I still can't have any OBE

Georgep · August 08, 2012, 22:07:07

Quote from: todd421757 on August 08, 2012, 20:41:21
I believe it is a loss of will intensity that causes many projectionists to lose the ability to manipulate energy in their energy bodies. If you can get back your ability to feel energy, then you should be able to eventually have a classic OBE.

If you are not able to feel energy anymore, then you should focus on lucid dreaming techniques instead.

I think that this is my problem todd.

Also, I'm trying to have a lucid dream, but I didn't have one yet.

Quote from: Bedeekin on August 08, 2012, 21:20:27
A job or something that's causing you to be tired or are you staying up really late... that sort of thing?

Hmm, not sure. Im sleeping the same time like in the past and I'm not getting so tired.

Thank you for your kind answers

Xanth · August 08, 2012, 22:20:06

Quote from: Georgep on August 08, 2012, 22:07:07
I think that this is my problem todd.

Also, I'm trying to have a lucid dream, but I didn't have one yet.

It's not your problem.

Vibrations aren't something you "require" in order to project.

What you need to do is stop worrying about what you think you need... and just project with whatever you get.

Georgep · October 22, 2012, 14:56:03

After sooooo much time, hello again!

Yesterday, I think that I had a... "semi"-exit.

I had to try to OBE for 2-3, or maybe more, months because I can't find time to try nowadays and when I have some I'm so exhausted that I fall asleep, but yesterday, while I was sleeping I ...woke up. The first thing I remember seeing was me, lying in a room of my house. Everything was in a blue tint. I felt like I was getting out of my body. I was telling me "push, push forward" and every time I was thinking this, I was getting more and more "out of my body", but, suddenly, I told to myself "OK, stop now. Go to get some sleep again" and then I opened my eyes and it was like I got from one place to another. I felt like that I have been "teleported".

Do you think that it was some kind of "exit" or it was just my imagination-dream?

Thanks!

NoY · October 22, 2012, 15:43:54

it does sound like your getting somewhere now well done keep it up

:NoY:

Georgep · January 07, 2013, 19:05:18

After many months, hello again!

I still didnt have any success and I found this: http://store.sleepwithremee.com/
Does anyone of you know if this product actually works?

Thanks in advance!

Xanth · January 08, 2013, 20:59:12

Quote from: Georgep on January 07, 2013, 19:05:18
After many months, hello again!

I still didnt have any success and I found this: http://store.sleepwithremee.com/
Does anyone of you know if this product actually works?

Thanks in advance!

Probably not.

Save your money... and keep practicing.

You'll figure it out on your own eventually.

Astralsuzy · January 08, 2013, 23:48:13

I agree with Xanth. Practice meditating and tell yourself everyday that you can ap as long as it takes. Everyone else can so you can too. Keep saying it even if you do not ap. When you have not ap or have not ap in a long time, you start to think you cannot ap. If you think you cannot ap, ap becomes a lot harder to do.

Georgep · January 12, 2013, 04:52:05

OK! Thanks for your opinion Xanth and Astralsuzy.

And for today, I have good news.

3 days ago, I watched this video on how to relax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_frSh_EQU8
I did what it says and laid on my bed. I quickly fall asleep but after some time my eyes opened and started to blink. As they were blinking the room was turning blue so... I could see in the dark! My ears started to make buzzing noises and at my left ear I felt that someone was talking to me. Then, I felt that I was getting out but I got scared of listening to my left ear and open my eyes. Then, the room turned black again and my body was heavy.

Oh! And something I forgot to mention. While I was on my bed, before trying to AP I told "Tonight you are going to have a lucid dream!" and... voila! Haha.

Astralsuzy · January 12, 2013, 13:43:44

That is really good to hear. I am glad it is working for you. It is a shame you got scared. The more experience you get the easier it will get for you.

Xanth · January 13, 2013, 01:02:19

Yup, that's an excellent start.

Just work on focusing on relaxing 100%... the more you focus on that, the more your attention will be drawn away from the physical.

That's all projection is: focusing away from the physical.

M4RT1N · January 13, 2013, 17:01:22

Quote from: Xanth on January 13, 2013, 01:02:19
Yup, that's an excellent start.

Just work on focusing on relaxing 100%... the more you focus on that, the more your attention will be drawn away from the physical.

That's all projection is: focusing away from the physical.

what do you mean by focusing on relaxing, if i focus on my body relaxing then i am paying attention to the physical.

also if i just keep repeating one word and don't do anything else is that a good way to reach SP ?

Xanth · January 13, 2013, 17:50:03

Quote from: M4RT1N on January 13, 2013, 17:01:22
what do you mean by focusing on relaxing, if i focus on my body relaxing then i am paying attention to the physical.

I know this is going to sound strange and counter productive... and you might not even understand what I mean, BUT...

Focus on relaxing, and not focus on relaxing the body.

Quotealso if i just keep repeating one word and don't do anything else is that a good way to reach SP ?

Sure, that's fine. You just need to focus completely on that act.

Lionheart · January 13, 2013, 17:56:23

Quote from: M4RT1N on January 13, 2013, 17:01:22
what do you mean by focusing on relaxing, if i focus on my body relaxing then i am paying attention to the physical.

also if i just keep repeating one word and don't do anything else is that a good way to reach SP ?

Progressive Relaxation is the act of relaxing the physical body.

When you turn inner, you relax everything else!

You turn inner when you lose all focus on your physical body.

A Mantra is a great "tool" to help you turn inner.

