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CaCoDeMoN

I forgot to add that there was also a very starnge low frequency sound, something like lighting sound played 10 times slower. I am happy that this earthquake has passed without doing any major damage, ant there is a beautiful rainbow on the sky now
MEAT=MURDER.

Quiet Storm

That is definately not normal... keep safe man.

Quiet Storm

National Witches Days of Prayer

Who?: Witches, Wiccans, Pagans, Druids, Root-Workers, Magickians,
Hoodooist, Conjurors, and Earth-Based Practitioners of all Traditions

We Wish to Invite You to Join Us in the National Witches Days of Prayer.

When: Starting October 31, 2004 through November 2, 2004

What?: "A Rolling Spell" that Spiritualists can participate in. The
spell will be performed on specific days and at specific times a day.
Spiritual Practitioners will choose from seven specific times a day so
that somewhere in the nation Practitioners will be performing spells at
the same time and conjuring energy for the national prayer.

Why?: This is a dark time in our nation´s history. There are forces in
the U.S. that are negatively affecting our civil liberties, peace from
wars, our rights to choose, our rights to vote, the environment of our
Mother Earth, our economic health, our choices in life partners,health
care, foreign relations and diplomacy, education of our children, our
religious choices and so much more. This is a chance for us to make a
difference. As things are going, we may not have another chance.

On August 28th and 29th marches began in New York against the Republican
Convention. We are asking that you join us to begin our own "Spiritual
March" to release the negative forces that are darkening our nation, and
to help us find balance once again. Our goal is to pray for "Divine
Spiritual Guidance" so that we choose "the right person to be President
of the United States" on November 2, 2004. This choice will not only
affect the people of the U.S. but it will also affect the people of the
world. The leader we choose here will also be the world leader. All
nations will depend on the choice that we make in November.

How?: Those who wish to participate in the prayer will start on the
date(s) of their choice between October 31st (Samhain) through November
2nd (Voting Day). Then they can choose the time period that is
convenient for them. They can choose between the seven time periods of:
6:15am; 8:30am;12:30pm; 3:00pm; 7:00pm; 9:00pm or 12:00midnight. This
will allow participants to be in sync with others in prayer and allow
the prayers to be in a continuous "rolling" sequence, time after time
and day after day. Practitioners can participate as often as they wish.
In other words: they may pray multiple times a day, and as many of the
three days that they wish.

Tools to Be Used: The given chant is all that is necessary to
participate. However, any Practical Magick such as: Root-workings,
Circles, Candle-workings(white for hope, green for prosperity, brown for
grounding the nation, gold for success, candles are highly recommended),
rituals, ritual tools of Practitioner´s tradition are welcome. We only
ask that:

1) The spell work is positive.
2) The spell will not be directed toward any specific individual or
group.
3) If a Practitioner truly knows who is best for the country it is not
necessary for a name to be mentioned. Give way to the judgment of the
Divine.
4) Participants will repeat the following chant at least 3 times as a
cohesive binder to make potent all spells casted:

On This Hour We Call Upon The Universal Power

***As Many We Speak in One True Voice
***United We Pray for the Nation´s Choice.

***Earth Rain Fire Wind
***Take Evil From Our Country, Let Peace and Prosperity In.

***Distinguish Between He Who is Man and Mouse
***Only The Best for Our Country May Reign Our Nation´s House.

***So Mote It Be

We sincerely hope that you join us in our first National Witches Days of
Prayer.

Adam

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Our goal is to pray for "Divine Spiritual Guidance" so that we choose "the right person to be President of the United States" on November 2, 2004.


They're still missing the point, methinks. [;)]

Eric g

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Originally posted by Adam

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Our goal is to pray for "Divine Spiritual Guidance" so that we choose "the right person to be President of the United States" on November 2, 2004.


