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The saying "Ask, and you shall receive" took your emotions away just as you had wished. That same saying can be your cure to get them back if you wish with strong intentions.

That's exactly what I was thinking Lightbeam!  

Intent got you to where you are. Only a strong focused will and intent will get you back to where you want to be. I also hear the words "Don't know what you got, till it's gone" when I read your predicament. A well known song by the band Cinderella.

It won't likely be a over night change. It likely took a long time to get where you are now. So, it will take awhile to get back to your 'normal" again as well.

It happened for a reason though. You should try to find out why. What were you missing in you life? What was your mindset at the time? How has it "changed you"?

Some of us here are experiencing a similar thing via our NPR experiences. We have talked about it often here lately. It seems we are being "prepped" to being Observers. Almost like Record Keepers. To do that we have had a number of tests and challenges that seem to not only tame our egos, but also to de-sensitize us in some way shape or form. It's hard to describe. But it's like looking at things from the inside out.
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Thank you for the link to the talks, Lumaza!

I thought you might enjoy those!  Thank PhaPriSpa, he/she is the one that refreshed my memory on them in his/her new thread here. 

I remember reading about this. Fishy how both scientist have heart attacks and their materials disappear. After all they were painted as quacks at the time.

I read this in the past as well Nameless. Fishy indeed!    

It was research like this that i did that lead me to find Torsion field technology.  The original theory of a "Torsion Field" was put forth by Russian Physics researchers, It didn't take long for the rest of the World, especially the "talking heads" of the United States here to label it "Pseudo-Science".  Now it is being utilized worldwide in health and healing.

I posted this back in 2016 on the Vehram System thread here:
"I have studied Scalar Waves and years ago I began reading about a healing device known as the "Scenar Device", that was created by Russian Scientists years ago. At first it was also known as "Pseudoscience". But now it is being used in Hospitals and Clinics around the World. The first time I saw it in the USA, the company selling it gave no acclaim whatsoever to the real creators of the device. To tell you the truth, at the time I had first seen it, you could find American websites that were claiming it to be a scam. So sad, so sad!  

The same occurred with "Rife Machine" when it first introduced. So I guess I shouldn't have been surprised.   "

Thanks, EV! Those books are on my must-read list, and I admit I'm a little chomping at the bit to read them, but I've been restraining myself. I feel like I need a better foundation or experiential "lay of the land" first; I'm soooo itching to get them, but if I have a certain experience *after* I read them, then I'll always have to wonder whether it was just my own subconscious "noise".

I just had a great walk down memory lane. A member of ours here named PhaPriSpa just shared a bunch of links in his last post here. I never know what to say to him. He seems to think things in the Astral are always out to get him. But he posts some good links and is very thorough in them too. This link will bring you to a Seminar that Robert Monroe did. In it, he describes the "Human experiment" and more about the history of the Institute and "brain entrainment" in general. Like I said, it was a great walk down memory lane. Even if you have already heard it in the past, it still can give you those "ah ha" moments.  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSBM7Qeo5bg&list=PL1M3JqrFNoVQTc3lm6kORhtxYuVeaCB1T&index=1

Odd, how the idea of a "mission", which is so fundamental for each one of us, seems to be something They are reluctant to just tell us!

It wouldn't be a "challenge" if we were told everything. We came to this "school" here for a reason. Part of the "lessons" involve seeking out and finding our true purpose. Not just finding it. It's more like "embracing" it.  

 Nameless, you killed the water!  That's it, I am unfriending you, lol! 

 Lightbeam, tonight's Ancient Aliens episode was one of my favorites. The episode is Titled "The Harmonic Code" and as the name says it was all based on "acoustics, harmonics and somatics". They showed how acoustics and harmonics were used by our ancient ancestors. They were even built into their structure, such as Hypogeum in Malta. They showed how acoustic and harmonics can be utilized in many different ways, including "levitation".
The episode was a re-run from earlier in 2021. Years ago they touched on the subject in other various episode. But tonight's episode was entirely based on "sound".

