"Guardian" are you here???

shaman · October 08, 2003, 08:19:53

Leyla,

Was the man dressed all in black??? He had a scar in his palm, did he have 2 smaller scars on the other side of his hand??

I would expect your guardian angel to be either native american or russian, that is: someone from your ancestors, family, as you mentioned to me in a previous posting native american and russian. Though he could be just a friend visiting you for a short while (he would not be your Main Guardian Angel - the one who stays with you all your life, but rather one that appears at a period of your life for a short time).

It happened to me that I knew things about people but it was only a little bit of information at a time, such as congradulating a colleague who got a new job when he himself learned about it only 30min before and none else knew..., or sensing someone is about to die (mainly family people),... but nothing like your big guy.

And by the way, you have the most wonderfull, amazing, surprizing postings on the forum! I always end up reading your postings, they are very interesting and intriguing!

GhostRider · October 08, 2003, 13:08:18

And all this is going on right here in the good-ole'-Houston area...hmmm...?
While I understand if you are hesitant about phoning this man, I would think that if he got beside your bedroom at night ONCE, he can do it again and again and again... And you don't know if he hasn't been in your apartment/house before that point or since that incident happened. He could be visiting once or twice a week, standing off in a corner or beside your bed and just calmly looking down with his big, psychic eyes at you... you never know.

So it would appear to me that you have but ONE course of action, flush him out.
Now, there have been some good suggestions on how to do that here already and having your friend talk to him was one way. Another would be to phone him from a payphone, and keep it at that venue till you get to know him better. Don't invite him home just yet...you never know what he's capable of, since the most dangerous men are usually the most charming and emotionally disarming gentlemen you'll ever know. And if his motives are of a purer sort than taking the slow and steady approach will just let you get to know him better. On terrain that's more of your choosing than his...

Good luck and keep us posted.

dino333 · October 08, 2003, 16:01:02

This very freaky. My advise, try setting up some astral barriers and night. If you call him, ask him questions. A lot of questions. If he is your guardian, he shouldn't mind. If he asks you a question, try not to answer it too directly. Good Luck!!

Hephaestus · October 08, 2003, 17:14:23

I think we are missing an extremely large part of the puzzle here.

What was this recurring nightmare you kept getting before this man approached you? what was it about and what happened in it? (of course if you dont wish to say that is ok [

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Perhaps the nightmare was/is a higher self warning call that this guy shouldnt be trusted? he told you how to get rid of it, 2 possible reasons, (1) he's a nice guy or (2) he's stamping out you higher self warning call.

Is there even the slightest chance he is responsible for this recurring nightmare? seems rather coincidental you have this recurring nightmare then he shows up telling you all about it. hmm?

Leyla · October 08, 2003, 23:19:03

Okay, I'm going to answer these in order.

>He had a scar in his palm, did he have 2 smaller scars on the other >side of his hand??

The shot was through the middle finger of his hand, at the base. No I did not see the other side.

>He could be visiting once or twice a week, standing off in a corner >or beside your bed and just calmly looking down with his big, >psychic eyes at you... you never know.

Stop that! You're freaking me out.
Again I don't know if this is connected or not, but two nights before I did get out of body, and an angelic thing showed up. For some reason it threw itself over me, across my back. I have had back pain for a long time and believe it might have been trying to help.
The next night I woke up to the nightmare and drove to work with the song "I'm calling on angels" cranked up full blast in my car because I was depressed about it. Enter "Guardian."

>Is there even the slightest chance he is responsible for this >recurring nightmare? seems rather coincidental you have this >recurring nightmare then he shows up telling you all about it. hmm?

No way in hell. The nightmare is a flashback from a traumatic incident in my childhood.

cainam_nazier · October 09, 2003, 01:57:01

There is one thing that people keep bringing up that I think is getting over looked. The "Guardian" idea.

Personally I believe that there is no way that he, being a physically real person, can be your own personal guardian like some are thinking. It is more like he is "A Guardian" not "Your specific guardian". The freakiness of the situation is comming from people assigning the metaphysical guardian qualities to a physical person. It just doesn't seem to work that way in my eyes.

