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Thanks for the replies. I don't know what kind of entitiy it was. It is gone now because we are in a different apartment. But it was a small, ugly creature.. I don't know how to explain it. It was with no hair, ugly face, big stomach, tiny hands... kind of like that. I have forgotten already because this was 2 years ago. The idea for exersices to protect myself is great; Thanks a lot! I will strart trying once again. Has anyone tried the Monroe Focus 10 CDs? I will probably buy them

I haven't written here for years. I used to have OBEs before when I was away from my husband and waited to follow him overseas. Then I used to have them almost every night. Then, we reunited and they gradually decreased until they stopped completely. One possible reason for them stopping was not only that we got together but also because in our apartment was an entity that kept attacking me. So I got afraid of going out. I was wondering, how can I overcome my fear and bring them back. Is it possible to lose this ability forever? The only thing left from that time is that I still have the ability to watch with my eyes closed when I concentrate. I know it is unbelievable but it is true. ... How can I have OBEs again? Can anybody help with suggestions?Thanks

Hi astral man, I started watching thru my closed eyelids for 2 years by now but i was never able to see anything out of the ordinary. I just saw everything around me the way i would see it with open eyes except a bit more blurry maybe. I also wondered if i would be able to see anything different but since i watch thru my closed eyelids not while lying down or anything like that maybe i don't shift my state of mind at all so i just see the physical plane. Good luck

I had a similar experience. It felt like a real OBE at the time when it was happening the way dreams feel real while you dream. At first as if i left my body - i could see the room the way it was in the dark and i started spinning in a circle over my bed without any control of myself - i finally managed to stop the spinning and it really felt that it was really happening and that i was out of my body, but then i flew out of the window and thought this was more a dream than an obe - i was in the front of our apartment area and flied but with a lot of efforts in flying- i only need to put effort in this if it is a dream. I saw one tree that was far away and thought to myself that if this was a real OBE the moment i think i want to be on this tree it would happen. So i thought and i was still on the ground... And finally my question is - are such dreams training for having future OBEs ( i used to have them more than a year ago)

I learned to see through my closed eyes during one meditation and since then i can do it. My eyes are closed but i see the actual surroundings, nothing more or less to be seen that the actual surroundings. I don't know though what use could this be. And i don't feel like it is from the third eye. It is just as if my astral eyes go in front of the eyelids and i can see...

I wanted to know if there would be any dangers if you are pregnant and have OBEs...

I wanted to recommend a great book about lucid dreaming that I'm reading right now. It really is worth, it has a lot exercises in it and very interesting theories. It's called Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming by Stephen LaBerge, Ph.D. and Howard Rheingold and this is a link about it's contents.
http://www.lucidity.com/EWLD-contents.html I hope you like it. take care []

Recently for a week or so I keep on having dreams about leaving my body. The "OBEs" are not aways the same but I dream of this every night and strange as it might seem I dream of dead people as well - not actual people, but I know they are dead, mostly their ghosts but sometimes also their corpses. Only once I dreamt of an actual person that I know was dead. This was an old woman. I looked at her and knew she was dead but she apparantly didn't know that. She said to herself: Why doesn't she talk to me anymore? And also next to her was another woman who seemed to be her higher-self. She was looking at her but the old woman wasn't aware of that. It was like as if the higher-self knew she was dead but couldn't tell her and was invisible to her as well.  I also met two people when I asked about my astral sword. They gave it to me and when I asked them about my guides they said that I will be like everyone else and keep on bothering them. I don't know what they meant but as I say this was a dream so they may not be real entities. I also dream of flying as well of having OBE. I was wondering if anyone had the same dreams. My explanation is that dreaming of having an OBE or of flying is sort of training to have an OBE. If anyone wants to comment or interpret the dreams they are more welcome to do so []

