"New" planet approaching?

[zareste]

quote:Originally posted by Zebrima

But does size really matter? After a couple of days "calming down" and getting over my first disappointment, I  have to say no.

Aha! So there you are.

Yeah, that's the way I think of it. Thus far it's fit the description you gave, and while there are a couple people trying to say 'uh, that's not it cause it's made of ice and it's small', the gist of this is the old 'it doesn't look exactly as my imagination thought so it's not real' mindset. Ah, but that's pointless to bring up.

quote:Nibiru should be larger, Nibiru should be closer.

Probably. Maybe this originated from the real thing? Cause if it were a chunk that was knocked off of the original, that would explain its whacked-out orbit. Just a theory. It'd be great if they found something better than this.

What I'm curious about is who the other people are who have seen similar things. Do any of them have websites by any chance?

[no_leaf_clover]

Zareste, I don't know whether or not you know yet, but the bulk of information regarding Nibiru is based on Zecharia Sitchin's series of books, which are backed up by information that was written by the Sumerians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Persians, etc., all the way up to the times of the Greeks. The word 'Nibiru' itself is a Sumerian 'word', meaning roughly "Planet of Crossing". It was regarded by the ancients as a most sacred and special celestial body, and one that only appeared in the skies about every 3600 years. Note that it appeared in the skies (The Sumerians did not have telescopes, so there is no way they could have seen this new ice ball, though they did have information on the 12 major bodies of the Solar System from Earth's perspective: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and Earth itself. They went into detail about each. As an example, they noted Pluto as a planet that was originally a moon of Saturn, only pulled away by the gravity from a close encounter with Nibiru on one of its earlier entries into our system. This idea is not far from many theories held by astronomers today.).

The planet was recorded to have been extremely hot and fiery upon its earlier entries into our system (as from the Sumerian equivalent to the Epic of Creation, the Enuma Elish. The Bible's creational story derives much from this earlier work.). A ball of ice would obviously not be able to last that long if it were flaming, and then of course there's the problem of it being so hot in the first place, and then even more of a problem in how it would make it to the site of the present-day asteroid belt.)

The reasons behind thinking Nibiru will be bigger are thus: Nibiru is to have a great gravitational effect upon the Earth. The Great Flood from the Bible was, as the Sumerians report (and the Biblical version does trace back to the Sumerian Epic of the Flood) was caused by Nibiru pulling around during a colder time in Earth's history. Huge sheets of ice were pulled from the antarctic, and created massive tsunamis that reached Mesopotamia and destroyed civilization there. Similarly, and maybe not coincidentally, the Zeta were channeled here to say that most everything in India is going to be destroyed over the course of the Pole Shift. The newly discovered body could never do this. It would never have much more of an effect on the Earth as it does now, which, to say the least, isn't much.

The reasons behind saying that Nibiru should be closer are that Nibiru is supposedly pretty close, relatively, at this very moment, and getting closer and closer by the day. The following link will give you a more or less accurate idea of the orbit of Nibiru: http://users.lycaeum.org/~martins/nibiru.html

For sites, you can try the following:

http://www.sitchin.com/
http://xfacts.com/
http://www.apollonius.net/nibiru.html <-- Good introduction to Sitchin's work.

[FreeFaller]

WOW THATS SO AMAZING THEY JUST DISCOVERED A TENTH PLANET ITS HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS

[sain]

a tenth planet?? that's a little weird... how do they know it isn't just an oversized chunk of rock that will dissappear soon?

[zareste]

Heh, I guess that's what they're debating right now: What qualifies as a chunk of rock and what gets to be a planet, cause Earth in the same sense is also a chunk of rock.

Oh and they're pretty certain it won't disappear soon because they seem to have mapped its orbit. By the looks of it, it'll be around for a few thousand years before leaving the general area (then coming back a few millenniums later).

[Targa]

quote:Well, to this day we can't rebuild the Pyramids, but according to Sitchin the Annunaki built the Pyramids.

This is opinion and conjecture, not proof.  According to Edgar Cayce, a clairvoyant for 40 years, and able to access the Akashic Records, the pyramids were built by Egyptians with the aid of those Atlanteans that fled the destruction of Atlantis.  He also stated (when asked how it was possible to consctruct the pyramids) that "The same force that causes iron to swim can be used to make stone levitate".  Stone levitation has been observed in tibet.  There is a very good description of how this is accomplished (somewhere on the web...I did a Google search I think).  The tibetan monks stood around the stone in a semi-circle at a specific distance from the stone, and played various instruments to cause harmonic resonance vibrations (or some such).

The problem with the Mayan calandar is that none of its creators are here to tell you why it ends in 2012.  It's entirely possible that they did this simply as a "space-saver".  We typically make our calendars with 12 months, though some go to the next January.  If we were to create a larger calendar it would be bulky, expensive, and time-consuming.  IMO, this is just another "fishhook" that "end of the world"-type people use in their theories.  It can just as easily be stated that the next time Halley's Comet passes the earth we will have a great spiritual revolution. *shrug*

Also keep in mind that the future is never certain.  Free will always changes the course of human evolution.  This is why clairvoyance is often inaccurate.  I read something several days ago where a person supposedly contacted the spirit of Edgar Cayce and it told him, "The world template has been altered" (whatever that means).  I do believe that we, as spiritual entities, need to learn to LOVE, or hopes for the future are pretty bleak.

Anyways....just wanted to point out that just because someone writes something, or translates something, or believes something, doesn't make it the "unmitigated truth".  Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want to believe.  Personally, I don't concern myself with "deadlines" and "predictions", but rather just live my life day-to-day as best I can.

