Souly for Retrievals!

[Erik]

Ah, a video where someone is hinting that we are one and that life is an illusion.
I get a lot of clues pointing to that direction lately. First thought it had to do
with algorithmics, but some sources like Astralpulse are algorithmic independent.
At first I thought oneness is a kind of boring. The guy in the video and other sources
say that they can understand this but it isn't the case. Like that!

[Tak]

I love this video! I'm moved by the way this man expresses himself. Thanks for sharing!

At this moment I have some doubts about "The Source" as I understand, especially from Monroe's latest book, we all have our Primary Essence Focus, our particular Source, which projects into countless universes and realities of different types, beings (us/alternate/parallel lives) to experiment and return with the knowledge acquired. Now I don't understand if when people talk about The Source, it is this same thing or another "larger Source" from which the Primary Essence Focus arises. I don't understand if when people refer to the Source, it is the particular one, or the Totality. As I understood from Monroe's last book, everything would extend to macrocosmic scales.

I hope I made myself understood. Sorry for asking this question in the Retrievals thread, I hope to read more soon! 

Thank you,
Greetings!

[LightBeam]

I don't understand if when people refer to the Source, it is the particular one, or the Totality.

hi Tak, for me personally, when I refer to the Source, I mean All That Is = God. The totality. But I know that I have larger self or higher self which is on a smaller scale, but it's different from your higher self. Both have their individuality so to speak with its array of characters and experiences. Then we drill down further to characters. I think the levels are so many and can be labeled in various manners, but the Source to me is the total oneness, the source of all from which all consciousness on individualized levels of all scales sprung. The separation to all these down levels and scales are a matter of perception. I wouldn't call them illusions though. I really don't like the word illusion. If something is perceived as real, then it is real to the perceiver. Now, the perceiver may not be aware that they can shift their perception/beliefs and start perceiving something else. They may have posed restrictions on purpose, but that's another topic. As we speak all of us and everything that ever exists are parts of the Source but at the same time all perceiving separation. The degree of awareness of the larger scales of ourselves all the way to the source depends on our individualized journeys.

[Tak]

hi Tak, for me personally, when I refer to the Source, I mean All That Is = God. The totality. But I know that I have larger self or higher self which is on a smaller scale, but it's different from your higher self. Both have their individuality so to speak with its array of characters and experiences. Then we drill down further to characters. I think the levels are so many and can be labeled in various manners, but the Source to me is the total oneness, the source of all from which all consciousness on individualized levels of all scales sprung. The separation to all these down levels and scales are a matter of perception. I wouldn't call them illusions though. I really don't like the word illusion. If something is perceived as real, then it is real to the perceiver. Now, the perceiver may not be aware that they can shift their perception/beliefs and start perceiving something else. They may have posed restrictions on purpose, but that's another topic. As we speak all of us and everything that ever exists are parts of the Source but at the same time all perceiving separation. The degree of awareness of the larger scales of ourselves all the way to the source depends on our individualized journeys.

Thank you very much Lightbeam, very well explained!    It's clearer now...I suppose it all depends on the perceiver's own experience, and on what scale they perceived that, how open to the experience they was and to what extent the Ego disintegrated to merge into that Unity. 

[Lumaza]

Thank you very much Lightbeam, very well explained!    It's clearer now...I suppose it all depends on the perceiver's own experience, and on what scale they perceived that, how open to the experience they was and to what extent the Ego disintegrated to merge into that Unity.

Yes, you really need to "check those boxes", especially the "ego" one. You need to remain "neutral" and in "observer mode" to be able to experience those deeper things.

 It's funny. I have been actively, consciously experiencing the non-physical realms for years now and not once can I say that I ever looked for "Source". I just knew it was there. I learned early on to in this practice to "allow" things to occur, instead of attempting to "direct" them. I have had experiences into this area of pure white realm of pure bliss. I didn't attempt to go there. It was just shown to me! 

 I hear so many times people here on the Pulse how people seem to think they need to have a OBE when they are already in a non-physical realm. If you ended up where you did, there must be a purpose for that. Seek out that purpose! This is especially true in Dreams. Even the "Void" has it's own lessons to teach!   

[Volgerle]

Retrieval Of A Lawyer From A 'Confined' Space (Wall / File Cabinet)

Date: 31-Jul-2024

Account

I use the Wake-Back-To-Bed strategy after a very long time and it is a success (so I really should do this more often). After several attempts I get lucid in a municipal area finding myself in a city (more of a small town) at daylight. No person in sight. I start walking to search for a retrievee remembering my task of doing retrievals. While I am searching I do not miss the opportunity to complain and 'scold' my invisible guide(s) for wasting my limited ludicity-time by not getting me directly to the place I should be.