They call that field of study "Archaeoacoustics" and I have always been fascinated by it. It has a tie in to "non local states of consciousness as well! 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaeoacoustics

[The 'demons' are going to look like whatever you will them to. The entirety of demons you encounter on the astral plane are a cause of your own emotions(usually fear in this case) reflecting themselves on your outside environment. This is a natural law of the astral.]

 Contenteo's answer was so good I will post it again. this what I found out too.

"The 'demons' are going to look like whatever you will them to. The entirety of demons you encounter on the astral plane are a cause of your own emotions(usually fear in this case) reflecting themselves on your outside environment. This is a natural law of the astral."

Nameless, Ted Bundy was hard to find and got away with what he did because he fit perfectly into society itself. He looked like a normal everyday person. His Demon ruled from the inside.

 There are two quotes that are used quite a bit in our home. MJ's is "everything in moderation". Mine is "if it's not broken, don't fix it". Both are tried and true quotes that we use often here. Words to live by! 

HI Xuanxi, Here's a link to a sticky you might find interesting. Take whatever resonates with you and go with that.

http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_dreams/how_to_convert_lucid_dreams_into_an_astral_projections-t15487.0.html

Thanks Nameless! I was going to share that link with Xuanxi as well.  

I have no idea sometimes what people are talking about when they say Focus 2 and all that stuff anymore. I only know the way I experience it myself now. That's the only thing I can really judge on. All these books and their techniques, I guess it worked for the Author, but not necessarily everyone else. I have seen that in my Doorway technique as well. There are many people that have a hard time visualizing, on demand that is. Everyone visualizes, they just aren't aware of it.

When I become aware in any experience I immediately begin to "notice"/be aware of what is occurring in that environment, then re-act to it. I like to observe it all first. Unless, I immediately find myself "thrown into the fray". That seems to happen quite a bit. I seem to become aware just as the sht is hitting the fan, lol! It's like my non physical personality/character says "tag, your it", lol.

My sleep paralysis induced OBEs still have exit symptoms. I believe what EV said earlier in another thread and that is that many times we are going into SP after we are returning from a unaware Dream experience, still on the boarder line of REM sleep. First I sense it is coming on. I become "ultra aware" that something strange is about to happen. Then the vibrations begin, light at first. The  vibrations seem to become a kind of pulsing sensation. There is a sound as well. We call that the "Astral winds". It starts as a low hum and gradually gets stronger. Both the sound and body pulses get stronger until they merge together and become a constant. Then every thing goes quiet and still and the next thing I know, I am being pulled out through my feet and legs. I am not actively doing anything, other then focusing on the process. Then it's dragged down my hallway to my dining room and out the patio window.

Xanth,

Just curious. In the case of a lucid dream (specifically DILD) would you do something, in particular, to break out of the more subjective F2 dream reality?

If I can answer this Xanth with a question, it would be "why would you want to"? I have found that when you find yourself in a environment, experiencing something other than this physical realm here, than there is a good reason for that. You are already "there". Go investigate and explore the area you find yourself in. There is always a story or lesson, should I say, that is waiting to reveal itself there!  

But one thought. Conspiracy theories are born of misunderstandings. Conspiracies themselves are born from those theories.

Conspiracy theories normally have a "semblance" of truth to them too. They just seem to become over exaggerated, overdone and a lot of times misunderstood or misread.

if there was any secret or covert operations born on the use of Hemi-sync or any other Monroe programs, we would likely become privy to it in about 30 years. That seems to be how it goes. We see evidence of that still today!

Glad you brought this topic up LB. I have seen this research before and even did my own experiment. Filled glass jars with water while thinking happy positive thoughts. I did this while handling the jars, filling them and placed them in the refrigerator where I left them a few days with labels on the bottom. Later a bunch of kids (teens, friends of my kids) were over and wanted water so I gave each a jar with no comment. Far as they were concerned it was just a glass of cold water. I would never have thought a simple glass of water would wring out so many positive comments. Those kids positively glowed just sitting around the table drinking water and talking.

