left I can make out a beautiful scene, waterfront and choppy. Vision isn't crystal clear and i focus my attention on making it so. The scene brightens and enhances and the greens are incredible, the breeze is cool and easy, the water is a deep beautiful blue. I feel very much at ease. On the right side it is just a red glow. Reminds me of the color of a sun ripened tomato but has a certain ugly 'feel' to it. 'Why can't I bring the scene from the left into focus with my right' I think. I realize then that the presence I felt earlier has not left but has stayed and is interacting with me. Perhaps the red glow and inability to focus solely on the beauty of the scene left is a sign of my own deep personal conflict I've inflicted, allowed, and endured? The scene changes. Darkness but no the blackness of before. A drop of iridescent something falls to my right and slides downward. I'm in a mirrored cage of some sort. Perhaps another sign to look within as it seems i'm encircled in this place of mirrors. I spend some time there, i do not know how long, my perception of time has left me thankfully. I remember my will is key. I look up, stars! Beautiful! I rise up and peer over the edge. I'm somewhere in the universe. I look outwards trying to bring into focus whatever I can and pick the most distant object I can detect and as for "focus please". Whooosh! Were off! Still inside my mirrored caged it has now become a vehicle of incredible speed! What a feeling. Abrupt stop. Where am I? What planet is this I'm gazing at? Reminds me of Jupiter but I know it's not. Perhaps...my home? I do not know. Scene changes again seemingly without my doing or willing. Back at waterfront except now the serene lake is a circular waterfall that seems endless. As far as i can see down the water dissipates and blackness awaits. I notice above me yet another waterfall coming from a cloud bursting with robust orange lights and green and blue as well. A decision to make. After all,  it is MY will controlling this right? Lets go there i think and up up up we/I went and found myself at the edge of the cloud in front of two massive glowing gates and gateposts. Open please and they did. I wanted to find the 'source' of the water. Floating above it seeing the orange hue above the trees, steadily moving through the landscape and come upon a brilliant city!! Usually cities remind me of hustle bustle and cold cruelness but this place, this place seemed so warm and welcoming. Where is this? How did I get here? No people but the city seems so very alive!! I ask my guides or whoever for assistance getting out so that I could better explore this place and am suddenly flooded with bright warm white light that had a certain liquidity to it! Ah the rush I felt being enveloped in this. I realize then it's yet another interaction from..it? Them? I feel as if they are showing me the choices I CAN make and without knowing completely the consequences of either choice, the city seemed much more interesting than the blackness under the waterfall. Perhaps this is another reflection of my personal physical conscious waking  life? Feels like it. Again, white flowing light rushes over me as if breathing life into me. I awake to sight of my lovely wife and dog entering bed with me! Such warmness of it all in the moment both  the mystical and the physical. I feel I'm on the correct path. The time is 9:47.

Well where I'm at in the Bible belt there is still a fairly strong hold to old ideals. Especially religious. There are a few who are far more accepting than others, myself included, but we are seen as the "hippies" lol. Basically here if your not like the rest of the crowd or don't at least share their beliefs you're pretty much just an outcast. No big deal to me though. All is well in my circle . One friend in particular, he and I have always had the heart to heart discussions of religion, the universe, our purpose yada yada and here lately allll I can think about is getting out of my body and be subjected to the vastness of the astral. Maybe that's my problem, thinking too much about it...anyway he and I are both very interested in finding the source. The closest thing I can remember, outside of my handful of experiences which I did not conciously initiate, was the mushroom trip he and I took. Can't really enjoy that anymore due to work and drug tests etc but I recall the trip being immensely eye opening and have wanted that feeling ever since. Can you or anyone else offer me a starting point to meditation and quieting my mind or reading material to help me at least understand more about the path I'm attempting to take? I have no internet service at my house so I'm limited on my research unless I'm at work. I've looked at a lot of books but being new to this I thought there may be a common set of literature for beginners that wouldn't overwhelm the reader right off.