After a short while I walk past a local cemetery. I do not remember if I entered the graveyard but suddenly get the image of a younger woman with dark hair looking at me and saying 'I have a gun and I shoot!'. It is not certain if she was threatening me directly or if her words were directed at me at all. The vision vanishes and I move on.

Then I am in a house, still demanding to be shown the retrievee. Then I see to my left on a table a kind small model of another house but it is in ruins and it seems somehow burnt down or exploded. I even see it as a kind of animated form, a 'hologram' of  a house rising up and then falling or burning down again, like it was a movie on a loop.

Then I enter in a kind of office room. To the left is a kind of wall cabinet that is huge. I get the feeling it is or was for keeping files. However as the door opens I see a woman inside. I identify her as the same women from before but now with blonde hair and a bit older (middle-aged, 40-50 years maybe).

I then notice that she has no gun this time but still seems somewhat hostile towards me, or at least cold and distant. I also realise the presence of a guide. He is waiting in the corridor leading to the room and not visible to the lady who is still standing (hiding) in this wardrobe or cabinet in that room. He is dressed in white like a doctor or a paramedic while I notice about myself that I am also clad in white.

Then he tells me (whispering into the room): 'Take care what you say, she is a lawyer'. So I interpret this as a recommendation that I need to carefully weigh my words since these professional law people reading all the legal texts might be pedantic and fussy with anything you say or just be overcritical in general.

Knowing this now I face her and start to talk. I do not remember exactly what was being said. Maybe I asked her what she is doing there but also remember I said something along the lines of 'violence is never a solution' (referring to the vision with the gun).

She is seemingly recognising me as a professional of the medical kind due to my attire. I also seem to have somehow conveyed to her the impression that I am not here to harm her but to help. There also seems to be the notion of a 'psychological' or 'psychiatric' problem (also since she is not hurt physically). Maybe that is why she then asked me this question: 'So are you or is there any professional (psychiatrist?) around to help?'.

Immediately I jump at the chance. 'Yes, here is Mr [invented a name] and he is a specialised doctor who can help you with your problem'. The guide then enters the room. I notice that he is actually crawling because suddenly it looks like the entire room was even more confined now with a lowered ceiling, I also seem to be crouched now. He (still young and shining in his white attire, with long dark hair, dressed as a doctor) starts talking to her, smiling and asking questions.

Unfortunately I do not remember any of their 'consultation'. I try to stay anchored in the scene looking at my hands as a technique for stabilizing myself. After a while however I know it is futile and I slowly fade out of the room entirely. Since the handover worked and the 'doctor' guide was now taking care of her I do so with a good feeling. I wake up immediately to take notes.

Analysis

Most of the time the scenes were bizarre and dream-like for me. So I conclude that this was the enclosed and private dream-space of the retrievee (in Focus 22), at least after I entered the 'house'.

I don't know why my first impression when waking up was that this lady actually had shot herself (or was shot?). I discarded the suicide or murder version leaving it as one possibility now. Maybe the shown 'hologram' of a burnt down, collapsed or exploded house could also be an explanation but then the gun does not make sense anymore. Maybe she died in a house being bombed in a war or terror attack or it was just a home-related accident?

I opted for 'lawyer' in the account, but the guide actually used the word 'Juristin' for her, which is translatable as 'female jurist' in English. So the most likely case is she was indeed an attorney but also could have been a legal counsel or judge. However, that does not change my assessment regarding the situation and her personality.

The gun and her being a 'jurist' as well as her strange and comical dwelling in the file cabinet could also be a metaphorical expression of her being so overcritical with information and express her data-driven rationality. This in turn might be a contributing factor to her self-isolation after her (violent?) death. Maybe her job (and life) as a very rational person also seems to point out her materialistic and atheistic views keeping her from breaking out of her 'mind prison' now. Many recently deceased people cling to their lives and even job lives after death.

Another explanation of her rather comical habitation is that it actually symbolised her lying in a coffin. The later lowering of the ceiling with me and the guide in a crouching and crawling situation might also be a hint. Furthermore I've read a few retrievals from graves by now, so it is possible. Rational and atheist / materialist people seem to cling to their dead bodies for a while, especially after a traumatic death. After all this could be a good explanation for the graveyard I passed (or entered?!) before I met her in her own dream-space in F22.

Enough thoughts on this. I decided to do the WB2B method more often from now on. It might get the ball rolling again for me regarding OBEs and retrievals in particular.