Hesitantly later I did the opposite and I'll never do that again. Water is a miracle fluid. I believe that and our thoughts are just as fluid. Below is a link to a video I think you all might find interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeeAMNxuqio

Nameless, that's awesome! Thanks for the share!   I enjoyed the video!  
Here's another great video on the "Mystical Secrets of Water".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kKGzCL4D5w

As you already know, I am sold on the "power and unique properties of water". My daily Phase routine involves lying in a bathtub of water. One of our members here named Baro-san sent me a PM years ago with a link to historical detail of how "Archimedes" did some of his best work while lying in water.
https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/relaxation-non-doing-archimedes-d8ca959d-0b6?p=855b02b6f6f515f1e72cb2f0e3373ef4

I miss Baro-san and his wisdom. He used to send me the most interesting links based on experiments I did. Hopefully he will return soon. Looking at his profile, I see he still logs on here occasionally, It's just his "voice" has gone silent.

In my experience I would say they don't avoid talking about physical exits but they don't actively talk about them either because they don't want to frontload your experiences when you go there. They are more than willing to discuss if you ask.

That makes prefect sense to me! 

Jay seemed to take more of a "conspiracy" based approach to his conversation. That had to do with the link to "CIA" and other 3 letter organizations of note. He felt that they were omitting the actual process of a full body exit on purpose due to wanting to keep that info to themselves, for reasons of 'National Security". At least that's what I got from his conversation over at Casey's Forum.

 I have seen this happen to many businesses. It's sad if this is the case with the Monroe Institute as well. Like I said, I have never been there, so I only know what this Jay has said. I always thought the SAM program was more of a progression. We see progression in all forms of technology. I don't know why it wouldn't be any different here either. Businesses will always try to update and improve their products. That's the law of the Jungle. Internal strife seems to come and go as well.

Casey, I meant the fact that Jay was talking about the Institute "supposedly" avoiding the conversation where a physical "exit, as in the exit symptoms, weren't really talked about and seemed to be somewhat ignored there. I thought that meant that they were focusing more on a "walkthrough/Phasing" approach to it all.

I found the Military assessment of the Monroe programs to be of great importance to aid in the understanding of what is happening in them. It actually describes why things in my Doorway thread work so well. It describes the mindset needed. It even describes the way the brain translates this all. The comparison to Hypnosis, Biometrics and Transcendental Meditation was spot on. I have always felt that Phasing was along the lines of a kind of self Hypnosis that helped us to access parts of our consciousness that stay dormant during our physical waking time.

Hi, Lu..

Yeah this Doc has been making the rounds the past few months for sure!

We had a conversation about it over on my boards which you may also find to be of interest. I'll post this here for you and others with interest:
https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/omtalks/viewtopic.php?p=8457#p8457


The thread includes some other interesting and related links people might like looking into.


Casey

Thanks for the share. I read that last night! 

  It was interesting to hear from some of those people that went and did the Monroe program at the Monroe Institute. They were saying that the Monroe Institute seemed to be getting away from what it was initially created for. It's good to get others opinions. I have never been there, but I know people that have. I guess that shouldn't surprise me though. In the beginning many people that come here to the Pulse for information are looking at OBE in the sense of "climbing out of the body", a actual "exit". After awhile many of those people seem to change over or "evolve", if you wish, to using more of "Phasing" approach to acquire non local states of consciousness.

 Ah,, speaking in other languages or even "tongues". I have had experiences like this as well. It's nice to see another thing that many of us at the Pulse have in common. The one thing that really peaks my interest though is when you become aware you are playing a instrument or are in some kind of line of work or something that you have never been taught to do here in this physical reality before. Those experiences are "head scratchers" as well. The same is when everyone knows your name in some reality, but you, lol! People you have never met that are conversating with you like you are "Family" or some kind of best Friend. Places you find yourself that you have never been to. There are so many strange things that you can experience in the NPRs.