[no_leaf_clover]

quote:Anyways....just wanted to point out that just because someone writes something, or translates something, or believes something, doesn't make it the "unmitigated truth". Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want to believe.

The same can be said about just about anything or anyone, including the guy you mentioned that visited the Akashic Records. I know of people who have also visited the Akashic Records but have gathered different information on who built the Pyramids. At least Sitchin's information is more based on physical evidence, but I don't really have the energy to keep defending Sitchin's work. I'll just say here (though it doesn't necessarily have to do with this post anymore) that anybody with anything against it can just go read some of it and come to your own conclusions rather than taking peoples' words on it and arguing from that. From there you can try to counter his information, I guess, but so far there have been very few in the world to even try, and that's pretty interesting considering he's sold millions of books and has become quite a recognized figure in this sort of field of information that has so many critics.

However, I don't really believe the future is set for certain either. At the same time, I can't reasonably expect everyone in the world to stop fighting and to learn to understand each other in about 15 or 20 years. That's where my personal beliefs come in sounding as though the future isn't set.

[IronWire]

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I've had alot of OBE's where i've been shown solar systems. Really neat stuff. I've seen saturn also come really close to earth in a dream, and i've seen the moon come really close to the earth twice irl.

[zareste]

Hmm, I had a recollection a while back that involved God (or Gaia or whatever name you prefer for the given being) first looking over the solar system.  The accuracy of this recollection was unusually detailed; planets were the correct distance apart, given their size, as I found out later, and the being, which outsized them by quite a few times...  It had sort of a human form to it and that's all I can remember about it).

Oh, and when I say 'recollection', it tends to mean an approximation of outside reality, sort of like a vision but a lot more accurate because of a theoretical system of 'proximal thought' I conceived of a long time ago.. I won't bother you with the details.

But when I look back into the recollection, Earth was just sort of a lifeless rock, kinda like our Moon really, and, even stranger, Mars looked like it was capable of sustaining life. It had water here and there, but the details of Mars and Earth were hard to recall (I didn't even notice a difference until later when I looked back into the vision; they sort of paled in comparison to the gigantic being between them).

So Earth was just a big dead object and Mars had something going on it; very unusual in retrospect (though from my point of view they looked incredibly small).  I'm taking a shot in the dark here but this being seemed to act as sort of a soul migrator.  A friend of mine mentioned something about life on Earth stemming from that of Mars, and he's a friend who really knows his stuff so I hope I heard him correctly, but this being seemed to have been made up a whole lot of other beings, just judging by his size and capacity of thought. My guess is that this being was made up of combined souls from Mars and used for making Earth livable. I have a few reasonable hunches this was made possible by some sort of technology they had come up with, but of course, the whole migration theory itself doesn't have much backing it up. I could be wrong about the entire thing.

Heh, and the funny part is I was writing about it on a webpage a while back, trying to get the details out, and I was listening to that song called 'Hellbound' by Kenna, all the while trying to recall where, in the Solar System the being was situated, and suddenly the lyrics "Between Pluuuutoooo and God" came up. It didn't help any but I was still like 'wtf'.

[IronWire]

quote:Originally posted by zareste
Heh, and the funny part is I was writing about it on a webpage a while back, trying to get the details out, and I was listening to that song called 'Hellbound' by Kenna, all the while trying to recall where, in the Solar System the being was situated, and suddenly the lyrics "Between Pluuuutoooo and God" came up. It didn't help any but I was still like 'wtf'.

LOL still pretty funny tho.

[Zebrima]

Hi,

I just wanted to share a very vivid experience I had recently. I´m not sure if it was an obe or a lucid dream, but it fascinated me.
I was sleeping at my parents' house, in my old room, where I had my first obe and have had most of my obe-experiences and lucid dreams. I was travelling through space and approached a big, dark red planet. A beautiful woman approached me, she had long, wavy chestnut hair and was dressed in brown or beige colors. Her charisma was really intense although she was all about the same color – light brown /chestnut. Her eyes was the most fascinating part about her, dark green and big. Her pupil was big and she could control it herself, making it expand or smaller if she wanted to.

However, I was being told that this planet was in our solar system and that it was soon to be discovered. It was approaching us and this was the "tenth planet". I was being told that this planet has been close to earth before and every time this meant major changes, but that we don´t have to be afraid. She also mentioned that this is the big transition that the Maya-people were predicting and that this time the return of the planet will affect us even more than in the past. She also said that the planet has an orbit that makes it return about every 2000 years, and that the earth changes and return of special comets predicts it. Many of us are already sensing this approach, and therefore making changes in our lives and growing rapidly spiritually in the past decades and years. We are all, somehow, preparing for the return and the reunion.

I did some research on the Internet and found some information about this tenth planet, which fascinated me. I knew before that there has been speculations about this planet, but I haven't really thought much about it before. I just wanted to share this experience with you guys...I'm not saying it's true or anything, but it was really a special experience for me. I would also like to know if anyone of you have had similar experiences lately? She told me a lot of people have.

Love and light,
Zebrima

[zareste]

Pardon the revival of an ancient thread.  Did anything worth noting happen when Nibiru passed by?  I've seen a lot of supposed photos, but other than that it's another case of outsiders saying "we're gonna change everything on Earth" just to get attention.

[Nostic]

Listening to an interview with Jason Martell on Coast to Coast AM, he is saying that Sitchin says that the earliest we should expect to come into close contact with this 10th planet, Nibiru, would be 2085.
The interview can be found at http://xfacts.com/x.htm and Martell actually says it at about the 78 min mark.
At this point, I do believe that there is indeed a 10th planet somewhere out there. I'm just very unclear as to when it can be expected and what effects it will have on the earth.