[Lumaza]

Enough thoughts on this. I decided to do the WB2B method more often from now on. It might get the ball rolling again for me regarding OBEs and retrievals in particular.

Sometimes a block is overcome by moving backwards to go forward. Going back to what used to work is just what is needed.

 In your experience, you began with a strong intent and even literally "demanded" a Retrieval to occur and for that this time you received your wish. Almost every Retrieval experience I have had has come through more of a spontaneous nature. There seemed to be a learning curve that I needed to go through.  After a while it was already known that it was my goal to be an "Invisible Helper" to those that not only needed it, but would accept it as well.

 In almost all of my Retrievals, there seemed to be some kind of "telepathic review" occurring. I was given an insight on the past experiences of the "Retrievee" that led to where they were now. That could be where the "gun" came in. It could have been a past lead into and pertinent to the scenario at hand.

  How did you feel when you awoke?

[Volgerle]

How did you feel when you awoke?

I felt content, satisfied. I felt that it kind of worked since the handover to the guide happened.

I was busy though with rewinding the experience in my mind to memorise as much as I could. Then as next step I got up to jot it all down.
Then back to bed for sleep because I was - of course - still very tired. So no time for 'celebrations' or revelling in emotions. (Maybe I'm meanwhile also too experienced for that, it has become a routine nevertheless, even though the gaps in-between when sth. happens have widened for me).

When I did the write-up the following day I noticed how important the internal 'rewind' and ensuing documentation in writing is because I first had an outline that was shorter, only when I looked at the notes I could add much more from the experience, things I would have forgotten by then. So disciplined journalling is really key.

[Volgerle]

Event:

A short one: I get lucid in the Void and express my wish to do a retrieval again. I somehow land in a garden area. There are several people and I first wonder. I address the nearest one to me who is a a gardener / garden worker (older, end of 50s or around 60) doing his job by cutting some bushes. 
He instantly complains that his employer is not good and pays badly. Somehow he seems to be a contractor employed with a temp agency.
I tell him I have experience with working for temp agencies (not a lie, I did so many years ago) and I know a better one with fair pay and treatment.
I say that luckily even now there is a guy around the corner who is actually a recruiter for this better company. Then the recruiter (I already assume it's the guide) somehow quickly 'joins' us and starts talking to the man. They seem to get along and are making inroads. They walk off and then turn around the corner of a house and I feel my job is done.

Comments:

It was so short because a handover is happening asap when the guide (recruiter in this case) is nearby and ready, which they always seem to be in these cases.  It's an advantage for projectors like me who have not too many time at their disposal due to the impending instant fade-out threat.
So, besides the train station where I can help children board trains (see above for another retrieval), this seems to be the most ideal situation for me since it works so swiftly.
PS: If he is still into gardening, I hope he can now do it in the Park in Focus 27.

[EscapeVelocity]

A cleanly-executed handover Volgerle!

When you appeared in the scene, did you have an instinctive 'knowing' that this person was your retrieval target?

This Retrieval caught my attention because it is unique and may afford a wider discussion of what appears to be happening. The "Retrievee", as it were, is in a very commonplace setting, performing a common work task. There is no indication of a violent or disruptive event that led to his passing...no war, no conflict, no traumatic incident, no indication of malevolence towards him...he may have suffered a heart attack while working or possibly died peacefully in his sleep.

This question has long bothered me from time to time- If I pass silently at night, in my sleep...how will I necessarily know that I have passed from this existence into the next? Might I just automatically take up my regular activities within my own personal astral space upon my normal schedule of awakening, not recognizing the difference between here and there? And of course, how many times does this transition occur for people while performing some normal activity such as cutting the bushes?

Following the Monroe idea of Belief System Territories, the simplest forms appear to be like this one described. They are personal belief system traps where a person is still so closely identified with their personal worldview and the energetic frequency that it aligns with to the point that their prior PR world fixation creates their current afterlife circumstance, and it plays out endlessly until certain factors may enter and interrupt it.

And it's not the personal BST purgatory of a suicide, addict or murderer...or the complexities of a consummate liar, schemer or narcissist...I have read about how those personal purgatories play out in the Bruce Moen books. This does speak to the idea of eternal damnation or a very long time. This is just an example, maybe, of a common death.

I need to ask this question more directly the next time I attend a Monroe Course- What is the distinctive quality that makes a still-extant human such a benefit in a Retrieval? My understanding is that our connection to both frequencies makes us recognizable to the Retrievee, whereas the higher frequency Guide is just out of their range and therefore renders them sufficiently invisible...that is where we come in.