We use the term NPR (non physical realm/reality) quite a bit here on the Astral Pulse. Yet many of the places we experiences "there" seem to be just like here. In the sense of being just as "physical", with the same or almost the same "rule sets" as this reality here has. Some believe it or not are even more physical! 

 I saw that episode a few times now. I love Fridays! 

  I know there have been others Scientists that have done similar experiments. One that comes to memory is a Japanese Researcher/Scientist named Dr. Masuru Emoto that experimented with snowflakes and emotion. Very interesting indeed! 

If it could influence our health like that, we would have a lot of sick Politicians, Actors, Sports Stars, all kinds of people that people seem to target their hate towards.

I don't know who said this but I have also found that as much empathy I have, at the same time I understand why challenges NEED to happen and I accept them. New World Order, yes no problem. Virus created on purpose, sure, the masses have agreed on a higher level to experience this. I am realizing that I no longer look and react at life and the happenings from a character 's perspective, but rather from a much higher stand point that sees the entire picture.

That's exactly what I mean when i constantly use the word, as a Title, "Observer". It's like you are putting yourself outside of the situation, looking in. This means that you actually think about your actions before implementing them. You aren't reacting on impulse anymore. You see things in a completely different way then most people do. To many that would show a lack of sympathy or empathy. But that's not the case. It's the opposite. As a Observer you are very aware of those emotions as well. They are enhanced and always present You just seem to exhibit a amazing level of "self-control". That is why it is so valuable in the practice of non physical reality explorations.

I think with this upsurge in mindfulness coming to the west, spirituality has been stripped from the practice of meditation and has been marketed to the masses on the basis of scientific backed health benefits only. Sadly this has left people utterly unprepared for anything spiritual that might arise in meditation.

True. the reason $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. As shown in this here quote from that article "The market for meditation products and services in the United States is valued at $1.2 billion". The "Magic Pill" is what today's "now society" is searching for. Most interviews I hear on Radio shows talking about Meditation/OBE's, etc., are marketing something. It's either their book or their website where you can sign up for their seminars". Only the 'rich" need apply though. That's why I like the Pulse and  continue to frequent it still today. We here all volunteer our services ,help, teachings, etc., for free.

The warning in that article is similar similar to the one found in the AUP on this very Forum here. It should be at the top, the header of the Forum. I think it used be. I see it's now buried in the "Welcome to Out of Body Experiences" Sub-forum.
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_out_of_body_experiences/aup_addendum_must_read-t44677.0.html

Everyone of us can and is capable of learning how to Astral Project. Not all of us should though. I once made this statement here in a thread "" Learning these things has it's positives. But it has it's negatives as well. The more I learn and "know", the farther I grow away from the woman I love. I don't feel like I am growing away, but I can see it in her reactions and attitude towards me now. It tends to desensitize you to things that in life that we should be sensitive to. Just knowing that you are more then your physical body changes your outlook/mindset on life quite a bit. This is why there are many people that start down this road, but can't continue. The physical life fights back and ground them."

To this a good friend of mine and former member/Moderator here replied:
"This! This right here would be my only "warning" to people. It's a hard concept to explain how you grow to be more loving  and compassionate yet you are also less affected by tragedy and sensitive issues. I know longer care about concepts like justice or revenge. I would have no problem with the Hitler's of the world dying and then immediately going to their own heavens without a second of punishment. Why? Because my experiences have taught me to be accepting and nonjudgmental. I've learned lessons in the NP that ten lifetimes of reading religious books couldn't teach me."

So, yes, it is important to understand and be aware of the benefits, but also the implications of this practice before you delve down this road.

 Coincidence!? I say not. There is definitely waves coming. Minnesota is dealing with another one of those "waves" right now,.

After the fact, I saw it the same way you did. The "collision"/destruction had to occur before the healing could really finally begin. It was allowed to happen. It had to happen. That's the only way that positive change could occur.