They're still missing the point, methinks. [;)]




[:D][:D] That;s right... chosing between two "evils" never can produce the right person anyway
Death don't scare me, it's the dying that freaks me out

SuPeR_DeLuXe


no_leaf_clover

Agreed. [:D]

They should probably be praying for more people to wake up.
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

no_leaf_clover

Just to keep things in perspective of how cruel our government can be to us..

http://www.public-action.com/SkyWriter/WacoMuseum/

http://www.serendipity.li/waco.html

After atrocities like this, who could afford to be overly skeptical on issues like the governments involvement in 9/11, to the point where they simply ridicule those that believe there was involvement? It is not something that deserves mockery or biting sarcasm.

Look at the photo of the 2-year old child's remains. As those links will inform you, 12 children under the age of five were killed in the Waco Massacre, and 74 total. Obviously innocent people died. Yet what justice become of it? None, because our system had no justice to offer, and there is really no reason to believe they're any more just today. I think being skeptical at least requires you to be familiar with both sides of an argument. A lot of suspicious occurences have already been noted regarding 9/11 and the government. Maybe we should start to compile some of the evidence and evaluate it here?
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

Quiet Storm

Well, you do whatever you want, but I will only be posting latest and most siginificant developments.

Hey did you guy's hear about Haiti?

Jeanne´s death toll in Haiti may reach 2,000

GONAIVES, Haiti (AP) — Workers used dump trucks to empty more than 100 bodies into a 14-foot-deep hole on Wednesday — the first mass grave for the more than 1,070 flood victims of Tropical Storm Jeanne. Bystanders shrieked, held their noses against the stench and demanded that officials collect bodies in waterlogged fields.

The government late Wednesday said up to 1,250 people were still missing and that the death toll could rise to 2,000 people.
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Keep in mind that Jeane was a TROPICAL STORM when it hit Haiti. It makes me wonder about all the cover ups done about the death tolls in the latest cat 3 and cat 4 hurricane events in the US... I definately think there is a cover up. I think the death tolls are close to the number missing, and not the "official body count".

1,250 from a tropical storm? man that's alot of people...

Quiet Storm

Funny how this next 'incarnation' of Ivan (now a tropical storm) is expected to DIRECTLY hit Crawford Texas on Sunday, exactly where George Bush's ranch is...

Here's the link for the projected path:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ftp/graphics/AT09/refresh/AL0904W5+GIF/231148W5.gif

Quiet Storm

Wow this article has tons of information on the GWEN Towers, HAARP & Satellite GPS_EMF Control Grid.
http://www.mindcontrolforums.com/gwen-haarp-satellite-gps-emf-control-grid.htm

Its really detailed and explicit.

no_leaf_clover

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Well, you do whatever you want, but I will only be posting latest and most siginificant developments.


Might be a good idea to make another topic, if anybody else is interested in the idea.
What is the sound of no leaves cloving?

Palehorse

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Funny how this next 'incarnation' of Ivan (now a tropical storm) is expected to DIRECTLY hit Crawford Texas on Sunday, exactly where George Bush's ranch is...


Well I'll be damned... and I was *kidding* about the hammer of God smiting Republicans.

I'll tell the other three horsemen we're on in five.
Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."
    --Gospel of Thomas, saying 10

Aileron

You know, I understand most peoples hesitation concerning current trends of activity leaning to prophetic outcomes, but I dont understand why nobody outwordly is talking or discussing whether all these things happening; hurricanes/ floods/earthquakes/tornadoes, the wars, terrorism, political upheaval, economic degredation in the midst of global currency becoming a very real thing, signs of all kinds sometimes in our faces, sometimes just beneath the surface, global communication/information boom, recent religious queries and findings leading to deeper contemplation, are in fact signs of a coming apocaplypse.

Im sure most people living on the draft of the wind of change can see and smell it, but so many seem to either be denying these things have any meaning, or are just blind to them.

Theres nobody outthere (at least so far as I have heard) on the news or in the newspapers or magazines, asking people or just talking about the subject whether it is possible or not.