The sad part is that the story of the 'gardener' may be a very common circumstance; It makes me think there are a lot of us humans hung out there in these little semi-purgatorial traps of our own misunderstanding of the Wider Reality. I get the impression that most will work their own way out, but we can sure speed the process up with retrievals. There is also the additional question of retrieving lost aspects of ourselves...that was one of the sessions at Monroe and a very powerful one for me...something to consider.

Great discussion material Volgerle!

 

[Volgerle]

A cleanly-executed handover Volgerle!

When you appeared in the scene, did you have an instinctive 'knowing' that this person was your retrieval target?

I don't think I knew. Although I was quite lucid then, in hindsight my memory of this is too blurry to know exactly how I chose him or even how I addressed him. I might have thought that all of these people in the garden were retrieval targets and just chose the one nearest to me. I might then have addressed him with sth like 'how's your work going?' or maybe a simple 'howdy-do' or 'do you need some help?' to get him talking. His instant complaint about his work was my instant 'hook' then. The only thing I also remember and did not yet mention is the short glance of the guide (who was a similarly aged man) at me when he already talked to the gardner signalling me a kind of 'I got this' before they vanished.
I admit I lost a bit of discipline in recent years with journalling and did not get up at night soon after I had this experience, but I also had some other experiences after that (not well remembered) and so I did not wake up back to body immediately. This might also have contributed to me not memorising it all well enough.

This Retrieval caught my attention because it is unique and may afford a wider discussion of what appears to be happening. The "Retrievee", as it were, is in a very commonplace setting, performing a common work task. There is no indication of a violent or disruptive event that led to his passing...no war, no conflict, no traumatic incident, no indication of malevolence towards him...he may have suffered a heart attack while working or possibly died peacefully in his sleep.

This question has long bothered me from time to time- If I pass silently at night, in my sleep...how will I necessarily know that I have passed from this existence into the next? Might I just automatically take up my regular activities within my own personal astral space upon my normal schedule of awakening, not recognizing the difference between here and there? And of course, how many times does this transition occur for people while performing some normal activity such as cutting the bushes?

Following the Monroe idea of Belief System Territories, the simplest forms appear to be like this one described. They are personal belief system traps where a person is still so closely identified with their personal worldview and the energetic frequency that it aligns with to the point that their prior PR world fixation creates their current afterlife circumstance, and it plays out endlessly until certain factors may enter and interrupt it.

And it's not the personal BST purgatory of a suicide, addict or murderer...or the complexities of a consummate liar, schemer or narcissist...I have read about how those personal purgatories play out in the Bruce Moen books. This does speak to the idea of eternal damnation or a very long time. This is just an example, maybe, of a common death.

I need to ask this question more directly the next time I attend a Monroe Course- What is the distinctive quality that makes a still-extant human such a benefit in a Retrieval? My understanding is that our connection to both frequencies makes us recognizable to the Retrievee, whereas the higher frequency Guide is just out of their range and therefore renders them sufficiently invisible...that is where we come in.

The sad part is that the story of the 'gardener' may be a very common circumstance; It makes me think there are a lot of us humans hung out there in these little semi-purgatorial traps of our own misunderstanding of the Wider Reality. I get the impression that most will work their own way out, but we can sure speed the process up with retrievals. There is also the additional question of retrieving lost aspects of ourselves...that was one of the sessions at Monroe and a very powerful one for me...something to consider.

Great discussion material Volgerle!

I think your hypothesis with this case about people dying in their sleep and then going on just as usual holds some merit. These cases seem quite common.

Thinking about this let me quote from some TMI (outreach, guest) trainers and known authors on OBE:

William Buhlman also hints to this 'semi-purgatorial trap' as you call it, when he talks about souls who just carry on with their lives after their (quiet) passing as if nothing has happened, mostly because they just don't know it, or if they do know or sense it they just think this is all they have and just 'continue' (mostly materialists maybe?). This nice quote is literally taken from his book (copied from the eBook):

"Most souls will accept the first environment they experience after their death; they know no better." - William Buhlman (Adventures in the Afterlife)

Of course, it makes sense to assume that this not only applies to the place where they lived (bedroom, house) and fell asleep for good but any belief system territory they might end up in. They just 'stick' with it and carry on.

Trainer Luigi Sciambarella in one of his YouTube interviews (found it after some search: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTQGm4s7YXI ) also hints at the occurrence of especially old people in need of being retrieved from their day-to-day situations because many just died in their sleep. He even recommends this as one of the easiest retrieval types since (quote) 'they only wait to be picked up'. Maybe that is why I am given this opportunity with older people as a beginner. Could be an easier task.