What I found really strange though was how the questions were entering my mind and then I asked them. They didn't seem to be questions that I would have asked. They were rapid fire and I didn't even seem to give the Captain a chance to answer them. I also couldn't tell if all the communication was occurring verbally. I did know that I was in a "physical" body/vessel for this experience. Yet I never saw the actual body. It never crossed my mind to look at it though. It never does though. Many of my experiences are experienced from the point of view of a single "point of consciousness". At least that's the way I experience things in my Phase soak sessions. A "point of consciousness" has no limitations! 

 I had this rather bizarre LD/non physical reality experience last night. For some I feel that it has some kind of correlation to the this thread I created on the Pulse a few days ago. I didn't want to piggy back my experience on that thread because I think that thread deserves it's own focus, per se.
Here is a link to that thread:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_news_and_media/the_militarys_intelligence_assessment_of_the_monroe_institutes_program-t48078.0.html;msg375641#msg375641

Now to my experience. It all began when I became consciously aware that I am on some kind of "Tour". We are on a large ship and the captain is explaining why the ship is part of the Tour and what their part is in it. It seems that these guys are all real Heroes. They save lives on the ocean. We then see clips of their Heroics on the Hight Seas. They go into storms and save people just as their ships are to be destroyed due to mainly "Rogue Waves". For those that aren't familiar with water a Rouge Wave is, you can go to this site and they will explain it. The short version is it is a giant destructive wave that just appears, due to storms colliding, underwater tremors, all kinds of reasons. They are so menacing, they destroy anything in their path.
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/roguewaves.html

Back to the experience now. Everyone in the crowd is applauding these men and you hear a lot of "Oohs and Ahh's" as the clips of the Heroics finally come to an end. The people then move on to the next "exhibit". it kind of seemed like an Exhibit that you find in a Museum. It has that feel to it.

I stayed behind and followed Captain of the ship to his "Bridge", where they pilot the ship. There I saw a few more crew members of his. I then began asking the Captain questions. Before I get into that, I want to describe him and his crew a bit. They basically fit the picture of being the stereotypical hard nose, no nonsense, "tried and tested" men that you would find in the Fishing, Whaling Industry, even the Coast Guard. You could tell they were very good Souls though. What they were doing was amazing.

I began asking questions to the Captain about what they did. The crew members basically ignored me and the Captain seemed to be giving a "spiel" that he has given many times. The weird thing was, I could sense the questions before I even said them. It was like I a puppet and being coached. Weird!  The questions soon began to change to that of another focus and that was how did consciousness fit into this whole thing, Now I could that the other crew members were all of sudden checking me out. After more discussion the Captain invited me to go watch a actual event live as it was happening. In other words, they got a call.

We didn't have to go anywhere. Just as I was standing there, a roar started and the whole ship and us were bucking violently. We were right in the middle of a violent storm. In front of us was a large Freighter. At this point, it was in the distance. I could see us approaching it quickly. To the right of us I could see a towering wave. This thing was immense. Just as the wave hit the Freighter, the containers on the Freighter were launched into the air, but some unseen force field seemed to catch them and gather them up. The people on the ship then were taken by some unseen force and the next thing I know, they are on the deck of our ship. Our ship is no longer just a Coast guard like vessel. Now it is some kind of platform, like a Aircraft Carrier.

There was a number of times that I was skipping from 1st person view to 3rd person, more of a "Observer" view. It especially occurred when the adventure on the ship got to be too "real".

I just finished my daily Phase soak in my tub and there I got to not only re-live, but also see and understand a bit more on what I was watching. At first in my questioning, all of those questions were based on the "physical" aspects of what these guys were doing. At that point, the left side of my mind was dominant and the Captain and crew didn't seem to be interested in talking to me, At least in elaborating that is. But once my right brain became dominant, the focus changed to a "non physical" related one. We were talking about Consciousness and not only that but "Retrievals" as well. What they, the  Captain and the crew were doing was kind of "mass" Retrievals. In the clips they showed us, they had a few where they were helping a Couple, like man and wife who were stranded in a storm. But for the most part, most of what they did seemed to help large vessels.