I had this astral travel lately where I was in a beatiful country. The lands were green with beatiful trees and a beautiful blue river flowing around. It seemed so perfect and then I saw a man maybe with green outfit and hat - one like that of Robin Hood. I went to him and told him Hello and he said Hello, he was laughing at me. He had strange things on his face which were like snakes or something. After being nice for a while he tried to catch my leg still laughing. I got scared and managed to flow away. I wonder did anyone have any experience like this. Who might this be??? What to do when you meet a creature??? Thanks in advance []

I had this the mind-split effect once before reading about it. It happened because I wanted to travel to a very distant place right away, I mean not flying over trees and mountains. I wanted to be there instantly- I was in Europe and wanted to go to visit my boyfriend in the US. So I wished for it and saw him but kind of fell in the black hole as they call it. It became blurry and was very quick. I read later about it and found out that to avoid the black hole you must say before wanting to go that you will be fully conscious once you reach the desired place and everything will be clear. This is supposed to prevent you from falling in this black hole []

The things that prevent me from having OBEs sometimes aretoo full stomach, too emty stomach, loud noise, interruption, someone to sit on my bed while I am trying to AP, not enough sleep (leads to falling asleep), too much sleep (cannot fall into trance), tiredness, inability to stay in one position without moving and that's pretty much it. I don't think TV affects me. But I do believe taking care of your body physically is important - regular training for example []

By what I had read I can say he doesn't talk about anything else but lucid dreaming. There are some dreams of different people included and some of them seem like OBEs to me. It's an interesting book about lucid dreaming because of all the exercizes and explanations there are about lucid dreaming. I was mostly impressed by the teories discussed there and things I didn't even know were going on in our brain while creating the dream.

By the way I have been having quite vivid dreams lately in which I am traveling out of body, but I do believe they were dreams. I experience bigger vibrations than I used to and am in what seems RTZ but when I try to wake it's a flase wake and I am soo deep in sleep that I find it hard to wake in the real world. Does this happen to anyone?

"....all OBEs are APs....but not all APs are OBEs..confusnnG"


Sorry but I have to disagree - it was the oposite - All APs are OBEs but not all OBEs are APs
because APs as you say are projections to different realms, so an AP is a dream as well, and a dream is sort of an OBE, also not all OBEs are APs because some OBEs are in the Real Time Zone so they are not necessary APs (which is in a different realm or plane)

I have read of a nice reality check which I even did once in ym dream. It was to read any kind of sign (text) or sentence, move your head away and then read it again. If it's the same you're not dreaming. In the dreams on the contrary the words change the instant you move your head away.  I think that 4-5 reality checks a day are plenty.

I think that his strong desire to leave his body has actually brought his guides to take him out of his body. I think a person might find it harder to take someone out of their body. I was once taken out by my guides and it was amazing. Also I think if it was a man that had taken him out he would have told him and not remain anonymous - so it could have been his guide

Hi []
I am reading this book and am very impressed. I find it very interesting. Not only it has a lot of exercises but also a lot of theories about the dreams and researches that had been done. I think some of the chapters of the book are publiched in the web site of the lucidity institute - www.lucidity.com so if someone wants they can review them first This might not be new but I think it's very useful Take care

I understand. It's ok It doesn't matter. I will do visualization later Thanks for the warning []

I once projected next to the ocean. It was great, I went in the water but not beneath it.

The first books I ever read about projections are Robert Monroe's books and that's what got me excited about the idea. It wasn't until 5 years later that I projected fully consciously. To read his books was very inspiring and I haven't read any other books as interesting as his ( I haven't read any of Robert Bruces book by the way so I don't know about him)that's about all, but I am not an experienced traveller, only now and then I leave my body