Trainer Oliver Tappe mentions a good example of this kind of retrieval in his book about his TMI experiences "(IN)VISIBLE: Out of Body Experiences and Explorations into the Afterlife":
One retrieval is of an elderly lady he encounters while she's just standing in her kitchen preparing dinner while she awaits her husband coming home from work (but he never comes). Oliver feels she actually might have been there 'for long' since she also looks a bit 'vintage', and iirc he even mentions that it feels like the 1970s or 1950s or so. Then somehow Oliver as a guest (she does not question his appearance though and talks to him) makes her aware of her husband arriving (not sure if at the time still alive or already deceased) who of course is just the guide in disguise and she joins him then and they walk up a stairway in the house leading into the light.

Btw (and as a short excursion), I really recommend Oliver's book about his training and work with the TMI, which is similar to Paul Elder's book 'Eyes of an Angel' that is also a great account about the TMI seminars. Moreover, Elder gives some more retrieval event reports that are very detailed. A fantastic read. (I saved all of these accounts as quotes for my future book on retrievals ... well, ... should it ever see the light of day, LOL). Needless to say I also recommend all of Buhlman's books anyway, of course he is known well round here already.

All of them are also featured and listed on the TMI website somehow:

https://www.monroeinstitute.org/pages/trainer-luigi-sciambarella
https://www.monroeinstitute.org/pages/trainer-oliver-tappe
https://www.monroeinstitute.org/pages/trainer-paul-elder
https://www.monroeinstitute.org/search?page=1&q=Buhlman

[Lumaza]

 Thank you for sharing that great experience Volgerle!    I agree with everything that you and EV have said here.

 Some Retrieval experiences can be simple, menial and even sometimes vague to us, but to those that we are aiding, it is changing their entire reality! Every Retrieval is important. Though, the challenging ones are usually the ones that have a profound effect on us as well.

 As for the comments above on what happens when we pass in our sleep. I believe we "officially" wake up on the other side. If we need time to "acclimate" to our new existence, it is provided, and a "Retriever" will appear when necessary.

 For a few months before my Wife, Mary Jo, transitioned, she slept quite a bit. Not only did the wonderful Hospice Nurses that kept Mary Jo comfortable tell me that she was "acclimating" herself to the other side, but it was written in a Guidebook that they gave me when Mary Jo started the Hospice part of her journey. I loved the fact that they were sharing that book with the Caregivers and any other family member that wished to read it. I read the whole thing. I was the only one though. I offered it to other family members to read, but they refused it.

 Mary Jo's sister passed away a few weeks ago, at home, in her sleep. I asked if I could help but was told that I was too close to the situation. A few years back she called me with a cold and said she was going to see her Doctor. After a few weeks with shock, she called me and told me it was stage 4 Lung Cancer and that it had already metastasized. She did radiation and chemo, but neither worked. Her last attempt to stay alive was being a test subject to a Chemo like pill. After a year, we found it didn't work either. She did not suffer extreme pain like Mary Jo did, which I was ever so grateful for. A few weeks ago, I heard she started taking some Tylenol for a bit of back pain. She went to sleep one night and never gained consciousness, physically that is. We waited for her condition to change and her to wake up. After a few days, she was gone. She had only been on Hospice for about a month.

[Volgerle]

As for the comments above on what happens when we pass in our sleep. I believe we "officially" wake up on the other side. If we need time to "acclimate" to our new existence, it is provided, and a "Retriever" will appear when necessary.

Yes, I also think that most 'wake up' 'somewhere' they are being cared for. E.g if it is a hospital or elderly/hospice home they might also wake up in a 'different' hospital situation where doctors and nurses care for them. I think I have read about this too somewhere.

Thank you for the personal stories you shared.

Last October my father also passed in his sleep at home.

He had been in Home Care in a nursing bed with a Homecare service visiting us every day twice for 3 years. It wasn't easy in the end. Before he passed he had been in the local hospital for over a month and there in the end also been transferred from a 'normal' station to a Palliative Care station (more or less a hospital's hospice department) since the treatment had been 'through' and given up and he did not want any anymore, telling the treating physician it was his time go.