I mean, shouldnt it be one of the most obvious of topics?
We are living in a current midstream of time where these things are thought to be taking place and in my point of view, and I know many of you as well, they are!!
Its hard to deny whats happening, and I understand most people are just trying to deal with the situations as they come, but I guess I am just waiting for CNN headline news to switch from a broadcast and the newscaster asks, "Are we nearing the endtimes? Mr. Phil Patterson of Ohio has some interesting words to say on that, when we come back."


Sorry, its early for me and Im wandering in my head right now.
St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"

Quiet Storm

Yea, talk about the apocalypse has been left now for 'the fringe'.

I say in about a week or 2 I'll know exactly what position I'm in reguarding the Zhedhi Order and their works.

September has been all about getting prepared, in October excrement is *really* going to hit the fan and the people will begin to know it.

And there'd probably be leaks of info of upcoming events from now till October which I may run across...but I see things are really picking up. I wish it could all happen, in a day or something so there won't be that much waiting but well.. time is time, and there's nothing I can do about it but alter my perception of it.

Wait and see my freinds sooner or later excrement will definately be obvious. :)

Jenadots

Aileron, I think you are on to something.  I have begun to think the chaos in the weather is a reflection of the chaos within mankind right now.  Violent emotions leading to violent weather sort of thing.  I have not kept up with worldwide weather conditions too much except that I am aware of some extreme flooding in non-hurricane areas.  

Oddly enough, the midwestern USA has had a rare, very mild summer and early fall.  Winter could be something else again.  

I also notice a huge change in my current crop of 17 year old students from previous years.  450 seniors in my school and the whole staff agrees that we can't remember seeing such a large group of kids without the usual problems and behaviors seen in an inner city school.  They are a very sweet bunch and surprisingly optimistic.   There is something undefinable that is very right about them.  

They are much more self-aware and sure of who they are.  I wonder if this isn't the first of the Indigo Children passing through my school.  Except for the fact that I have also seen this year's freshman class which seems about as wild as 500 kids can get.  Maybe that is just puberty and they will start showing some of the same awareness in a year or so.  

I see the same thing in my 5 year old cousin.  He doesn't say much, but you look in his eyes and its like you can see the whole universe there.  Something is definitely going on and at a very deep level.

I am hoping that something is a wonderful change in human consciousness.  We certainly need it.

Quiet Storm

Oh yea, and the asteroid "Toutatis" will be making a very close approach next week, and it will be seen through telescopes. The path is 'unpredictable' to some scientists, and I dunno, there HAVE been leaks of supposed true information reguarding toutatis that it will actually come alot closer than what NASA has said. If it does, it can cause a 'panic'. There have been excercises being done by the US military called "Orbit Comet" since the year 2001 and twice every year since.

GEE WONDER WHY??

I wonder if Bush knows the exact place toutatis is going? Maybe it won't impact but cause enough concern for BUSH and NASA, being that Toutatis is allegedly so unpredictable to consider declaring martial law or drastically picking up safety measures.

Remember the October Surprise they have been talking about on picking up security measures 'drastically' starting on October 1st on to the elections? Well thats just next week as well.

[:O][:O][:O].....[:D][8)]

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TOUTATIS -THE EAGLE OF THE TOLTECS.
See its shape - the Eagle, the Tyrant of the Toltecs.
Some will enter Devolution as it takes them to Times consonant with their evolution.

   Circe.

Quiet Storm

Jenadots: I can relate totally. I have noticed that the people I encounter are now more 'aware' than the people I used to encounter, but then again, my perception does also tend to influence the joint unconscious of those around me.
Like for instance when I try to think of them as 'aware' or as conscious as I am, and I set that vibe and everything like that IS what is and afterwards the people I encounter tend to try and match that vibe as much as they do.

Quiet Storm

HYPERDIMENSIONAL HURRICANES
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hurricane1.htm

Great article!

BTW wtf is up with Ivan coming back for more and now going to hit texas. I saw 2 different paths for Ivan and some showed it backtracking and going back into the Gulf from the US, while others showed it making a turn and going over Florida and then go back into the gulf to go where it's headed at now.