Okay so he's "A Guardian"...The question should be a guardian of what? The buisness card would suggest that he gave himself this title or believes himself to be one of some kind. The question is weather or not he has a guardian mentallity. This being that ultimately the next step is yours and that he will not pursue the issue any further than you wish to.

If that is the case I would equate him to being much like a sign post that you are looking at the back of. You "could" go around and see what the sign says or you could continue about your day....In the end sign post doesn't really care if you read it or not. But the information is there should you want it.

Hephaestus · October 09, 2003, 11:12:02

quote:
Originally posted by Leyla

>Is there even the slightest chance he is responsible for this >recurring nightmare? seems rather coincidental you have this >recurring nightmare then he shows up telling you all about it. hmm?

No way in hell. The nightmare is a flashback from a traumatic incident in my childhood.

Hate to say it but if he's able to psychically tap into your memories then I dont see why he couldnt be responsible for the nightmare.
I get a bad vibe about this guy.

Leyla · October 09, 2003, 22:38:27

>Hate to say it but if he's able to psychically tap into your >memories then I dont see why he couldnt be responsible for the >nightmare.

*sigh* I've had these nightmares since I was a child. For about 20 years now. He was probably a kid then himself, without the desire/ability to torment some woman he planned on running into two decades into the future. Seems like a whole lot of effort for a few minutes of conversation. Please give this idea up. You're beating a dead horse.

And you sound like one of those witch hunters. The old hag was able to cure someones illness with her knowledge of herb lore, so that "proves" she must have caused the illness with her witchcraft. Burn her! Burn her!

>I get a bad vibe about this guy

You've never met him.

I'm going to have to ask you to lay off, and quit grinding on this paranoid theory. The man is not the spawn of satan.

Don't you realize that we scare the excrement out of people too??? With our weird abilities? Not long ago they'd have burned you too, and me and all of us! Just because the man has powers I haven't run into before I can't go assuming he's using them for evil! One of the "muggels" could easily say the same of me. And they would be wrong.

Tao · October 10, 2003, 01:56:11

Nice Leyla - i would meet him again and see what he wants...
Well - if he is from a gouverment agency - that`s cool

If he is evil.. - he is not ! - if he is evil and that powerfull - more weird things would have happened until now - bad things for you - not scare you but harm you - of course he could be teasing

If he is an Angel - well that`s great and maybe not that great - because think about it - why the need of an Angel - that means something REALLY REALLY BAD is about to happen and he is there to try to stop it.. But if he is evil and that powerfull that means something REALLY REALYY GOOD is about to happen and he is there to try to stop it..

So be carefull of what you wish this man to be !
Mihai

Tombo · October 10, 2003, 02:49:18

I would call back before theories go hand of hand without any real proof! If he met you he can meet you again if he knows so much about you he'll find out were you live with no problem. So thats obviously not what he wants. He wants you to contact him. Once you call him you'll see what he wants, then you'll have a much better chance to figure out whats going on. I'll would certainly inform some people close to you just in case he's not an angel or something.

GhostRider · October 10, 2003, 12:31:11

Like I said earlier, flush him out. Waiting is just gonna make you more anxious and nervous. There's a 50/50 chance he'll hurt you. If you survive and thrive within his friendship than keep us posted. Other than that, asking more questions isn't gonna solve things, you've asked enough, and enough answers have been offered here for you to mull over almost all the possibilities. Which means you are prepared, you are ready, and now the only question is, are you able...? Keep us posted how the meeting goes.

Squeek · October 10, 2003, 12:58:15

Reading this whole topic made me think really hard on what I would do if the same were to happen to me. I came to these conclusions.

