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I don't buy any of this. Everything suggests individuality is an illusion, it's logically impossible to make sense of consciousness being a tangible unique something we possess.


When you die you don't stop existing because you never objectively existed in the first place. Think of a wave: it's not made of atoms, when you see a wave in a lake the water is not moving forward, it just moves up and down, the wave a vibration that is passed on from particle to particle. Is it a big fuss when one wave dies out? Waves are simply part of the continuously-changing lake, waves are constantly appearing, separating into others, and dying out.

Likewise, throughout life we're constantly exchanging matter and information with the exterior: we learn, we change and we age. We're completely different both physically and mentally from what we were 10 or 20 years ago. We are as dead as we'll ever be.

When we die, it's simply another change. Others we'll take our place, life goes on. Just like every cell in your body is part of you, every animal, rock or star is part of the Universe.

Even yet, death is not as sudden end as we make it to be, (again, like a wave) it's gradual. A person's brain and body may forever stop working in mere minutes, but other things take longer (more often than not a whole lot longer) than that to die out: the DNA left in his children, all the art, knowledge and culture he produced, the influence he had on others through out his life, etc etc.

I was looking for a place to see if I could find any insight on a dominating issue of mine.

Essentially I will soon be preparing for the up coming events in 2012 though I probably shouldn't say too much.

The events them self are going to be quite extraordinary. On December 23 2012 a barrier, erected approximately 50,000 years ago, will come down this day. Which will allow for this fabled spiritual awakening. This barrier separates us from our connection to the spiritual world by suppressing any attempt of utilize the energies of of higher planes.

Oh the excitement of what will come. I can guarantee that what will come will be quite interesting.

Just don't kill yourself when 2012 comes and nothing happens.

[The first plane]

Just to nitpick the beginning of the OP:

1) New York City has 11 letters
2) Afghanistan has 11 letters.
3) Ramsin Yuseb has 11 letters . (The terrorist who
threatened to destroy the Twin Towers in 1993)
4) George W Bush has 11 letters.

1) It's also called "The City of New York", 16 letters.
3) Do you mean Ramzi Yousef? His actual name is Ramzi Ahmed Yousef or Ramzi Mohammed Yousef, 16 or 19 letters.
4) His name is George Walker Bush though, the W doesn't stand for W. 16 letters.


And also...

2) The first plane crashing against the Twin Towers
was flight number 11.

Open Microsoft Word and do the following:
1. Type in capitals Q33 NY. This is the flight number
of the first plane to hit one of the Twin Towers.
2. Highlight the Q33 NY.
3. Change the font size to 48.
4. Change the actual font to the WINGDINGS 1
What do you think now?!!

lulz

THIS IS WHAT CONVINCED ME TO SEND THIS AROUND!

Then you're very very easy.

Yawn. I patronized a scientist. Yeah, so?

I am not going to do a damn thing about the heliosphere, because.... guess what, I cant! Happy?

It's quite obvious you don't know what's behind the phenomenon. Yet you so readily stepped on your high horse and patronized those that try to understand it.

Why don't you contribute something constructive and positive to this thread, then YOU would be doing something.

I am contributing. Pointing out the silly anti-science stance that is seen too much around the internet these days, specially among new age north americans.

This however raises two important questions, one already asked by Stookie: where can we find this information, the sources? Which leads us to the other question, why isn't this proof of the existence of intelligent alien life widely known?

[nothing]

Uhm... okay... you can relax a bit there fella, I was not being patronizing. Okay maybe a little... towards a certain scientist with an attitude of knowing everything.

What am I doing about it? What? What kind of dumb butt, inane question is that?

Scientists are trying to figure out what's behind a potential threat. Even though you're doing nothing to reach the answer, you patronizingly accuse them of not being able to find it, that's what a dumb statement is.

[you]

... and the smart people don't know why off course.

I detect a patronizing tone here.

It is not any scientist's obligation to know right off the bat the cause of a newly discovered phenomenon, it's their job to research until there's enough data to take conclusions.


What are you doing about it? Nothing.

[World]

So, why would a 'New World Order' only leave behind symbols and clues in the USA?



Americans and their silly conspiracies.

[Simply because scientists have said that it might happen within the next millennium appears to be proof enough that it will happen in four years time. Alas, although this theory has some scientific backing, there is no way that anyone can predict when geomagnetic reversal might happen to the nearest day or to the nearest million years...]

Simply because scientists have said that it might happen within the next millennium appears to be proof enough that it will happen in four years time. Alas, although this theory has some scientific backing, there is no way that anyone can predict when geomagnetic reversal might happen to the nearest day or to the nearest million years...

It's nice that new agers always try to find new ways to make it seem like their crazy beliefs have scientific basis. But they always fail.

Sitchin isn't exactly the best source to take conclusions about the existence of aliens. 'Annunaki' and 'Nibiru' are just a myth.

I misread then.

I only managed to find 2 sites, one of them is in german.

So I'd doubt the pictures are even real. If they happen to be, there's still the matter of proving Bassou came about through cross-breeding, as far as we know it's impossible for an ape and a human to produce offspring.

Alan, a picture like that hardly qualifies as evidence.

Lol, unfrozen caveman lawyer.

If you can't find any evidence for this than it most likely is a hoax indeed.

Can you provide some sort of source for this story?

The only information I could find about this supposed 'ape-man' was a site which the OP seemed to be copied from. (http://www.faem.com/natvan/bassou.htm)

You would think if such a thing was true information and evidence for it would be all over the internet. It's most likely just a silly hoax.

I think one of the canidates for the election is the beast, I can't tell which one though.
i've already seen the so called dooms day, and it isn't pretty, it's quite horrible.

Ha! Has to be McCain!

He doesn't fool me with that homo-erotic blinking. Watch out for the beast and his army of republican bigots!

So, any news on what 'special date' is going to replace the October 14th craze?

I want to buy books about it and and start making dramatic youtube videos as soon as possible.

tl;dr

Once again I think it's relevant to mention the following website: http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/.

My aunt practices reiki. I believe it's a nice way to steal money from the naive, good quality bovine excrement really.

What if? Nothing happening is right now the most likely scenario.

When 2012 passes by, some new agers will start coming up with new dates while others will be claiming 2012 was indeed special in some subtle way.

I bet nothing will happen. Dont wast ur time.

Ha! Look who's still around.

when i saw this i was overwhealmed  or something I have always known but people called me and my brother crazy, lol, I would say, so whos crazy now huh?

Apparently you. You can't decide to believe wild and baseless predictions just because they're comfortable.

Even if said predictions turned out to be true, you would still be crazy for having believed in them before without a logical reason.

Beliefs aren't a choice, they're a reflection of your ability to reason.

See, there's a perfectly logical explanation. And if it's not on Oct. 14, it's possible that Oct. 14 is really the name of the craft. It's not her fault she doesn't properly understand what they mean by "Alabama".

Well, duh. New age folk always has a way out from a prediction full of fail.

I predict every year people will predict it will be the year when aliens will appear on October 14th. Then one year when aliens actually do visit us it will mean the prophecy was true. It doesn't matter the day they come either, if they don't appear on a October 14th it just means that was actually the ship captain's birthday.

The prophecy is true!

Of all the places in the world to be seen, why Alabama? That would probably be on my list right over Antarctica.

She had to include some place from the US, but she should have first checked what the southern hemisphere is.

I really can't wait... to see what excuses the new agers are going to come up with when nothing happens.

By the way, the note at the end is very funny. x)


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Just thought about this, you know what's gonna be really funny? After the date, a lot of people will claim having seen UFO's, others being abducted, etc. Books will be written and money will be made.