And Jeane? whats up with that loop that it did eh? And now it's doing a "Frances" just going west and not turning up yet. Jeane stalled out in the Atlantic for days just "decided" where to move next and moving so slowly to the point of standstill , before decided to go directly west toward Florida where its going now.

Weird eh?

Quiet Storm

PROBLEMS WITH SITE: HACKED? Well, who is to say? But ALL subscriber names/passwords were removed early this morning. We just became aware of the situation at about 8:00 AM. We are currently dealing with re-entering as Earthlink does not provide a timely back up recovery system for the access file. This will take several hours perhaps as many as 4 or so as the interface for adding this information is pretty lame and slow. My apologies to subscribers.

www.halfpasthuman.com

Half Past Hacked: Web Bots Watching Iraq, Africa

Censorship is a dangerous thing. We note with interest that our web bot colleague´s site at www.halfpasthuman.com was hacked today. The subscribers list was destroyed - and interesting development because even webmasters don´t have access to the high level domain where access files live. His ISP is Earthlink for the HPH site.



The hack attack has us looking at the latest web bot run to figure out what´s in it that the PTB would just as soon people don´t know about. Here are some tidbits:

In the "Iraq Entity"

"The Iraq entity has a curious supporting base of [humility] as an aspect descriptor. This word is one of a small set of emotively high-value and long-impact, but low-intensity/low immediacy words. In this case, the attributes and cross linked aspects suggest that [humility] is being used not as a descriptor for the entity but rather for a movement/person within the entity. Further, this begins a series of linked aspects hanging off the [humility] lexical arm which are all focused on the month of October. These are all short term impacting lexical shifts which taken together suggest the time frame.



Within this lexical structure we find that it is

(advantageous/successful) to (attack) [with force/in numbers] even

though [great damage] (be done/will occur/shall happen/is

predictable) for (one´s own/ownership/possession)

[cities/houses/country/realm]. Apparently even though the

[mud/brick] of (one´s) [house] be (crushed) by [the feet of

neighbors/army], it will be/is being perceived as a positive thing

locally within the Iraq entity."



A new entity: Africa: Decay Low on the Mountain has emerged. But we have no idea what:

"Specifically, we find that most of the geographic

references are for [south] and [coast/coastal/estuarine]. The entity

arises as a result of change. Within this change we find that

[one/man/person/personality/motivator] (rouses/encourages/raises)

the [people/populace/masses] to [set right/repair/correct] the

[injustices/sins] of the past. That the [populace/masses] will

(march/walk/proceed) toward the [low hills] just [before/outside] the

[area/control] of the [mountain]. There they will

(meet/encounter/discover) the [winds/airs/fumes/respiration] of

(decay)."

Like most web bot reports, things get clear in the future, and our "watch typically begins up to 120-days before an event as it has consistently since the first reports in July 2001 presaged the events of 9/11. That said, we´ve definitely tuned up in our news scans, particularly southern coastal countries. Subscriber info at http://www.halfpasthuman.com/HPHSUBSCRIPTION_INFO.htm

http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

Palehorse

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Yea, talk about the apocalypse has been left now for 'the fringe'.



In some ways though, I'm not entirely sure that's such a bad thing.  Reason being, any mention of an apocolypse within the mainstream is going to validate the beliefs of several million Christian fundamentalists, and at that point there's no telling what they'd do.  All I know is that the Left Behind books are bestsellers for a reason -- they play on this group of people's deepest fears and deeply held religious beliefs.  If you light off that powder keg, we're going to have a lot of really panicked and not entirely rational people on our hands, on top of what ever *else* happens in the coming months.

I think a friend of my brother's is a pretty good (and rather disturbing) example of the average person I'm thinking of.  Not long ago I had a conversation with him when he asked me what I thought about Revelation and the apocolypse.  I gave him a bit of my thoughts on it, and then he gave me his: "I can't wait to grab the sword of the first angel who falls, and start kicking butt."  These people really do relish the thought of their God coming down to kill all the evil-doers and delivering them from this "evil" society.  Just give them an excuse to think that it's on, and I bet many will start trying to accomplish "God's work" -- and suddenly Muslim extremists won't be the only terrorists we'll have to worry about.