1. I do not think the man will try to meet you in person again, meet you here, or call you. The situation I picture here is from The Matrix (Aren't they all!) Morpheus calls Neo and tells him enough to prove that there is a Morpheus out there, and he can help. He doesn't force Neo to meet him at all, it was Neo himself who had to put forth the effort. Look what it did for him []

2. I do not think the man is there to hurt you. This goes with my innocent until proven guilty outlook on life.

3. I think you should call him. For one, it shows that you believed him enough to call him. Two... what harm can he do over a phone? Three, if after the call you never want to talk to him again and you tell him, but still think he will want to talk to you, we have these little happy thingies called restraining orders. []

I hope you make the best decision!

~Squeek

Hephaestus · October 10, 2003, 13:54:16

quote:
Originally posted by Leyla

>Hate to say it but if he's able to psychically tap into your >memories then I dont see why he couldnt be responsible for the >nightmare.

*sigh* I've had these nightmares since I was a child. For about 20 years now. He was probably a kid then himself, without the desire/ability to torment some woman he planned on running into two decades into the future. Seems like a whole lot of effort for a few minutes of conversation. Please give this idea up. You're beating a dead horse.

And you sound like one of those witch hunters. The old hag was able to cure someones illness with her knowledge of herb lore, so that "proves" she must have caused the illness with her witchcraft. Burn her! Burn her!

>I get a bad vibe about this guy

You've never met him.

I'm going to have to ask you to lay off, and quit grinding on this paranoid theory. The man is not the spawn of satan.

Don't you realize that we scare the excrement out of people too??? With our weird abilities? Not long ago they'd have burned you too, and me and all of us! Just because the man has powers I haven't run into before I can't go assuming he's using them for evil! One of the "muggels" could easily say the same of me. And they would be wrong.

Fine by me, go and have a cup of tea and a bun with the guy then, no skin off my nose. [|)]

Tisha · October 10, 2003, 17:14:26

Leyla, Cainam is the only person, I think, who has come even CLOSE to asking you the most important question of all: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

TheLunatic · October 10, 2003, 19:51:51

quote:
Originally posted by Tisha

Leyla, Cainam is the only person, I think, who has come even CLOSE to asking you the most important question of all: WHAT DO YOU WANT?

I honestly think that she only has one option and that she already knows what she needs to do.

electricdreamer · October 10, 2003, 20:44:26

Wow, that is so scarey-I would do a bit of reverse back ground checking on the guy-a good place to start is the reverse phone directory and than government websites-if you are scared..

Leyla · October 12, 2003, 04:26:41

Done. I've called him and we're meeting tomorrow night.

I've arranged for us to be in a public place, and I'll be there with a male friend of mine.

I'll keep you posted.

Tao · October 12, 2003, 06:13:40

WOw - that`s great - i can`t wait to read what will happen

I`m pretty sure it`s nothing bad - maybe an AP`er who likes you

LOL,
Mihai

Hephaestus · October 12, 2003, 07:54:36

quote:
Originally posted by Leyla

I'll keep you posted.

If you make it back alive.

lullabi · October 12, 2003, 07:58:41

eep..

GhostRider · October 12, 2003, 11:45:45

Leyla... "got me on my knees, LEYLA! I'm begging darling please, LEYLA!" Lol! Sorry, couldn't help myself, lol!

Good luck and do keep us posted. I'm here in Houston too if you need to p.m. anyone...this is cool, it probably will work out. Got a good feeling about it. Normally, I wouldn't, this situation reads to sketchy to trust, but my gut-feeling is is that it's an A-OK situation. Again, good luck and keep us posted Leyla... "I'm begging darling please, LEYLA!"[

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GhostRider · October 13, 2003, 20:38:58

I wonder if Leyla's allright?

Nay · October 13, 2003, 20:48:33

AND THESE ARE THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES....[:O]

Ceriel N · October 14, 2003, 01:47:05

quote:
Originally posted by Leyla - 12 October 2003 : 11:26:41

I've called him and we're meeting tomorrow night.

14 October 2003 now...

*Is worried about a person he's never known or talked to before.

Hephaestus · October 14, 2003, 10:35:54

Im sure shes ok, I mean, she was certainly adament I was wrong when I said he shouldnt be at all trusted.
Im sure she knew what she was doing when she met him, and im sure the male friend of hers was enough precaution.

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