Xanth · January 13, 2013, 19:13:04

Quote from: Lionheart on January 13, 2013, 17:56:23
Progressive Relaxation is the act of relaxing the physical body.

When you turn inner, you relax everything else!

You turn inner when you lose all focus on your physical body.

A Mantra is a great "tool" to help you turn inner.

Thank you Lionheart, that's a great way to describe it!

Georgep · March 13, 2013, 14:35:58

I DID IT. Or at least, I think that I did it.

It was 2 am, yesterday night. I was very tired. I watched TV for 15 mins and then put on the "Auto Close" function to automatically close the TV after one hour. I layed on my stomach and told to my self "tonight you wont try to AP. You will just go to sleep and if you accidentaly AP, it will be just ok. Tonight, you just need to sleep 'cause you are tired." and put my second pillow on my eyes to hide the lightening from the TV. Then I woke up at 2:30 and I realized what happened!

The story:
I "woke" up. It was dark. I remember feeling many vibrations in all of my body and telling myself "OH, ITS HAPPENING! Dont let it go away". Then, I thought "think to elevate" but nothing happened and, tired of having one more failed AP I tried to lift up my body with my hands (like having push-ups, I cant describe it) and then I got up in the air! I was getting higher and higher. Then I tried to "fly" but I was feeling that I couldn't control my body and it was going where it wanted to go. After some time, I saw a bright light at my "right" eye. Maybe it was the TV? Who knows? The last think I saw, it was me, in a room (probably my room) and many toys around it. Thats the only thing that makes me think that it was a LD.
That was all of it. Then I woke up and my left ear was buzzing.

Do you think it was a AP or a lucid Dream?

Astralzombie · March 13, 2013, 14:44:15

This sounds like the real McCoy to me. There is really not much difference between the two IMO. From the length of this thread, it seems like you've been struggling for a while. And when you finally surrendered, it happens!!

LionHeart would be proud.

Congrats. Prepare yourself. Usually knowing that you can actually achieve one, makes it sooooo much easier.
It becomes the difference from believing to just knowing.

Georgep · March 13, 2013, 14:49:37

Thank you very much for your response.

I hope that I'll have more experiences like this because it seems that it is something wonderful!

Szaxx · March 13, 2013, 15:07:32

In a LD if you wanted to fly around you would have easily.
Its the real deal, you've tried and tried, the not trying made it happen. It indicates you've tried too hard.
You done it and will do it again. The movements take a bit of getting used to. It's not a physical thing now, its your thoughts that count. Know that you can move around expecting to and you'll be fine.
Enjoy it.

tryingtoobe · March 13, 2013, 17:33:47

congratulations hopefully i will have same sucsess as you soon

Lionheart · March 13, 2013, 19:00:23

Congratulations George!

It's amazing how good "reverse psychology" works. "tonight you won't try to AP" told yourself you are ready to experience it.

Now you just have to learn not to get so excited when it's happening and just ALLOW it occur and see where it leads.

Except it for what it is and what occurred, don't second guess it!

LD, real time projection, just know that whatever it was, you were fully conscious for it and that deserves a lot of credit!

Georgep · March 16, 2013, 08:18:58

I did it again!

Basically, the only thing i remember is that I saw me getting out like the other time. I don't remember anything else, only this.

And I did it with the same method as the other time. Layed down, told my self "it would be nice if you AP" and voila.

ChopstickFox · March 16, 2013, 10:15:39

Congratulations! It's amazing what little tweaks to how we think can produce awesome results. In a way it kind of feels like a slap in the face. But a good slap in the face

Astralsuzy · March 16, 2013, 17:04:35

That is great. I am happy for you.

Georgep · December 12, 2017, 16:15:16

the "just relaxing-just sitting there" method. Sitting still, trying not to think (that's difficult to me ), not swallowing e.t.c. e.t.c.
listening to binaural beats (I have only used one binaural beat file) - I can say that it helped me reach a relaxation stage very easily (feeling body numb e.t.c.) - but just this
phasing. Yes. Phasing. And I think that is the only method that it will may work for me.

I lay down, take some deep breaths and try to relax my whole body
After some time, I may feel my body getting numb - careful: only numb. I can still move my arm or head if I want to - I never was able to reach SP. I was always able to move my body if I wanted it.

I still sit there, and later my brain will make up some stories (without me trying to induce them - sometimes they are really f***d up... like "how did I thought of that" ) - or I'll see some "bright" waves - or some colors for a second - but the stories always win. Is this my "subconcious thinking"?
Now, I may hear something. Oh, okay. It was just some noise from the road, outside. Time to concentrate again to that blackness in front of my eyes. Oh, some f__d_up_stories_made-from-my-brain again.
Still sitting there.

I "wake up", maybe 20-30 minutes later and think of "hey, what happened". I feel my body numb. I'm trying to concentrate to that blackness again.
I feel like I'm elevating. But not too much. I just feel that, I'm getting higher for just some inches (maybe 7-8 inches...).

PhaPriSpa · December 12, 2017, 18:10:53

Quote from: Georgep on December 12, 2017, 16:15:16
Let me necropost this thread of mine

So, some months ago, I have started again the... trip to a successful OBE.

...

And what I'd like to add to all of the above, is that at my last try, when I "woke up" and thought of "what happened again", I felt like my head was trying to "get out". I can't really describe it.

But I'm still there. Stuck.

What do you think of all this?
What do you may think that I have to "touch up"?

If that "fell asleep and woke up 20-30 minutes later" happens to me again, what do you think that I should do?

Thanks!

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