For my part, I know that the word "apocolypse" literally means "revealing," or "unveiling," and I believe that's exactly what's going to happen, possibly sooner than later.  The problem lies in how to get the word out to a large number of people (because I do believe everyone should have at least a *chance* to know the truth) without throwing mass amounts of already jittery people into a panic.

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I say in about a week or 2 I'll know exactly what position I'm in reguarding the Zhedhi Order and their works.


What leads you to believe this?  When I was emailing Oazaki a while back it was about some unrelated stuff, but I also asked him how things were going on the Zhedhi front, and he didn't answer that part.  As of now, I believe he's a pretty intelligent guy with possibly a good amount of knowledge of human nature and esoteric matters... but that's about as far as the evidence I've seen can take me at this point.  If he's wrong about his more dramatic predictions, then I'd probably say he was someone who aimed high and honestly gave his best shot to bringing these things about, but didn't end up being able to pull it off.  The other option is deliberate deception, but he doesn't come off that way to me, so that's my take on it.

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September has been all about getting prepared, in October excrement is *really* going to hit the fan and the people will begin to know it.


Yeah, I just hope the aforementioned feces doesn't involve "the big one" finally hitting my state.  And if it does, I hope I survive it.  I rather like my position of possibly being alive at the right time to have a front seat view of the apocolypse, and I'd like to keep it that way.  It'd really suck to get squished outta here before the *real* fun begins.  [:P]
Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."
    --Gospel of Thomas, saying 10

Aileron

Though I agree in some ways, and even understand why certain issues wouldnt be brought up for certain reasons, I cant understand why many mainstream means of communication havent even considered it though. Not all are concerned with how the public reacts, but rather ratings, even in such a dismal point at whence society begins to crumble, I still see newscasters and journalists and reporters trying their best to get or reveal the info thatll get'em that award or maybe that promotion or is just in the nature to keep pushing.

Im not stereotyping every mainstream, Im just saying many are like this. CBS I think is the only real time, such length has been strived to regain public image of the station. I dont even think its a big deal that Dan Rather reported on something that wasnt real. As long as he comes on and admits that, all is good, he and the entire company didnt need to make an issue of it and pull into question whether Rather will still report.

Getting distracted, sorry. Im just surprised.
I also think that many, although your right, there will be the edges that are crossed because of such a confirmation, will take it in stride.
Today I asked my client, who is a quadrapalegic, what he thinks of all these things happening. He said very non-chalant, "I think its the end of the world. T's pretty obvious."

He's a smart guy and doesnt seem to be very affected by the issue we discussed, its just what it is.

What I guess is that most people dont want to confirm such a thing. I mean, it is an issue that is "supposed" to affect the entire world to such an extent, that many will die, and that a majority of people would refuse it to the end, even when in the midst of it.

To me apocalypse also means "unvealing" or "revealing" and has for a long time, but I dont just associate that with every living soul awakening on a bright sunny day or without cataclysmic events occuring and no lives lost.
Basically to me it just represents the "biblical" end times occuring by means of certain events though not as key "biblical" meaning behind them all, leading to a rather different end result than those being saved by Jesus, and God, but more a representation of mankind facing itself and only a certain amount of people coming out fully aware of human heritage and meaning in the universe, as well as full human potential.

I guess I just see all the prophecies in the worlds history about these certain times as being the "end times" as just an outline of what is to come, not to be taken literally, at least not without justification.


Damn, I just want someone who is in a high up position to verify that this is what they think.

Here is a question. If Bush is such a straightshootin christian, wouldnt he believe that all these events in the time we are in, are the signs of the "biblical apocalypse, and if so, wouldnt that mean that he is fully aware of his actions from these moments, and what could occur from them? Wouldnt he be aware that he is almost creating an antichrist like persona?

Hmmmmm.....
St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"

Jenadots

And what if the October Surprise is:  Life goes on.