Hi thelou I was more successful three days ago. I think what helped me most was the  knowledge that I can take energy from outside. By now I thought that I can only use the energy in me and that's why I did not try to strech or when I did try it wasn't successful. But this time three days ago when my left hand started pulsating with energy again I imagined taking it from outside and successfully stretched it from my left hand to my left shoulder, then through my chest and my whole right hand. It felt like a wave of energy but the best part is that I was controlling it. It felt like I had done it myself when I imagined it go in these directions. So I am very happy for this discovery about energy and thankful for your answer and tips as well as every body elses You're talking about psi balls right. I might try it someday. I don't know if this is very easy but I will try and if I do it I'll post ))))) Thanks [] Now I realise that the only obstacles we find during astral projection or energy work are only our inner beliefs - like the one I had about energy. The moment I let go of that belief I was able to stretch the energy much more, even though it wasn't as powerful as the starting point - my left hand . Anyways, thanks again and take care []

I have only AP-ed while being on one of my sides. Out of 25 OBEs only one was while laying on my back and it was a very short one, just a separation of a meter above my body and that was it. Usually I can only do it when I am laying on one of my sides

Hi Thelou,
I am right-handed as well []
Yesterday I tried spreading the energy form my hand to my shoulder and it worked - only throughout the arm I mean. But this is advancing I guess - because it was not only imagination , I could feel the enrgy going up my arm but it seemed much less powerful when it was going upwards, I don't know if it would've been enough for the whole body ( again not that I have tried to spread it more than that haha) But most importantly I took energy from outside. I guess I never thought that I should be taking energy from outside rather than from myself. I'll keep working []
Take care

Hi thelou, thanks very much for the link. [] I will definitely read it. I guess you are right by telling I don't do much but I tried to imagine the energy spreads last night but with no effect. Maybe there is a special technique I should be using but I'll know more about it once I read the link. When you say that I draw energy where do I draw it from and why do you think I do not draw through my right hand as well? You're right when you say I waste my energy very fast. As I said before that I only have 2-3 experiences a month and after that it's like I charge myself till the next month when again I am full with energy and leave my body without efforts. Thanks for the link )) Take care []

Again thanks for the detailed answers Matthew Kingsley and Thing [] Even though the energy seems very strong in my hand I don't know if I can expand it the way Thing suggested  because it happens naturally by itself so even if I imagine the energy to expand I don't know if I will be successful(well, I haven't tried). One thing I find very useful when I try to loosen my astral body is to imagine a simple movement of my right arm or leg for exapmle. I imagine it as hard as I can - a movement of the sort up and down, ofcourse without moving my physical arm (or leg) even the slightest and soon after I start imaging it my astral arm separates (it's much haredr for legs)and does the movement I imagine because it follows the commands of the brain. If you haven't tried this I suggest you try it and see what happens.
Frequent Flier makes a good point in his post but this is not entirely true having in mind that in the old times people did not have stress in their lives and were not bound that much to material things. Now we are surrounded by technology and it affects us. There are a lot of people that are able to leave their body without any effort and I guess in these days this should be considered even a greater gift than what it was before. It's true that we shouldn't complicate things unnecessary but they are a bit more complicated now than before. I think that energy work is useful especially when you try to have more OBEs than normal so it is helpful. But as Matthew Kingsley and Thing said before that we all do energy work most of the time - when you're out in the nature and enjoy the beauty, when you are positive, when you are artistic and create something. I draw all the time so I think this helps me recharge with energy. Again thanks for all the answers [] Every thought was most useful, take care

Thanks again for the answers []
I find this information very useful. I will read the book New Energy Ways and since we are on the topic of energy let me ask one last question. Probably a month and a half ago I started feeling a very strange sensation in my left hand. Maybe for this period this has happened about 10-15 times. It feels as of there is a powerful energy flowing in my left hand, pulsation in it. My left hand gets a bit detached. I have had this feeling of separating only my hands before but this was different because it was not only separation but energy flow - very distinct. I don't know if I can explain it but I hope you get the idea. Also I only feel it in my left hand and I was wondering if anyone had experienced this and why does it happen in only the left hand?? Do you have an explanation of that? Thanks again