However, when he came back he was doing okay actually which gave me some (false) hope. But then suddenly he stopped eating and drinking after a week. Forcing it upon him (by me or the nurses) did not work anymore, he just refused. They call it "Sterbefasten" in Germany which would mean 'Death Fasting' as a direct translation into English but I think it is not used as such in your language meaning 'hunger strike' which is NOT the same thing - some old dying people just CANNOT drink/eat any longer since there is no hunger or thirst (often kidney failures are involved) and they even get sick when they are 'forced' to drink/eat and spit it all out.

https://www.dict.cc/?s=Sterbefasten

I still tried to help (not accepting the obvious as I should have...) and on his last day on the 22nd October the visiting family doctor prescribed a intravenous infusion bag to get fluids which was installed by the nurses at home. But of course it was too late and did no help. He died in his sleep in the night to the 23rd October. The nurse who visited us in the morning found him this way and informed me then at 7 a.m. in the morning.

He looked peaceful, like s.o. sleeping with closed eyes, one arm strangely lifted as to wave good-bye to us (the bed's headboard was always lifted up so this is why this was possible) - this is a great solace for me. The view is burned into my visual memory now. But it is an okay view for me.

Of course I know it was his time to go, he had reached his 94th birthday in September while still in the hospital on a day when he suffered a lot of pain - alhtough most of the time in his last days he was suffering.

He actually wanted to 'leave' all the time (for all the 3 years of his bedridden care dependency). He did not tell it to me or my Mum but to the doctors in the hospitals who then told me (he had a lot of hospital stays during these 3 years). I learnt this is how it often happens, they don't want to alarm the living loved ones around them but they often tell the doctors about it. He told them he waited with anticipation to join his family (parents and 5-6 siblings) on the other side and was kind of looking forward to that. So he had made his peace with his situation.

Just like in your experiences, he also sleeped a lot all the time and when awake was sometimes 'not here' - so I guess he also got accustomed to the other side this way.

I am happy that he died in his sleep. It is the best way to go. I hope it will also be 'my way' when my time has come.

[Yesmar00]

How can I initiate retrieval work?

I have been projecting for a few years and recently I've been developing a phasing adjacent technique which isn't really new and is very open ended. It's mostly bilocation related which has been interesting to learn but again very open ended so it's been a process. I feel that I'm very close to using this for consistent projections. I've recently learned that a medication I'm taking is making evening projections very challenging because of my sleep cycle so this has been really fun to learn. 

I feel that I'm starting to move in a new direction as I advance in my development overall especially these last few months. Something that's been on my heart for a while now is doing retrieval work. There are a few dreams I've had that I believe to be introductions (one of which involved a child from the 1800s).

I think that emotionally I'm ready to help in any way I can. How did you guys start this work? I don't even know where to begin except asking for help from guides or other light beings.

[Lumaza]

How can I initiate retrieval work?

My name in the past here was "Lionheart" on this Forum. I was the one that started this thread years ago here. Reading this entire thread from the beginning will show you that there has been a progression of sorts that led to Retrievals. There is always the possibility as well that I was a "Retriever" before I came here to this physical existence and for about the last ten years, I have been remembering that! Hmm, makes you think, lol!

I think that emotionally I'm ready to help in any way I can. How did you guys start this work? I don't even know where to begin except asking for help from guides or other light beings.

You are saying the right things. That alone will be heard by the "structure" that we find in the other realms. A strong focused will and intent will lead to the success you wish. Living that way in the physical realm here gets noticed as well! 

[Lumaza]

 Vogerle, my friend, it is now my turn to thank you for sharing your story and also giving you my condolences for your loss!

 Years ago, when Mary Jo was first diagnosed, I did everything in my power to heal her. So much so that I found myself unable to consciously shift for a few months. I was told that I couldn't help her, but I was stubborn and fought that. Yet she was still disappointed in me. She said, "you can help everyone else, but why can't you help me"! It was incredibly tough to watch her going through what she did and not being about to do anything about it. I even attempted to will her disease into myself, to take it away from her.

 After the 2 month "ban" that I received, I gave in. I was told point blank that "I was not the Author of this book". She was. So, along the journey I excepted whatever was going to occur and if that meant her transitioning, I was going to be at her side to all way to the end. She finally excepted her Cancer diagnosis that she got 8 years ago, 4 days before she passed. She kind of yelled out "Okay I had enough". That is when she became unresponsive/Coma like. 

 The night she passed we were hand and hand. It was exactly 5am when I was stirred awake by someone walking up and down the hall in back of the chair I was sitting in. I looked at her and said "go be an Angel"! Ten minutes later she transitioned. I was so incredibly honored and thankful that she said "goodbye" in the only way she could, and a way that I would be receptive to, before she left.

 I will tell you one thing though, because of my views and what I do in the non-physical realms, I had some great conversations with the "Angelic" Hospice Nurses that came over on what people experience at the end and things that they witness all the time. I say "Angelic" because they were beautiful souls. To do what they do on a daily basis, you need to have a good soul"! Mary Jo's Palliative Care Doctor is included in that too. The Nurses and her Doctor came to Mary Jo's Celebration of Life too. We all developed a great bond! 