Or it might just be that due to the hurricane damages, no one will be able to vote in the election in Florida.  And considering the problems they had putting little holes in cards last time, that might not necessarily be a bad thing. [;)]

Besides, all really crooked elections belong up here in Chicago where we vote early and often, and then our dead relatives get to vote too.  Chicago needs to reclaim its reputation as the election stealing capital of the country.  Illinois has been feeling ignored.....boo-hoo.[:(]

The surprise may be no surprise.  At this point anything that does happen will be called "The October Surprise" and attributed to some big conspiracy by the anonymous "they" - whomever "they" are supposed to be.

I wouldn't be too eager to see the end of the world order or life as we know it or the chaos and mayhem that would result from that kind of collapse.  It may sound all romantic and heroic and just and fair....but just look at the places in the world where such collapses have occurred.  Not a pretty sight and not easy to survive.  Panic and the brutality that comes from desperation becomes the order of the day.  And who among us can honestly say, in their deepest of hearts, that we would not be as savage as the next person in fighting for food and water and whatever it takes to survive?  

I hope that no one here becomes so obsessed with what disasters and "surprises" might come tomorrow that anyone forgets the beauty of today and the life's breath that is within in each moment of today.

Peace....JD

Palehorse

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And what if the October Surprise is: Life goes on.


Y'know, as often as you try to downplay the idea that something rather significant and unusual may indeed be going on in the world, I think you have an inkling that there might be something to all this after all.  Otherwise, what interest would you have in posting regularly in this and all related threads?  On the other hand, I think that even most of us who think there might be, also allow for the possibility that there *won't* be any huge event, transition, apocolypse, whatever, in the near future.  At the most basic level we're all pretty similar -- regular people living in turbulent and potentially dangerous times, where the future is uncertain.  We're all looking for answers, and we'd all like some way to assure ourselves that everything is going to be okay.  No offense intended; just some observations on my part.

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I wouldn't be too eager to see the end of the world order or life as we know it or the chaos and mayhem that would result from that kind of collapse. It may sound all romantic and heroic and just and fair....but just look at the places in the world where such collapses have occurred. Not a pretty sight and not easy to survive. Panic and the brutality that comes from desperation becomes the order of the day. And who among us can honestly say, in their deepest of hearts, that we would not be as savage as the next person in fighting for food and water and whatever it takes to survive?


Don't get me wrong, I don't exactly delight in the idea of widespread death and destruction myself.  However, if we look at it another way, the system by which the world is being run is *already* causing widespread death and destruction on an unprecedented scale.  As history has taught us, it often does take some sort of major upheaval to shake "the powers that be" from their foundations, and yes, there are usually casualties... but how many more casualties and how much more suffering would there be if those powers were allowed to continue on?  From that perspective, I'd say that a relatively short period of cataclysm with a light at the end of the tunnel is preferable to an indefinite period of darkness and oppression.  Lest I be considered hypocritical, I'll also say that if I knew such a time was coming, but that my own life would have to be lost in the transition to a better future, I would be more than willing to give it up, especially considering how transitory human life is to begin with.  The only thing that *really* bothers me at this point is not death, but rather the uncertainty of it all.

That said, if it came down to a fight for survival, I don't think any of us could say for sure what we'd do.  All I can say is that if it comes down to that, I hope I'm at a point in my spiritual development where I have the strength and resolve to stay true to my ideals regardless of what may come.  I would personally rather give away that last bit of food and water and face death, rather than being reduced to fighting my fellow human beings to the death like an animal for scraps... but of course it's easy to say that *now.*

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I hope that no one here becomes so obsessed with what disasters and "surprises" might come tomorrow that anyone forgets the beauty of today and the life's breath that is within in each moment of today.


Good thoughts.

Jesus said, "I have cast fire upon the world, and look, I'm guarding it until it blazes."
    --Gospel of Thomas, saying 10

Aileron

St. Augustine - "Don't you believe that there is in man a deep so profound as to be hidden even to him in whom it is?"