I questioned why did they not stop the destruction before it occurred. They were always there ahead of it, they could easily move them out of harm's way. The Captain said, "Because the destruction was necessary for them to finally see what they needed to see., For them to finally be able to rest and Heal.

There were things that were evident to me to show me that it was a Retrieval. The Ship they used, could be any kind of vessel or Ship that was necessary to achieve the task at hand.

It was a very lengthy LD. But it was one of the first in days that I have had that didn't end with me awaking with some kind of song on my lips. For some reason, I have had a few weeks now where a song or lyrics of a song is the last thing I consciously remember upon awakening.

 

 Yes Erik, it is a fantastic read. There are many things that really stick out in his assessment. Although there were many others, this one paragraph here really caught my attention.

"This study is certainly not designed to be the last word on the subject but I hope that the validity of its basic structure and of the fundamental concepts upon which it is based will make it a useful guide for other USAINSCO.M personnel who are required to take the Gateway training or work with Gateway materials.".

It shows that they were indeed "serious" about this!

 While perusing another Forum that used to be more about OBEs and the such, but has since turned to a Conspiracy site, I came across this Gem. I am not going to name that Forum. But I will say thank you to Bill for the share there. The timing for me seeing this is very bizarre. I have been prompted via my Phase soak sessions to update my Doorway thread with some new info that is based on why now! After reading this fantastic article. I now see why now.
I will post my response to this at a later time. For now, I am curious what your view of this is or if anyone really even cares! 
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20601195/6-full-report.pdf

 My first conscious OBE had occurred at the age of 12 years old. It was terrifying! 

I had spent the day working with my Father at his company. A tractor trailer came in loaded with boxes for the company and he and I set out to unload it. He got a phone call, so I continued to unload it myself. The boxes weighed an average of about 25-30 lbs each. There was well over 100 of them in the truck. My Father's phone call went on for awhile so I continued the work myself. He was shocked to see that I had almost unloaded the whole thing myself. That was a lot of work for a thin 12 year old to do.

That night we got home, ate and about 6;00pm I went to bed. I was so exhausted I just fell onto the bed and was out cold. The next thing I remember is I am paralyzed but aware. My body feels extremely heavy. I managed to slither from the bed to the ground and now I was nose deep in my the shag carpeting of my room. I started to scream, but no body came to help. I was terrified. The next thing I know, it is morning and I am waking up. I asked the people in the house why didn't they come to help me. They looked at me puzzled and said they never heard a thing. So, I never pursued it any further. I remembered it though. It was one of those things that you never forget.

The next time I had a full completely conscious OBE was my 3 night OBEathon that I had was back in 2011 and that led me to this Forum here. I do have very vivid memories of being "touched" in my sleep. It was always my feet and legs. That was terrifying too. But I figured it was normal because no one else really talked about it. Many times when I was very young, I remember going up the stairs in my home to my bedroom while being chased by a a car. It was the same way constantly. For some reason I felt like I was going to die in a car crash and for that reason I have avoided being in cars for most of my life. I was always a Van person. I travelled for years across this beautiful country here in a Van. The Van was equipped with a bed, table, all kinds of goodies.

I am tempted/want to do a 'Cat in the Hat' routine...lol

The cat jumped onto my back and drove me into the NP
Here and there I swear, that cat showed me everywhere
Far flung places and distance and faces, all of it fascinating and quizzical
'til morning was showing, my awareness groaning
the cat abandoned me to the Physical

Catchy tune! Maybe your on to something here, lol! 

T-Man, I constantly have to deal with these "repeating episodes" or "do-overs". So much that I have a name for them and that's "re-scripting_. If you look that word up in the Forum search engine, it should lead to a number of my posts here where I shared a "re-scripted" adventure. My question has always been, exactly who is responsible for these "forced" do-overs? I say forced because I don't seem to have a say in the matter. I just have to keep repeating a scenario over and over again until I get it "right". Right, according to who, I have know idea! 

I have personally found that the "re-scripted" experiences do have a tendency to lead to "false awakenings" as well! More questions., Every new experience leads to more questions. It never ends!