[EscapeVelocity]

Volgerle, let me add my condolences to your loss and thank you for the wonderful sharing of the experience of those years; many of us have and will necessarily undergo similar difficult times as we assist family and friends through these transitions.

The Trainers at Monroe you mentioned- They all seem to excel in their specific teaching methods: Sciambarella, I have only seen one video on, but he was quite impressive. Tappe is a new name for me and i look forward to reading his book. Paul Elder, I have personal experience with, having done two Monroe courses with him...a wonderful and excellent person, his book is highly recommended.

My best thoughts for you, V

EV

[EscapeVelocity]

YesmarOO,

Initiating retrieval work may take some time and further work, or you may be already prepared for it. Like Lumaza wrote, it is a decision made by intelligences on the Other Side, the Non-Physical (NP). It does involve how much preparatory work you have done in balancing and controlling your emotions both here in the Physical and in the Non-Physical. It is a form of emotional maturity and mental discipline.

Like Lumaza mentioned, his very excellent thread Souly for Retrievals is a good place to start, reading through the whole thing. Many clues and insights are to be found here.

Beyond reading about others' experiences is also the kindness, patience and discipline you display in your daily life and recognizing how that reflects within your Non-Physical existence, your dreams and astral activities.

Given that fairly simple framework, it is simply a matter of making your request known 'to be of Service to the Multiverse and the Greater Good of Humanity and Existence'...or words to that effect.

Make yourself available, ask to become an Invisible Helper, ask to become involved in the Retrieval Process...make these declarations in the form of a nightly prayer or affirmation. Do it every night and during daytime moments of reflection; if you are truly serious, do it for as long as it takes to get a response.

It is really that simple and straightforward. But it does require commitment.

 

[Volgerle]

How can I initiate retrieval work?

I have been projecting for a few years and recently I've been developing a phasing adjacent technique which isn't really new and is very open ended. It's mostly bilocation related which has been interesting to learn but again very open ended so it's been a process. I feel that I'm very close to using this for consistent projections. I've recently learned that a medication I'm taking is making evening projections very challenging because of my sleep cycle so this has been really fun to learn. 

I feel that I'm starting to move in a new direction as I advance in my development overall especially these last few months. Something that's been on my heart for a while now is doing retrieval work. There are a few dreams I've had that I believe to be introductions (one of which involved a child from the 1800s).

I think that emotionally I'm ready to help in any way I can. How did you guys start this work? I don't even know where to begin except asking for help from guides or other light beings.

EscapeVelocity and Lumaza have already given great answers and I have not much to add to it and would only repeat most of it.

Maybe one thing I could add although only as  a sidenote: When you have put out your earnest request look out for a response or 'signs' in any way. They will come, maybe only after a while. They can come in dreams and in the physical. I had quite a few of these signs in dreams and 'waking life' telling me that I was 'enrolled' in the program to learn/do/help retrieve.

[Yesmar00]

Thank you everyone for your kind words! Being on this forum has been necessary guidance for me and I greatly appreciate it. I can be stubborn and I have really been learning to listen to my intuition which led me here.


I have been asking here and there but nothing major or consistent. I've mostly been asking to be prepared for the work. I've been going through a very powerful growing process in the last few months being prepared for something. I believe one of those things is this kind of work. It's been on my heart for a while and I need to listen to that.

I have had dreams and woke up thinking "I wonder if this was a training session or a rescue?"

A few months ago I had a dream where I was with this little child. He was probably around 8-9 and I don't remember where I was or how we connected but I do remember having certain feelings about what to do with this situation. I don't think I've ever been to a place like this in my dreams at least I don't remember. My journal has never included a location of this type.

I asked him what year it was and he said 1800 something. I remember feeling a lot of compassion for him and I showed him some of our cool technology. I told him that the year was 2025. I showed him some smart phones, TVs and more. It became a fun "show and tell". He seemed happy but I don't remember how it ended. Although this was a dream I really feel like this was an intro class in a way.

I will make requests every night and take this seriously. I don't know why it's be on my heart so much but I feel that this is something I need to do for my growth and to help others. When I was a Christian I used to do bible studies with people so that they could be "saved" and I really like that type of work. I was never one to judge and I just wanted people to be happy and experience forgiveness. At one point in time I wanted to be a doctor but I chose this path instead and I think there is a reason for that. I'm a bit nervous but I'm also very excited to see where this goes. I'll post updates and again thanks to everyone for commenting. You're all very helpful souls and I enjoy your discourse.