I see. My next question then is since my brother is so much younger than me (entering second grade) do you guys think he would be more receptive given his age? I remember my imagination/dreams being much more than they are now, or have been at least. I've been imagining a scenario sort of like Peter Pan. In any case, I'm still actively developing my focus and correct state of mind to eject from the physical. I've been daydreaming all day today at work envisioning AP for when I get home and reminding myself to LET GO and to focus...but not focus. I'd like to say again thanks for approving me and All the posts I've read thus far have been as much insightful as inspiring. Maybe one day I'll meet some of you OOB!!!

While I want to expand my conciousness and spirituality, from what I've read, when you AP, the possibilities are virtually limitless. What I'd like to be able to do is visit my little brother and take him with me after (if) I get the hang of going OOB. We're 18 years apart and right now there are some personal challenges going on within our family and although he doesn't say it, I can see it on him and feel it around him that something is going on inside he doesn't know how to express or conceive yet. I read these post and other articles etc and think how wonderful it would be to be able to share such an experience with him! I've yet to induce my own concious AP but feel and hope soon I'll be able to! Have any of you been able to "pull" loved ones or friends etc out of body?

I'll absolutely continue my AP!! I came close the other night, i think, to exiting. I'm very green with my meditation, relaxation techniques as of now, but I was able to fully relax, had some very vivid colors and a vision of a spinning pyramid which was in the middle of this beautiful meadow that wverytime the win would blow the grasses would change to all colors of the rainbow yet the pyramid was black and white. When I got close to it it stopped spinning and it opened and i went inside. Inky, unjulating blackness...3D void maybe? After that vibrations got very intense along with high pitched hissing and i could see through what i assume were my eyelids a couple black figures darting back and forth and standing over me at one point and that's when our guard dog outside lost her mind!! Naturally that broke whatever state i was in and kind of made me a bit uneasy too but very very excited at the same time! Hopefully soon I'll be able to exit and report back with an astral experience of my own!:) by the way, loving this forum and all the insight on the subject!!

Thank you for the reply. Which of these events in particular are you considering the NDE? I'll be sifting through info on them today for sure!

Hi all. First post here. This will be a bit of a read but I thought i'd lay out what has, I felt, led me here. When i was ten, I had four teeth remove at the dentist. Gassed me "count back...you may feel like your floating..." Went fully OB, remember the silver thread, do not recall being fearful or it strange I just remember it being absolutely awesome!!! Flew around the office, through the walls, all over town . Fast forward 8 years later after watching one of the excorcist movies( raised Baptist so naturally fearful of duh dehbul) had my first recollection of SP. felt the weight, saw the demon laughing and choking me, scared me senseless to say the very least. Move forward and i'm 22 and ha moved back home briefly. Asleep, maybe, on my parents couch with their dog at my feet. I can see the dog over my head on the backrest of the couch looking iver my head and snarling, growling, barking at something in the den. Arms felt unusually heavy but i managed to reach up towards the dog...but he wasn't there, he was still at my feet looking at me puzzled and i to him lol. Fall back out and notice the light comes on in the kitchen and hear my little brother and mother. He's wanting a bowl of cereal and to come sleep with me and mom is telling him to be quiet because i was asleep. Rub my eyes, no lights on, no noise, dog is gone i check down the hall and no one has moved. Stay up a couple hours racking my brain trying to make sense of it and decide to shake it off and go back to sleep. Lay back down and after awhile ilI begin to hear two male voices unfamiliar to me. Open my eyes and two men are i. Front of me in the den!! A tall heavy set figure in the corner by the tv and a slender average height guy in the middle of the den. Both are debating whether i'm "ready to go or not" and for whatever reason was not scared or unsettled by their presence. Slender guy walks up and kneels down in front of me smiling peacefully. I tried to speak but my vocals were not working lol just noise like uhhhhrregggg haha and he communicated telepathically with me. Said not to be afraid they were here to take me with them because they needed to show me something and he took my hand but the other guy said he's not ready yet, it's obvious. The slender one turned back still smiling and said "i understand. Whenever you are ready we will be waiting" and poof! Into a million tiny twinkling sparks of brilliant blue light they vanished.  I had never even hear of astral projection until two weeks ago. These events in my life, I believe to a point, have led me here. I've always had big questions that no one earthly can answer. Have any of you had similar experiences? Can you guys/gals give me some advice or direction as to where I should begin to get back to whoever they were and what it was they had in store for me?

Thanks