[Lumaza]

 Yesmar, it sounds like you are "ripe for the picking". If I had a choice in the decision I would indeed say "welcome aboard"!   

 Like can be read in this entire thread, there are number of instances wherein whoever is sharing their story or posting here speaks about a "progression" of sorts. That kind of progression is necessary though it can be slow at times. there are some things you need to handle first and learn first.
#1, amongst the most important is to handles any fears you may have of the NPRs. Not everything you see there will be "rainbows and unicorns". There are some souls there that are incredibly deep in their torments.
 
#2, for Retrievals that is, is to learn to control your own emotions and not to just act on instinct. Give the scenario a chance to reveal itself first. For myself, in the beginning of my Retrieval experiences, I would act right away and many times be in the dark about what to do.  Once I slowed down and passively observed the soul that wished to move on, I was shown a "review" of sorts on the soul that was to be retrieved. That was incredibly helpful in showing me a direction I should take to accomplish the duty at hand.
 
#3 Allow the teachers to teach.

 As you get deeper in you will find there is always something new to learn there. It is a school just as this physical realm here is!

 There was a member here years ago named "Ginny" that was quite proficient with Retrievals. Her posts were great. I learned a lot from reading her threads and also a good amount by listening to seminars by Bruce Moen. I have to give Kurt Leland a lot of credit as well. He introduced me to a phenomenal lady from the early 1900's named "Annie Besant". You can find some of Kurt's talks on YouTube. Annie Besant explains the concept of an "Invisible Helper" in great detail, all the way down to the personality traits of those who wish to be or are already one.

 My goal when I learned the Art of non-physical exploration was to do something good with what I learned. My first retrieval experience was a shock to me. I had used a direct technique to shift and was conscious during the entire session. I think it was a test of sorts. It was so extreme. I barely had time to think. Impulse kicked in though. After the fact, I learned it was a retrieval.

 Here is Kurt's seminar on Annie Besant. I have listened to it almost 10 times now and each time, I learn something new from it. It is that good!
 

[Lumaza]

[Yesmar00]

Thank you for this. I was wondering why her name sounded familiar and its because I have her book on thought forms and occult chemistry. I'll definitely give that talk a listen. I enjoy her and leadbeaters books.

I really appreciate the instruction and guidance. I have started reading ginnys posts too and I really enjoy them. Thanks again for the help! I am nervous I won't lie to you but when I question myself and ask if I'm ready, I get a very strong "yes" so I'll trust it and move forward. I think my helpers know the type of instruction that I need so I'm looking forward to it.

[Yesmar00]

Hello everyone I had a strange dream this morning and I am wondering if it was a retreival. The vibe of the dream doesn't fit the trends of my typical dreams so I'm not sure how to categorize it.

I woke up early this morning an hour before work and decided to get more sleep. I appeared in an elevator. This was clearly a dream although it was a decently vivid one. I was waiting on the doors to close when I see this baby (young toddler sized) walk up to the elevator and slip into the gap between the floor and the elevator. He didn't fall all the way through but only halfway. I was curious so I picked him up and took him to his mom who was sitting down in the back right corner of the waiting room for the elevator. She had a black baby stroller next to her. I didn't get any emotions impressions from her which was odd.

The scene reset? This is hard to describe because it felt like the whole scene just started over again which doesn't happen much in my dreams although its not completely uncommon. The way it happened was definitely strange.

I'm in the elevator again and see the little boy slip through the cracks but this time he fell all the way to the bottom. I perceived that we were on the first floor or something like that. I went into the elevator and pressed the button to go to the second floor then hopped out. That was my first thought and the doors closed, the elevator went up and I managed to squeeze in and save the baby from getting crushed by the mechanism. When I picked him up, I noticed that he became a lot younger which was strange but this was a dream so I wasn't shocked.

I handed him to his mom who was just sitting there almost like she was frozen. She had the same reaction in the first scene. I handed her the baby and made a lighthearted comment about how stressful it must be to be a mom. She briefly smiled but I felt a strange emotional distance/disconnection this time around.

That's pretty much it. This could have definitely been a normal dream but I thought it would be good to share with you guys to see what you think.

[Volgerle]

That's pretty much it. This could have definitely been a normal dream but I thought it would be good to share with you guys to see what you think.

Dreams that contain challenges can be set up by guides as training scenarios.  This could have been one. You clearly acted as a helper and even lifesaver for the kid.
So yes, this 'smells' already like retrieval work (preparation / training).